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Sun Oct-09-05 01:07 PM
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Are you as confused as the GOP wants you to be on Meirs? |
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NOTE TO SELF:
"* nominated her - based on his leadership history, pathetically disastrous wake of past decisions, an other RW nut appointments this is BAD, BAD, BAD - MUST OPPOSE!"
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Sun Oct-09-05 01:40 PM
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1. No confusion here at all. |
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First, let's make sure that we all understand that Chimpy would not nominate anybody but a RW religious ideologue to SCOTUS. There is precisely zero chance that Miers does not fulfill this criteria.
Second, in spite of all the hoopla about no litmus tests, there is precisely zero chance that Chimpy and Company did not choose Roberts and Miers for their opinions on prospective case law. Figuring prominently in those opinions would be an absolute and total opposition to Roe v. Wade, amongst others.
We all already know how Roberts will rule on these cases. We all already know how Miers would rule if she's approved by the Senate.
If she is approved, Justice Kennedy will be sitting in the rocking chair as the swing vote. That is a dramatic move to the extreme right for this court.
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Sun Oct-09-05 01:45 PM
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Glad to see some sense prevail here on DU.
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Sun Oct-09-05 01:51 PM
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Why would they want Roe overturned? You don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg. They're trying to get someone who *won't* settle the issues that have been feeding their movement for decades and who can still get past the base. Roberts proved that Bush doesn't have to worry about whether the Dems will block--they have neither the means nor, it seems, the will. A stealth nominee now can only be aimed at getting past the Right, and now they're starting to realize the ride Bush has taken them on.
The Bush admin is business-oriented, not religious-oriented. They appease the religious right, but this wouldn't appease them, it would almost end their movement. Once they won on abortion, why would the religious right keep voting for a bunch of soulless businessmen?
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Sun Oct-09-05 02:18 PM
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4. "Why would the religious right keep voting for souless businessmen?" |
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Many, many reasons that go far beyond RvW. For one thing, they don't recognize that bushco are in fact soulless businessmen. They think bushco is all about religion. They still want to get rid of social programs, supress homosexuals, deny rights to women, make this a one-religion country, and most importantly...take us into war that will be armageddon so that they can be reuinted with jesus.
Lotsa reasons.
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Sun Oct-09-05 02:36 PM
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8. Ah, but he can't deliver those, nor can he pretend to. |
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Right now America would not find it out of the mainstream, as it were, to overturn Roe v Wade. But he couldn't seriously hope to indefinitely propose anything (like they do with RvW) that would deny rights to homosexuals (that they already de facto, not de jure, possess), that would start armageddon, that would establish Christianity, that would deny non-abortion women's rights, etc. Abortion is the one thing they can propose overturning, and thus it is the one thing they must never.
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Sun Oct-09-05 02:21 PM
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5. All Democrats should cast a "no" ballot. n/t |
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Sun Oct-09-05 02:25 PM
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6. But isn't that assuming that the GOP is so much smarter than the Dems? |
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They are all high-fivin' and laughing with each other in secret as the dumb Democrats fall for their scam?
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Sun Oct-09-05 02:29 PM
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7. Miers outrages the GOP, splits the base, and-if confirmed-will NEVER |
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satisfy the radical right.
George Bush has made a tremendous mistake and split the last segment in America that was backing him. If we defeat Miers, we give him a "do-over" and I guarantee he won't make the same mistake twice. The next nominee-Alito, Jones, Luttig etc-will play to the base, unite them again, and send them energized and fighting into the 2006 election.
Why on earth would we give Bush an easy way out of this disaster he has made for himself?
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Sun Oct-09-05 02:57 PM
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9. this is my thinking, too |
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Vote her in, if the right doesn't want her let them vote against her. The replacement for her will be far worse and more radical. Besides, she will epose the right as the dullards they really are. And she is 63 years old she's not out to plow new ground. it will be hard enough for her to just keep up with superior minds
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Sun Oct-09-05 03:09 PM
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10. Will she even make it out of committee ? |
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And will she get more Democratic votes than Republican?
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Sun Oct-09-05 03:11 PM
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11. Even if she doesn't, we'll find out who the back up |
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singer is and that person will have the same agenda. It's all about who has the control in this situation. I tell you Falwell & Robertson want to be seen as annointing the next SC justice.
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Sun Oct-09-05 03:20 PM
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12. Thats the question of the hour.....If Santorum and Coburn vote against |
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and all Democrats do too, she never gets out of committee. I think enough Dems will vote for her to get out of committee.
I so want her to go to the floor for a full vote so everyone of those assholes has to go on record either supporting or rejecting her. Their base will never forgive them if she is confirmed.
Bush gave us this gift on a silver platter. And if she really does turn out to be another O'Conner, the Republicans won't recover for a generation-if then.
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