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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:18 PM
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Dear Ignorants; IRAQ HAD NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do w 911.
NOTHING. NO TIES between Iraq-Hussein-911-al Qaeda.

"To my knowledge, I have not seen any strong, hard evidence that links the two."
-Rumsfeld, Monday, October 4, 2004
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,10975887-1702,00.html

BBC NEWS | Americas | Bush rejects Saddam 9/11 link
US President George Bush has said there is no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 11 September attacks.

"We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the 11 September attacks," Mr Bush told reporters as he met members of Congress on energy legislation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3118262.stm

Sky News (London): "One question for you both. Do you believe that there is a link between Saddam Hussein, a direct link, and the men who attacked on September the 11th?"

Bush: "I can't make that claim.'
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030131-23.html

Sept 17, 2003- Bush: No evidence Saddam Hussein involved in Nine-Eleven attacks
http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1447698

Sept 16, 2003- Rice: U.S. Never Said Saddam Was Behind 9/11
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/983821/posts

Sept 16, 2003- Rumsfeld sees no link between Saddam Hussein, 9/11
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-09-16-rumsfeld-iraq-911_x.htm

Aug 6, 2003- Wolfowitz: Iraq Was Not Involved In 9-11 Terrorist Attacks, No Ties To Al-Qaeda
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4372.htm

UN Panel Reports No al-Qaida-Iraq Ties
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/breaking_news/6176302.htm

Leaked Report Rejects Link Claims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2727471.stm

Newly Declassified Intelligence Documents on Iraq-al Qaeda Relationship
Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., today released documents recently declassified at his request that illustrate that some claims of a cooperative relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda made by top administration officials in support of the Iraq war were contrary to what U.S. intelligence officials believed to be true.
http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=236440

Sources: U.S. distorted Saddam-al Qaeda link - Senior U.S. officials now say there never was any evidence that Saddam's secular police state and Osama bin Laden's Islamic terrorism network were in league.
https://registration.dfw.com/reg/login.do?url=http://www.dfw.com%2Fmld%2Fdfw%2Fnews%2F8094015.htm

Spanish intelligence service says no link between Saddam and Al Qaeda: report
Spain's counter-espionage service believes there is no link between toppled Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and the extremist Al Qaeda network, national media has reported. - The head of the National Intelligence Centre, Jorge Dezcaller, added that Al Qaeda had even accused Saddam of not respecting the principles of Islam,
http://www.thedailystar.net/2003/09/06/

The Next Debate: Al Qaeda Link
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60616FE3A580C738EDDAE0894DB404482

Brent Scowcroft, one of the Republican Party’s most respected foreign policy advisors;

"Don't Attack Saddam. It would undermine our antiterror efforts. There is scant evidence to tie Saddam to terrorist organizations, and even less to the Sept. 11 attacks."
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002133

Allies Find No Links Between Iraq, Al Qaeda

"What I'm asked is if I've seen any evidence of that. (Iraq links to al Qaeda) And the answer is: I haven't.” -British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, who supports U.S. invasion & occupation of Iraq.
http://www.latimes.com/la-fg-noqaeda4nov04,0,4538810.story

British Intelligence agencies, MI6 and MI5

A dossier prepared by the two agencies “showed no discernible links between Iraq and al-Qaida,”
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=375403

Richard Kerr, a former deputy CIA director who lead an internal review of the CIA's prewar intelligence;

“the CIA has not found any proof of operational ties between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's regime.”
http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?pid=800

The White House’s own publication, A Decade of Defiance and Deception, makes no mention of Osama bin Laden or al Qaeda.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect5.html

The 2002 congressional joint intelligence committee’s report on the Sept. 11 attacks revealed that the Bush administration had no evidence to support its claim that Saddam’s government was supporting al-Qaeda.
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030723-064812-9491r

No proof links Iraq, al-Qaida, Colin Powell says
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ID/3909150

According to a "top secret British document", quoted by the BBC "there is nothing but enmity between Iraq and Al Qaeda." The BBC said the leak came from intelligence officials upset that their work was being used to justify war." (quoted in Daily News, New York, 6 February 2003).
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO303D.html

Iraq-al Qaeda links weak, say former Bush officials

Three former Bush administration officials who worked on intelligence and national security issues have told National Journal that the prewar evidence tying al Qaeda to Iraq was tenuous, exaggerated, and often at odds with the conclusions of key intelligence agencies.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0803/080803nj2.htm

Split at C.I.A. and F.B.I. On Iraqi Ties to Al Qaeda

"…analysts at the Central Intelligence Agency have complained that senior administration officials have exaggerated the significance of some intelligence reports about Iraq, particularly about its possible links to terrorism, in order to strengthen their political argument for war, government officials said."

and…

"At the Federal Bureau of Investigation, some investigators said they were baffled by the Bush administration's insistence on a solid link between Iraq and Osama bin Laden|s network. "We've been looking at this hard for more than a year and you know what, we just don't think it's there," a government official said."
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70D1EF83E5C0C718CDDAB0894DB404482

This is consistent with what they were saying back in October 2002.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A14056-2002Oct24

"There's absolutely no evidence that Iraq was supporting al Qaeda, ever."
-Richard Clarke, former terrorism chief under bush.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/main607356.shtml

Iraq-al Qaeda ties have not been found

Bush administration hyped sketchy and false evidence to push for war
The Bush administration’s claim that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had ties to al Qaeda — one of the administration’s central arguments for a pre-emptive war — appears to have been based on even less solid intelligence than the administration’s claims that Iraq had hidden stocks of chemical and biological weapons.

Nearly a year after U.S. and British troops invaded Iraq, no evidence has turned up to verify allegations of Saddam’s links with al Qaeda, and several key parts of the administration’s case have either proved false or seem increasingly doubtful.
http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/2004/03/04/news/nation/8101079.htm

Iraq and al Qaeda: What Evidence?
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=23816

bush's own hand-picked Republican weapons hunter ISG, Dr. David Kay;

David Kay was on the ground for months investigating the activities of Hussein's regime. He concluded "But we simply did not find any evidence of extensive links with Al Qaeda, or for that matter any real links at all."

He called a speech where Cheney made the claim there was a link, as being "evidence free."
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2004/06/16/bush_backs_cheney_on_assertion_linking_hussein_al_qaeda/

Israeli intelligence (the Moussad)

“According to Israeli intelligence, Palestinians are still not connected to the global terror network, and neither is Iraq.”
http://www.haaretz.com /

bush's second and final hand-picked Republican weapons hunter ISG, Dr. Charles Dueffler;

Report: No WMD stockpiles in Iraq, no capability since 1991, no evidence of ties to al Qaeda, no serious threat;
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/06/1096949583023.html?from=storylhs

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2004/isg-final-report/

OFFICIAL VERDICT: WHITE HOUSE MISLED WORLD OVER SADDAM-AL QAEDA TIES (no, actually, only AMERICANS were ever dumb enough to think Iraq did 911)
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0617-03.htm

No evidence of Iraq-Al Qaeda ties: 9/11 commission
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/06/cheney.911

"CIA Review Finds No Evidence Saddam Had Ties to Islamic Terrorists"
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1005-01.htm

NO TIES. GET OVER IT and wake the fuck up!
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:21 PM
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1. $1.5 billion dollars a week JUST FOR BEING IN IRAQ is the reason.
And to stay there until the money's gone. Our tax money, that is.

Can any Freeper counter the money that's going into crony pockets as having anything to do with freedom, democracy, or humanitarian aid to Iraq, or any of the other reasons they've smoked and mirrored?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:22 PM
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2. In Case I have not told you this week Lynn....
:yourock:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:26 PM
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3. Awww, ta, LC! Hey, we gotta show the world that not ALL Americans
are stupid MFers.

:hug:
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:41 PM
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4. I just adore your composites.
You make life way too easy. :hug: I have a LynnTheDem folder for easy reference.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:12 PM
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5. Thanks, PP!
I love your posts, too; your COMMON SENSE is so bloody rare nowadays.

:hug:
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:51 PM
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6. Freeps: Turn off that Fox TV, and listen to LynnTheDem!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:07 PM
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7. Actually here's the Faux Moos article; "bush; no link between Iraq, 911"
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 10:13 PM by LynnTheDem
FOXNews.com - Politics - Bush: No Link Between Iraq, Sept. 11 Attacks
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,97527,00.html

Faux Moos went on about how bush NEVER EVER said there was any such links between Iraq and 911 and HOW DARE we libruls say he EVER implied such a thing!!!

Hume, claiming the bush administration never linked Iraq to September 11;

http://www.fair.org/activism/fox-commission.html
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:09 PM
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8. Oh speaking of freeps...EVEN FREEPS posted on FR that bush had NEVER EVER
said Iraq did 911 and HOW DARE we libruls imply he did!

*Looking up the link to that now...
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:11 PM
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9. Good post
They cant dispute it so theyll put their fingers in their ears and chant LA LA LA .
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:12 PM
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10. You are preaching to the choir here
This belongs at Freeperville but I am sure you would be banned for posting it :)
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:15 PM
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12. I post this at least 1/mth for the ignorant (freeps) who lurk.
And hell yeah, if I posted the FAUX MOOS link with the FAUX MOOS headline "Bush: No Link Between Iraq, Sept. 11 Attacks", I'd be banned in a heartbeat, LOL!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,97527,00.html
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:14 PM
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11. Dear Ignorants! You didn't win the last three elections either!
2000 2002 2004 you stole them all! Wake the fuck up! And your leaders don't give a rat's ass about you unless you are among the mega rich! So again, WAKE THE FUCK UP!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:15 PM
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13. We should turn that into a chain letter!!!!!!
OR we could print ten thousand pages with all that on it and past them all over Sean Hannitys Car!
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:21 PM
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14. perfect gift for every freeper on my email list
thank you
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 11:10 PM
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17. Some more to laugh at rightwingnuts about...
Rightwing(nut) News; check out #3;

Debunking 8 Anti-War Myths About The Conflict In Iraq

Myth #3; The Bush Administration claimed Iraq was responsible for 9/11. It's always difficult to prove a negative, but that simply never happened.

http://www.rightwingnews.com/special/xyz.php

The Bush administration has never claimed that Iraq was involved in 9/11...
http://www.rightwingnews.com/john/warfaq.php

Yeah, 70% of Americans, and over 80% of all Faux Moos viewers were just really really stupid and happened to come up with the same stupid belief outta thin air and all at the same time. :eyes:

And the MAJORITY of rightwingnuts who STILL believe Iraq did 911? Well they in fact actually are really stupid. Gee, I wonder why 70% of Americans thought Iraq had done 911... :rofl:

GOP lawmaker: Saddam linked to 9/11 - Jun 29, 2005
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/29/hayes.911/

The Saddam-9/11 Link Confirmed - RushOnline.com
http://www.rushonline.com/visitors/linkconfirmed.htm

The Saddam-9/11 Link Confirmed
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133186/posts

Saddam's Ambassador to al-Qaeda *(The Smoking Gun)*
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1083778/posts

Freepers and Rushie-boy should let bush/cheney/powell/rice/wolfowitz et al know about this "confirmation" and "smoking gun"! :rofl:

**There is a post on FR where the wee freepies are angrily denying bushCartel EVER implied Iraq did 911 and only us libruls say bush said Iraq did 911; if anyone can find the thread, I'd appreciate it! I have it here somewhere, but finding it will take me hours...



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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:24 PM
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15. Hey! How come you didnt quote FOX News????
:rofl:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 11:13 PM
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18. I did!
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 11:14 PM by LynnTheDem
FOXNews.com - Politics - Bush: No Link Between Iraq, Sept. 11 Attacks
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,97527,00.html

Faux Moos went on about how bush NEVER EVER said there was any such links between Iraq and 911 and HOW DARE we libruls say he EVER implied such a thing!!!

Hume, claiming the bush administration never linked Iraq to September 11;

http://www.fair.org/activism/fox-commission.html

And yet the MAJORITY of republicans STILL think Iraq did 911.

Can't be easy being that fucking stupid. :rofl:
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:45 AM
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22. LynntheDem, Faux is right!
I love to hate on Fox News. Watch them for five minutes at 5 AM, and wou have the Bush talking points of the day. They can barely wait to blurt out the phrase of the day.

The News Hounds site tracks them.

I will predict today we will hear about "Patrick Fitzgerald's criminalizing the political process."

See if you hear that today on MSM.

-----------------------
today I shout out to DU mods and posters
http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst/
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 05:32 AM
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26. that little gem got trotted out yesterday somewhere
I think..
"He's taking "politics as usual" and trying to make it criminal...."

(well... the way THEY do it)


(the water 'spins' faster the closer to the drain it gets)
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:43 PM
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16. Read and try to retain it freepy types, if you care about the troops
so damn much why do you want them to die for a fucking lie.

Lazy minded 30% Bush Cultists ideologues so small in stature and confidence that you can't admit you're wrong on such an important issue. You have fucked up the entire world by cheating this imbecile and his traitorous administration into office. Now admit your mistake and clean that disgusting piece of shit out of the White House!

Demand impeachment proceedings immediately, it is your only path of redemption, salvation, whatever you need to call that guilty little feeling some of you are starting to feel... that remorse that you have just a twinge of? You need to get in touch with that in a deep and spiritual manner. Apply some logic to the rest of everything bad you ever heard about the maniacal monkey and his top notch cronies, you might find that he is everything you hate (yes even worse than the Clenis).

Tell your Reps that they will never keep gays from marrying and abortions will run wild (well they have shot up again under your guy but...) and big business will be taxed into oblivion because of the angry Liberal backlash that is going to wash your neo-con, extremo-con, republi-con, corrupto-con, ex-con humanity destroying death cult of a party back to the stone age.

Redemption through impeachment ... there is no other way for you lot.

Get over it.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 11:16 PM
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19. Congrats - what a collection. You are my hero! eom
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:33 AM
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20. You'll never get any argument from me on this...
But this is an amazing collection. Thank you for posting this. Too bad we can't pass this on to the Freepers!:grr:

Bookmarked and nominated...:kick:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:48 AM
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21. Great List of Sources. Thanks. 9-11 and Iraq = 0 connection.n.t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:51 AM
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23. Now, thanks to W, Al Qaeda is bigger than ever
and probably running all over Iraq and everywhere else.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 05:22 AM
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24. Yeah, he's Pro-Terrah you know. nm
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 05:28 AM
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25. It amazes me how many people still believe this.
I have a running argument going with a guy on my school message boards about this. I posted several of your links there, but I bet they won't sway his opinion.
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 06:43 AM
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27. Bush seems
to be pushing this image more than ever. The truth is irrelevant to them.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 07:51 AM
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28. You know I heard David Worley's 'Have you forgotten?' this morning.
I tuned in just in time to hear that wonderful line "And we vow to get the ones behind Bin Laden". At least your thread provides a little sanity.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:05 PM
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29. Poor ignorant Worley didn't forget...he never knew in the first place.
Moran.
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