Does anyone know where I can get a Bird Flu vaccination?

[LiveWire]

I know I am 21 years old, but I live in a college town with the highest population density this side of the Mississippi. When someone gets sick in Isla Vista, we all get sick. I fear that because we are young, we will not be vaccinated. however, so far, the flu has show to kill more than half its victoms regardless of age.

I would also like to know if it is possible to get vaccination for the rest of my school. If anyone has any info on this, it would be appreciated. I live in Santa Barbara, CA

[benburch]

1. There is no vaccine yet. nt

[pattim]

2. It isn't contagious human to human.

There is no vaccine yet. It's all alarmism at this point.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

3. Don't worry yet

There are no cases here. There are a handful of cases worldwide.

No vaccine yet, but it is being developed.

[John Q. Citizen]

4. There are two known cases of human to human transmission

of the avian flu.

That could change, but if it does the vaccine would no longer protect you, because the virus that causes the avian flu would have changed.

[NNN0LHI]

10. That isn't what this doctor said yesterday

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/08/smn.01.html

<snip>DR. WALTER ORENSTEIN, EMORY UNIVERSITY: Well, we really don't know how serious it will be. There are several things that make us concerned -- the spread in Asia, the numbers of people who have been infected so far and the fact that the virus is mutating and becoming more virulent.

On the other hand, we've seen no evidence of human to human transmission, which is necessary for a severe pandemic. So I think a much more likely scenario this season will be our traditional influenza outbreaks, where 36,000 people die, on average, and over 200,000 are hospitalized. So I hope everybody listening in who needs influenza...

[John Q. Citizen]

25. I was passing on the information provided by DUer

sparosnare, in her excellent piece on Type A flu viruses, avian flu,
and how Type A flu viruses mutate.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4971678

[CelticWinter]

5. take a look at this it maybe something your interested in

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=20737

make sure to download the book its free....myself i would rather go with herbs and vitamins that a shot anyday

Celtic

[sarcasmo]

6. Propaganda to get Delay and the others in trouble off of the front page.

[mike_c]

9. with all due respect-- avian flu is NOT propaganda....

It's potentially far more important a threat to Americans than the mundane and predictable criminality of venal politicians.

[sarcasmo]

16. Keep believing their TERRA and maybe your city will be the one placed

under Martial Law.

[mike_c]

21. wow....

You really should look beyond your cable news channel. Check this out-- especially read the Annex 1: www.who.int/entity/csr/resources/publications/influenza/11_29_01_A.pdf

[sarcasmo]

24. I only get my news from the internet and will not believe any of your

Bird flu propaganda. Keep fueling your fears.

[muriel_volestrangler]

27. Guess what? That's an internet link

so try looking at it. It's a PDF from the World Health Organization. Why dismiss it as propaganda (especially since you haven't read it)? Unless all your posts consist of sarcasm, of course. But we don't know how much to read into your username.

[sarcasmo]

26. FYI, your W.H.O. link did not open up.

[mike_c]

28. it just loaded for me (and on another network, too)....

It's a pdf doc. You'll need a PDF reader, e.g. Acrobat, to open it. The link works fine.

[John Q. Citizen]

22. If avian flu mutates to facilitate easy human to human infection,

people will be begging for martial law.

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past..

http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda/


I would rather see the US mobilize to quickly and effectively create a vaccine, quickly produce a vaccince in large enouh quantities and distribute that vaccine in the event that a virolent type A influenza virus mutates to be able to be spread easily from human to human.

[Mr_Spock]

7. It hasn't even mutated into a airborne yet....

Where are you getting your information from??

There is nothing to even vaccinate you from yet. I guess the Bush Terra Terra is working!

[malaise]

8. Take a low dose aspirin daily

81 - I've done this for three years and haven't even had a common cold. Bushco will not be scaring me about avian flu.

[sarcasmo]

17. Good advice from someone wise.

[MarsThe Cat]

19. if you can get them(from canada) 222's are the way to go...

375mg aspirin, 8mg codiene phosphate, 15mg caffiene.

it's my morning cup of coffee...since i don't drink coffee.

[malaise]

20. That dose will destroy your

poor stomach. Damn that's strong stuff. I take one 81 with my Centrum multi-vitamins.

[MissMarple]

11. Tamiflu and Relenza may help if you should get avian flu.

There is currently no vaccination available at this time.

[kestrel91316]

12. No vaccine yet for H5N1 Avian Flu. But it's a good idea

to go ahead and get your regular type flu shot. In college, you have lots of contact with run-down, stressed, sick students. No point in getting sick yourself.

If you are worried about Avian Flu, brush up on infection control measures like frequent handwashing (soap and hot water), not touching face with hands unnecessarily, keeping doorknobs and phones and handles disinfected. BTW, doing all this cuts down on transmission of regular flu, too.

Don't worry about Avian Flu until and unless it starts propagating from person-to-person. It will be in the news when it happens.


Edit: sp

[librechik]

23. This season's fu shot is already being given to at-risk people

like the elderly and those with heart disease. Normal folks like yourself and your school can get this season's flu shot beginning in the 3rd week of October from your regular doctor or I go to the local Immunization Office (where they give out vaccines for foreign travel; it's in my city health department office) an get one for $10. My state (COLOrado) thinks they have plenty of vaccine on hand to handle everybody in the state who wants this season's flu shot.

It's not avian flu vaccine, but I believe it will help against other flu outbreaks, and give an immunity boost in general to viral attacks.

[koopie57]

13. I think that if you are becomming anxious about this

I'll give you the same advice I have given my kids and their friends; wash your hands often with soap and water, get a little more sleep than you normally get being a student and eat a little better, add a few more citrus fruits and maybe drink V-8 every couple days and drink a little more water than you are in the habit of and get some physical exercise, even just a walk outside.

[graywarrior]

14. Stressing out over this will weaken your immune system

Take a multi vitamin, don't stay up all night drinking & toking, work out or jog, eat more vegetables & grains. You'll be fine.

Oh yeah...don't believe everything until there is proof positive evidence in front of your face. We we're all gonna die of SARS a few years ago....

[readmylips]

15. No mutation to human, no vaccine...lots of bush hot air again....

Per scientists it has been reported that 60 people in China have died of the avian-like flu. Sixty people compared to the population of China is like saying zero died. Not much information has been said about where these people lived in China. Ex. city, country, farm, etc. These are infections people working with animals get, and they are not in the cities.

Beautiful city of Santa Barbara will get a big earthquate first, before getting the avian chicken flu.

Now lets get back to the bush administration corruption.

[troubleinwinter]

18. "highest population density this side of the Mississippi"

Santa Barbara, population density 2,093 per sq. mi.

East Los Angeles, 16,819
San Francisco, 15,502
Berkeley, 9,824
City of Los Angleles, 7,426
Oakland, 6,640
Seattle, 6,154
Salinas 5,840
San Jose, 4,568
Sacramanto, 3,836
Portland, 3,508
Las Vegas, 3,103

I would think you might have thought to call your Health Department or ask the college medical office, let alone research some population density statistics.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. He's right about Isla Vista

It DOES have the highest pop. density E. of the Mississippi- at least it used to, back in my day.

It's a small place, with lots of students. Wonderful little corner of the Universe.

Santa Barbara is not Isla Vista.

[Warren DeMontague]

31. Correction/Wikipedia on Isla Vista:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Vista,_California

They have the current population density at 8,635.2/sq. mi, so I guess the thing about "highest" population density is urban legend, although it was common folk 'knowledge' back in my day down there, as well.

(And it's worth noting the population in IV has gone down since 1990, and they don't have pop. figures for 1980. So it's conceivable to me that once upon a time that may have been an accurate statement)

[Warren DeMontague]

29. I think they're working on it

but the thing to keep in mind is that H5N1, the avian flu, has not developed the ability to be transmitted easily person-to-person. The fear is that it will, and it's not a bad idea to be aware of the potential for such an occurrence.

(Unless you reject modern understandings of evolution, genetic mutation, and DNA transmigration and exchange as applies to viruses- or, as someone so eloquently put it in a thread last night: "No Flu Vaccine for Intelligent Design Proponents!")

To summarize: Don't worry, yet. The biggest thing you should be worrying about down there this month is avoiding the drunk out-of-towners who do head dives off the cliffs during Halloween. Take it from me, I'm alleged to have once lived in IV myself... although my recollections of it are rather hazy.

[pitohui]

32. same place you got yr SARS vaccination

stop living in fear, there will always be a new wave of hysteria designed to sell you worthless drugs