My DU Creed

[Botany]

I believe that both the 2000 and 2004 Presidential Elections
were Stolen
I believe that George W Bush is the worst President in the history of
America
I believe that bush is just a mouth piece for powerful interests
I believe that we were lied into an unneeded war with Iraq
I believe that the fact bin Laden has not been accounted for is a crime
I support our troops but that does mean I support the policies that
put them in harms way
I believe that the large sections of the media are corrupt and or lazy
and have failed in their chief purpose ..... to give factual accounts of the
news
I believe that large sections of the media are used by powerful forces
to demonize liberals, to put out half truths, and to distract the public with
non news stories
I believe that faith is a private matter, and in some cases very important
to that person; but there should be a wall between church & state.
I believe that nothing is more American then, "I disagree with what you
say but I will defend to the death your right to say it
I believe that posts by Botany are like a cool breeze on a June evening
when you are sitting outside with family and friends after a fine meal. :rofl:
I attend the great church of the DU where we help each through our
"mental issues" ..... Everybody else has the problem .... not me.

And just lately I have come to believe that John Roberts is a gay man
who lives in a cover marriage with a ready made family and was placed
one the Supreme court so as to provide cover to the bush crime family.

[adarling]

1. hope you don't mind, i am going to use this for my web journal

it just sums up everything i feel as well. Couldn't put it better.

[pattim]

2. If I don't agree with one of those,

do I not belong here?

[Botany]

4. Fine

Welcome to DU :beer:

I believe that nothing is more American then, "I disagree with what you
say but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

btw which one??????? :rofl:

[pattim]

12. #1

2004, I don't believe, was strictly stolen, especially not if I believe as I currently do that elections should be settled only on plurality of popular vote. I have never seen convincing proof of 3.1M stolen votes. I've seen allegations, innuendo, and "how-they-could-have" suggestions, but no proof.

[Botany]

15. I live in Columbus OH ..... Franklin County

I saw "it" with my own eyes & I heard "it" with my own ears.

http://www.thousandreasons.org/get_article.php?article_id=13

And across the country too.
Colorado for example 100,000 people voted for liberal pro choice
democrat for US senator but then voted for bush as president? Please.

Indiana 7 counties .... a straight party ticket (dems only) flipped your vote
to a 3rd party candidate

New Mexico every county that used optiscan went to bush in 2004 .... even
counties that went to Gore in 2000 and had more registered democrats in
2004

and on and on

[jarnocan]

30. FEENEY is fighting to render the verified voting

bill(s) meaningless- to make the paper trail into toilet paper or whatever the local operatives want it to be, Don't let them http://vvlobbydays.blogspot.com 2 active petitions. Tell them to pass the Russ Holt's bill HR 550
Tom Feeney rememmber his name -Clinton curtis testified about him-well now he is pushing his own bogus Voter's rights bill, the right to flush it.

Also as far as Robert's protecting the Bush crime family- geez now his personnel lawyer, close fawning friend is a nominee- how pathetic. Well at least she has had a 30 year long semi-romatic relationship- maybe she's even had semi-sex-probably about as much as Mr.s Roberts.
BTW there are some folks who are not much interested- either way straight or gay BTW-just NO real desire -my ex just like to pat his cat- that was about it-no not the P.-seriously just his cat, his twin brother too-never had a boy or girl friend-just cats.
Great post BTW!
thanks for the above link Botany.

[IndyOp]

32. OMG - You are right! - posts by Botany are like a cool breeze

on a June evening when you are sitting outside with family and friends after a fine meal.

Your post above is an excellent example of such!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Sydnie]

16. Did you see proof in 2000?

Hanging chads were enough for you then?

The long lines in Ohio, the broken machines there making the lines even longer, People waiting 4 to 12 hours to vote, having their cars towed, having to leave to get their children, losing their jobs because they stayed to vote, flyers telling the communities of color in democratic areas that THEIR day to vote was Wednesday and not Tuesday, The voter registration company that shredded registrations from democrats only (in more than one state, mind you), the purging of the voting rolls in many states ... etc.

They didn't HAVE to flip the machines because they discouraged the voters (documented by statements made by the Ohio governmental officials that just happened to be GOPers), Diebold promising to deliver the Ohio votes to blivet**... they didn't have to do it but they did just because they needed a number high enough for people to give them the benefit of the doubt. They can't have that benefit with me. I have seen the head of the beast and recognize it well.

You will never live long enough to see the proof ... neither will I. But it's there, others know it and will some day tell their tales of woe to save their mortal souls.

That, I have no doubt about at all.

Welcome to DU. You don't have to agree with me or Botany at all to be welcome here. We are a "big tent" here. :hi:

[DemReadingDU]

21. I live in Ohio too

I agree with Botany...and we need to get our voting system changed, or it's going to be tough to win future major elections


BTW, Welcome to DU :hi:

[tavalon]

25. Get thee over to the 2004 election forum

They've got enough proof to make you pale with shock or flushed with anger, take your pick.

[pattim]

29. Lurked over there quite a bit.

But after checking it all out, doing a bit of stats myself, and doing a bit of research myself, I haven't seen anything that would remotely stand up in a court. Therefore, we have allegations and innuendos and suggestions aplenty, but little real *proof.* Nothing that could prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, but enough to fuel quite a few conspiracy theories (and I say 'conspiracy theory' in as non-demeaning of a fashion as I can). But this isn't the place for a flamewar over it. I'll just take my reality, and you can take your reality, and I suppose I should just try to avoid forcing those realities to meet in a violent fashion.

[me b zola]

6. You don't agree with #2?

I am interested in who you believe has been a worse pres than bush*. :shrug:

[tavalon]

24. We are not fascist

lockstep isn't required. Thoughtful discourse encouraged.

[Tommy_J]

3. Well said!!

[crispini]

5. I believe...

I'll have another drink.



Nice post, Cuddles! :thumbsup:

[Botany]

7. Fix me one Crispi? .... Whiskey Sour?

and post something frisky .... but please don't get this thread locked.

I like the pink furry cuffs but I don't know if the DUers who read GD
are up on the ways of a KOEB.

:rofl:

[crispini]

10. Yup, whiskey sour!

:toast:


A toast! To the DU creed!

and pink furry handcuffs!:toast:

[Botany]

17. Thanx crispi .....

Sour - tastic

Furry Cuff pix?????


:evilgrin:

[I Have A Dream]

8. Yes, yes... the great church of the DU. I like it! n/t

[Sydnie]

9. As usual, right on the mark but the only thing missing is

a little more Robert Downey Jr, please! :loveya: Bud-dee ;)

[Botany]

11. No problem to my fav EDV

I believe that Sydnie and R.D. Jr will wind up in the summer house @
Gull Bay.

?path=pgallery&path_key=Downey%20Jr.,%20Robert

[Sydnie]

13. Yummy! He's in Good Night and Good Luck too

Can't wait to see that one, over and over and over and :::pant pant::: over again! :rofl:

[Angry Girl]

14. Here, here!

Although I don't know about Roberts.

[understandinglife]

18. Superb! Thank you Botany!! Oh, and I believe that we are going to be ...

.... watching lots and lots and lots of neoconsters (including georgie and dickie) being tried for treason, perjury, conspiracy, .....



Peace.

[Botany]

20. No doubt but they will not go down without a fight .....

but the FBI, Justice Dept, and media will give em cover.

Bush does look like shit lately ..... and both he and cheney retained
lawyers in response to the Plame investigation.

Treason .... it is not just for breakfast anymore.

[EFerrari]

19. sending you these virtual ladybugs.

((((((((((((((Botany)))))))))))))))

[indepat]

22. Won't touch the Roberts issue, but otherwise believe I believe your other

beliefs: does that make me a liberal or just someone who, holistically, looks reality in the eye?

[bonito]

23. Great post!

[In Truth We Trust]

26. I believe we need Paper ballots NOW! Hand counts NOW! Impeachment Now!

[jarnocan]

31. HR550

2 recent petitions Sure can't take it for granted. They will try to make the good bills useless. Support the HR550 PLEASE!http://vvlobbydays.blogspot.com

[More Than A Feeling]

27. My own DU Creed

I believe that George W. Bush is the worst president in the history of America. It would be right and just to impeach him.
I believe that the right of American citizens to vote and have it count as they intended is sacrosanct.
I believe in checks and balances, and that corruption that threatens those protections must be rooted out and destroyed.
I believe that continuing the Iraq war will force a draft or destroy our army, and that we must withdraw now.
I believe that the greatest threats to our national security are nuclear proliferation and terrorism, and that neither have been addressed.
I believe that long term deficits and massive debt must be brought under control, without destroying social security, medicare, and medicaid.
I believe that the threat of increasing income inequality to our society has been exacerbated, and must be addressed.
I believe that GLBT people deserve every right under the law that non-GLBT people have.
I believe that science needs governmental support without governmental interference.
I believe that I can be a good Christian and support a comprehensive interpretation of the Establishment Clause.
I believe that Democrats win when they stand up for themselves, and clearly contrast who they are and what they believe with Republicans.

I am a DU Democrat

[Joey Liberal]

28. DU should start a church

Great creed. I agree 100 percent.

[Cocoa]

33. creeds are against what I believe DU stands for

I believe that DU is a forum for discussion, not a platform from which to proselytize my beliefs.

I believe that my opinions are just that, my opinions. They are not the "truth."

I believe that if other people don't agree with me, they're not heretics, they just don't agree with me.

[Botany]

38. What part of the following is not clear?

I believe that nothing is more American then, "I disagree with what you
say but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

[Neil Lisst]

34. Botany, that was good

Yeah, I'm going to have to second that emotion.

I agree with almost everything you said.


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TERROR ALERT!
http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst/

[Fountain79]

35. Are you sure????

That you want to share a view point with Fred Phelps?

http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/sep2005/20050902_roberts-may-be-fag.pdf

[Botany]

37. It is not the fact (???) that he is Gay that is the problem

it is his willingness to work with such homophobic shits
as the right wing that bothers me..... also his "cover" is just another of the
manipulation of the message the bushco needs to survive.

[DemonFighterLives]

36. Agree with all of that, but don't know if Roberts is gay or not

Definitely will try to provide cover for dubco. Dubbie needs dozens of full time staff to provide cover for him and payoffs and threats to make it all stick.
Can dubby sucks be part of the creed? :freak: