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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:47 PM
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Damn you, Joan Baez!!!
From Operation cewasefire:

Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the flowers gone?
Girls have picked them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the young girls gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the young girls gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the young girls gone?
Taken husbands every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the young men gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the young men gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the young men gone?
Gone for soldiers every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the soldiers gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the soldiers gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the soldiers gone?
Gone to graveyards every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the graveyards gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the graveyards gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the graveyards gone?
Covered with flowers every one
When will we ever learn?
When will we ever learn?







I am beginning to wonder if we ever will.

You fucked me up, Joan. Made me cry again.

Love ya' and thanks.

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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:50 PM
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1. And then she does Joe Hill....
I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night,
alive as you and me.
Says I "But Joe, you're ten years dead"
"I never died" said he,
"I never died" said he.
"The Copper Bosses killed you Joe,
they shot you Joe" says I.
"Takes more than guns to kill a man"
Says Joe "I didn't die"
Says Joe "I didn't die"
And standing there as big as life
and smiling with his eyes.
Says Joe "What they can never kill
went on to organize,
went on to organize"
From San Diego up to Maine,
in every mine and mill,
where working-men defend there rights,
it's there you find Joe Hill,
it's there you find Joe Hill!
I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night,
alive as you and me.
Says I "But Joe, you're ten years dead"
"I never died" said he,
"I never died" said he.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:55 PM
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4. I heard her sing those
in Crawford. Yup, tears all over my face. She is one hell of a good woman isn't she? AND she smells good!
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dhaight Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:51 PM
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2. Agree ....
I heard this played a few days ago and boo-hooed all the way home. When will we ever learn???
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:55 PM
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3. Welcome to DU, dhaight. It seems as if you will be a welcome member of ou
community here.

:toast:

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:05 PM
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5. My fave from Joan Baez: "Diamonds and Rust" (re: Bob Dylan)
I'll be damned, here comes your ghost again
but that's not unusual
it's just that the moon is full
and you happened to call

And here I sit, hand on the telephone
hearing the voice I'd known
a couple of light years ago
headed straight for a fall

As I remember your eyes were bluer than robin's eggs
My poetry was lousy you said
Where are you calling from
A booth in the Midwest
Ten years ago I bought you some cufflinks
You brought me something
We both know what memories can bring
they bring Diamonds and Rust

Now I see you standing with brown leaves all around and snow in
your hair
Now we're smiling out the window of the crummy hotel over
washington square
Our breath comes out white clouds, mingles and hangs in the air
Speaking strictly for me
we both could've died then and there

Now you're telling me you're not nostalgic
then give me another word for it
you were so good with words
and at keeping things vague

cause I need some of that vagueness now, it's all come back too
clearly
yes, I loved you dearly
and if you're offering me diamonds and rust
I've already paid

But we both know what memories can bring
they bring Diamonds and Rust
yes we both know what memories can bring
they bring Diamonds and Rust

Diamonds, Diamonds and Rust
Diamonds, Diamonds and Rust
Diamonds, Diamonds and Rust
Diamonds, Diamonds and Rust


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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 08:39 AM
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13. Also one of my favorites
"Love is Just a Four Letter Word" is another. Written by Dylan, I believe.

Seems like only yesterday
I left my mind behind
Down in the Gypsy Cafe
With a friend of a friend of mine
She sat with a baby heavy on her knee
Yet spoke of life most free from slavery
With eyes that showed no trace of misery
A phrase in connection first with she
I heard
That love is just a four-letter word

Outside a rambling store-front window
Cats meowed to the break of day
Me, I kept my mouth shut, too
To you I had no words to say
My experience was limited and underfed
You were talking while I hid
To the one who was the father of your kid
You probably didn't think I did, but I heard
You say that love is just a four-letter word

I said goodbye unnoticed
Pushed towards things in my own games
Drifting in and out of lifetimes
Unmentionable by name
Searching for my double, looking for
Complete evaporation to the core
Though I tried and failed at finding any door
I must have thought that there was nothing more
Absurd than that love is just a four-letter word

Though I never knew just what you meant
When you were speaking to your man
I can only think in terms of me
And now I understand
After waking enough times to think I see
The Holy Kiss that's supposed to last eternity
Blow up in smoke, its destiny
Falls on strangers, travels free
Yes, I know now, traps are only set by me
And I do not really need to be
Assured that love is just a four-letter word
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saged52 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:06 PM
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6. have tickets to see her next Saturday night -
at a small venue on a small college campus. already have chills down my spine - I know I will cry, too
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:38 PM
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8. Lucky Ducky!
Blow Joan a kiss for DemoTex .. please!

Mac
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saged52 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:47 PM
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11. will lovingly do that -
just for you!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:11 PM
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7. You can damn Pete Seeger too while you're at it. Pete wrote this damn
heartbreaking, history constantly repeating itself, song.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 08:42 AM
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14. I think it was originally derived from an old Russian folk song. n/t
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:56 AM
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15. I just did a little research. It was inspired by a passage
in And Quiet Flows the Don by Mikhail Sholokhov, which was written in 1934.
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:39 PM
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9. In one of those funky moods Tom?
Joan B. always makes this tough guy cry. Only time I've ever seen Hells Angels cry, At a Joan Baez concert.

She's an angel, and I'm a big fan, for 30+ years now.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:46 PM
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10. "When will we ever learn?"
I sat on a floor, within 15 feet of her when she sang those words in the mid-1960's, and in the same gymnasium listened to Peter, Paul and Mary sing those wonderful Pete Seeger lyrics.

Fact is - We haven't; I don't know if we ever will.

But, I also know, we must - or the music is going to stop, forever.


Peace.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 02:20 AM
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12. "The human chauvinism that has so narrowed our vision . . .
that we can talk of 'nuclear survival' and spend a million dollars per minute on weapons of cosmic destruction must cease. . . Today it is more and more evident that the time has come for humanity to let go of war, to admit that it has outgrown war, and to move beyond war as a way of settling differences. Just as humanity one hundred years ago outlawed slavery, so it is capable today of outlawing war." Theologian Matthew Fox
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:53 AM
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16. I'd like to hear party leadership singing this song
and some others, publicly.

After all, they are of an age to remember these songs when they were new. They can see history repeating itself. They haven't formulated a stronger, better voice in opposition now that they are in positions of leadership themselves.

I'd like to hear Howard Dean sing "Masters of War" at his next public appearance.

And let's not forget some current ditties; Pelosi could sing John McCutcheon's "The List." Harry Reid could sing Hugh Blumenfeld's "Shadow Government."

There are enough good songs out there to keep them singing for awhile; maybe in doing so, they could develop their own voice.
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