What celebs do you refuse to listen or watch for political reasons?

[cynatnite]

This covers TV, movies, music, interviews or anything else having to do with celebs.

[KitchenWitch]

1. Charlton Heston

[Jamastiene]

41. Yep.

Also, for me, Ted Nugent.

[O.M.B.inOhio]

57. I listen to Heston every time I start my computer!

It's short audio clip from 10 Commandments and Planet of the Apes, edited together seamlessly:
"THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD OF ISRAEL: LET MY PEOPLE GO, YOU DAMN DIRTY APE!"

[cynatnite]

92. I can hear that in my head!

:rofl:

[KitchenWitch]

100. You should add "From my cold dead hand!"

Now *THAT* is funny!

[ozarkvet]

103. Omega Man

Is such a cool movie, though.

Maybe it's b/c of my weakness for the heroine, though.

[jobycom]

2. None

If they have talent, I'll watch them. If they don't, politics doesn't help.

[CanuckAmok]

4. I agree.

Artist boycotts are Freeper tactics.

I care about some celeb's politics about as much as I care about his sex life.

[purduejake]

16. I refuse to watch for my own sanity...

not part of any political tactic.

[PeterPuck]

86. glad to read this here

It is such a freeperish thing to do. Although you may not agree with someone's politics why not listen to their music or watch their movies.

I prefer this site, because it usually feels that although the left may not agree with someone, they still listen to what they have to say.

Sticking your head in the sand is so childish.

[Mojambo]

15. Same here

There's always a fleeting moment of disgust when I first learn, but it's no different than the disgust I would feel for my mailman if I found out he were a freeper.

[expatriot]

25. If they are a public advocate for a cause I disagree with,

I will deny them any royalty from me. I will also deny them a "word of mouth" advertisement. Even if they have talent that I would otherwise enjoy, there is other talent out there. Life is Politics and politics is life. When performers take to the stage, they have people's ears.

[jobycom]

76. The medieval Church thought so, too

:-)

Just teasing you. I understand what you are saying.

[Kurovski]

29. A person's work stands or falls on its own.

Blacklisting is a bore. Keeping all that info straight on every artist.

On the other hand, when someone speaks up against fascism, er, Bush, I'm prone to pay closer attention to their work, to seek it out.

[Journeyman]

35. I judge artists by their art, not their politics. . .

and see their politics through a prism devoid of their art. For this reason, I can enjoy the poetry of Ezra Pound and the novels of Louis Ferdinand Celine, while holding the works of Dalton Trumbo and Bertolt Brecht in equal esteem. I can also denounce Pound and Celine for their adherence to fascism, while praising the good fights of Trumbo and Brecht. Here's the dichotomy laid bare: I named my son Dalton, yet encourage him to read Pound's Cantos.

[Gruenemann]

75. Art is Art

If I didn't watch Charlton Heston, I'd miss out on "Touch of Evil." I could never consider boycotting Clint Eastwood! C'mon, John Wayne? He's DEAD! "The Shootist" is brilliant anyway. I can live without Mel Gibson, but that has more to do with his movies being crap than his politics.

[Skittles]

3. Mel Gibson

homobphobic prick

[Webster Green]

Yeah, no Mel ever for me....

Fucking pseudo-Christian asswipe.

And add Bruce Willis to the list. What a Bush licking, ego-maniac that asshole is!

[tlsmith1963]

54. I Used to Like Him

But ever since he joined up with some weird religion, I haven't liked him. I think he has lost it. I think he joined some breakaway Catholic group that has some strange ideas, as I remember.

Tammy

[Mad_Dem_X]

63. I was sort of a fan until the day I read

that he doesn't believe in contraception, and doesn't believe women are equal to men. After that, I just didn't look at him in the same light. :thumbsdown:

[LostinVA]

64. When I found out he was a 'phobe I quit liking him

Then I found out he is an apologist (and maybe a believer) for holocaust denial, is a misogynist ,a nd a religious whack-job. So.... I won't even watch Mad Max any more... hate him.

[cynatnite]

94. He had a church built by his house...

he thinks mass should be done a certain way and set it up just so. I don't get one thing though. Conserv christians luv the passion movie he did and think he's so damn great for it, but most of those think catholicism is a cult or just plain wrong. :shrug:

[porphyrian]

104. Yeah, he's in some kind of Catholic-offshoot cult.

His father was some kind anti-Semitic fascist asshole, too. I don't give the fucker any money after his responses when questioned about Passion.

[wtmusic]

5. Malkovich

great actor, I just refuse to help feed the pig.

[leftchick]

47. he is a repuke??

omg! I didn't know that!

[wtmusic]

69. He threatened to shoot George Galloway and Robert Fisk in 2002

http://www.rsf.org/print.php3?id_article=2291

[firefox]

6. Dennis Miller

It is more that he is not funny and the fact that he is not on anything to see him anyhow. He talked me out of Net Zero though.

[tlsmith1963]

55. I Am Really Disappointed in Dennis

I liked him on SNL, but he turned into a total neocon. And he is smart, too. You think he would know better.

Tammy

[lildreamer316]

78. He got scared

and ran to the other side in a frenzy. Now he is schilling for Net Zero; something he would not have been caught dead doing when he was more liberal leaning. He said something to the effect of being scared one time on his now-cancelled show the CNBC? one I think.

[NightHawk63]

80. I agree on Den Den.

I have to even fast forward through those damn NetZero commercials. Just can't stand to look at him anymore.

[sepia_steel]

96. He really is soooo unfunny

my hubby and i sat thru one of his shows and we both felt kind of sorry for him. How things have changed.

[porphyrian]

106. Fuck Dennis Miller, the turncoat coward.

I guess being a failed genius sportscaster puts the metaphorical fascist cock in your mouth.

[devilgrrl]

7. Arnold Schwartzenegger

And to think that 'Total Recall' used to be one of my favorite Sci-fi flicks.

[cloud_chaser1]

8. Ahhhhhhhhhnold, the Governator.

The man is beyond belief.

[Horse with no Name]

9. I don't refuse to watch--however, when presented with choices

I will opt out of watching them for political reasons.

1. Arnold
2. Ron Silver
3. Patricia Heaton

I also won't shop at Albertson's.
I don't care if it seems petty...but I think hacks like these are a danger to the welfare of our country and their rhetoric enables a crime family to flourish.

[fudge stripe cookays]

44. Me too.

But I'll add Kelsey Grammer, Bruce Willis and Ted Nugent to the list.

FSC

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Mel, Arnie, Heston, pretty much coverd already

[TahitiNut]

11. Jane Fonda

Sue me. :shrug: I've added Schwartzenegger to that list.

[unsavedtrash]

12. Tom Selleck, Charlton Heston, Mel Gibson, Dennis Miller

[SiouxJ]

67. Selleck & Heston

Can't stand them. I always have to flip real fast past Magnum PI when it airs late at night. Sorta like I do Faux News. ;)

[Montauk6]

13. I couldn't help but giggle at Ron Silver's creepy overacting on West Wing

It's like, "hey, Ronnie, tone it down, will ya???"

I won't listen to any right-wing talk shows (believe me, all those who would chide me for not considering other viewpoints, when I was "in the life," I got MORE than my fill of these folks).

I will only listen to Phil Hendrie shows prior to 2000 when he was FUNNY! Before he jumped on the BFEE tit.

Although I have seen it in its entirety already, I refuse to again watch "The Birth Of A Nation."

[cynatnite]

17. I watched 'Birth of a Nation' once...

It was shocking when I watched it, but it was interesting to note the techniques used really broke ground in film-making.

Other than that, it was the most offensive and overtly racist movie I have ever seen in my life.

[really annoyed]

37. It's Interesting

D.W. Griffith, the director of "Birth of a Nation," made a movie called "Intolerance: Love's Struggle Through the Ages." The movie was about "intolerance and it's effects throughout the ages."

You can read more about it here:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0006864/

[NYCGirl]

74. Also interesting is Griffith's "Broken Blossoms", a very tender love

story between an Oriental man and a Caucasian woman. Many think this is Griffith's best film.

http://www.filmsite.org/brok.html

Edited to fix troublesome link.

[really annoyed]

107. I think I've seen part of it

I remember seeing the movie way back on TCM. When I followed the link, I recognized the movie. I didn't watch all of it though.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

49. It really ticked me off to see him on the West Wing because I now try to

avoid Silver like the plague.

[longship]

14. Mel Gibson

I do not like the clam bakers --> Tom Cruise, John Revolta

That nazi Chalton Heston

Celebrity interviews generally do not interest me. I'd make exceptions for political interviews.

[TaleWgnDg]

18. Anyone who believes what flows from a so-called "celebrity's" . . .

.
Anyone who believes what flows from a so-called "celebrity's" . . . mouth has more weight, more value than your next-door-neighbor, is delusional.



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[expatriot]

21. audience. it is all about audience. people are influenced by the stars.

look at the checkout lane of the grocery store.

[cynatnite]

19. I can barely watch Mel anymore...

I was a huge fan of his before that movie of his.

I dumped all the Ahhnold movies except for one. He jumped the shark for me when he vetoed the gay marriage bill.

I used to be a huge fan of Heston. I loved those big budget epic movies. Ten Commandments and Ben Hur were great. I love epics, except for Titanic. That movie sucked.

Anyway, after the whole NRA thing I just can't stomach to even watch his old stuff.

[O.M.B.inOhio]

56. But in Ben Hur, the joke's on Chuck!

Gore Vidal (uncredited writer) says they never told Heston about the homosexual subtext. It's a riot to see him so earnest and so clueless.

[cynatnite]

58. I remember reading that...

I thought it was hilarious and looking at the movie it seemed to me there was something more than just friends with Judah and Marcellus. Makes you wonder what Chuck thinks about it now. :rofl:

[expatriot]

20. Toby Keith and J-Lo are the two I hate most. nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

51. J-Lo is a repuke? That's a shame. n/t

[expatriot]

66. I don't know if she is a repug but i am ideologically opposed

to her none the less. Check out the site below. She is the queen of fur. She is probably the single-greatest factor in the returning popularity of the fur industry, it is a staple of her clothing line, etc.

http://www.jlodown.com/index.asp?c=1237

[tuvor]

22. I don't vote based on how well a politician entertains me.

And unless it's part of their repertoire, I don't make entertainment choices based on an entertainer's political beliefs.

[expatriot]

24. if it is their private beliefs, sure.. but if they are a public advocate

of a certain "cause" that is antithetical to my beliefs, I will deny them any royalties from me. Nor I will help them expand their audience. They may have talent and HItler was a genius, I can do without just fine.


The line between performer and politician blurs. "Stars" have audiences that politicians dream of and they spout their beliefs, people are listening more closely.

[DanCa]

23. Chuck Norris

I am really disappointed in Drew Carrey as well. You can put in Raymond in there too. Oh and Frazier and Arnie basically anyone who pals around with Hannity. Oh I also stopped watching wrestling when it got too right wing.

[degreesofgray]

27. when was wrestling

anything but right wing?

I'm sure there are plenty of celebs I would disagree with, but I see no point in boycotting them for their political views. It's bad when those on our side get punished for their views (Dixie Chicks, anyone?), and vice versa.

One person I don't like, however, is Tom Cruise. And though I've seen plenty of his films, I've always thought he was a lousy actor, well before any of his couch-jumping lunacy on Oprah.

[DanCa]

33. Thanks for the food for thought.

I ll give what you said consideration.

[Pushed To The Left]

38. Wrestling was more right-wing in the 80's

It doesn't seem nearly as right-wing these days to me. Of course, I've been addicted to pro wrestling for over 20 years now, so I'm a little biased.:)

[DanCa]

102. Well i was younger in the 80's

and not as polliticaly aware. :D I miss those days.

[ozarkvet]

105. Drew Carrey

Is a self-described Libertarian.

Which has SOME liberal appeal.

[Neil Lisst]

26. I won't watch because of political reasons

Charlton Heston
Ron Silver
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[TheWraith]

43. Have you seen "The West Wing" lately?

A few years ago, they had Ron Silver play a recurring role as Bruno Gianelli, a campaign consultant hired for Bartlett's reelection bid. Now that they're in the middle of another campaign, the writers have brought back Bruno Gianelli--working for the Republican candidate. Given his nutty party swap, I find it highly amusing.

Although even more amusing is Alan Alda as the Republican himself. When he went on the Daily Show, Jon Stewart asked him about that dichotomy: being something of a liberal activist and playing a Republican. Alda responded with something along the lines of "Republicans are every bit as capable of creating great ideas--they just don't actually do it."

[Neil Lisst]

46. I don't watch the West Wing. Sorry.

It's just too inside-the-beltway for me. There is no place in the US where you will find more smug, self-satisfied people than among the Congress, the White House, and the EOB.

Don't get me started on them. Both sides of the aisle, they're insufferable. Hangers-on of the first order.


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[truebrit71]

93. Ron's character is true to life...he is the West Wing's Dick Morris...

...and Josh looked like he wanted to punch him square in the face in the most recent episode...

I think the writers are setting Silver's character up for a big fall...

[autorank]

28. Mel Gibson...because he's a kook. After that, I don't if I don't like the

m I will if I do, regardless of politics.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

30. None for political reasons

If a celeb went out and started advocating genocide or something then I would boycott them.

[Seabiscuit]

31. Won't watch any of the actors listed in this thread except Jane Fonda.

[Piperay]

36. Same here cause

I don't find them entertaining once I know that they nitwits. :silly:

[Seabiscuit]

39. There are far better actors out there anyway. I'm not missing much.

[rpannier]

32. None

I don't allow myself to be influenced by their politics. I think that's childish. I like many of Arnies movies, some of Mel's and Bruce's and a couple of Sly's. So, I'll watch them.

[jody]

34. Jane Fonda, Arnold Schwartzenegger, Charlton Heston n/t

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[KansDem]

70. Interesting. Those would be some of my picks as well...

I've never watched a Jane Fonda movie by choice; not because of her anti-war activities during Vietnam, but because she came to embrace the very system she denounced: capitalism. Not that I'm anti-capitalism, but I just feel her conversion was a bit too "swift and convenient." Also, she looks goofy doing the "Tomahawk Chop" (makes her concern for exploited peoples look a bit hypocritical).

My rabid right-wing uncle, a retire Air-Force general, also won't watch Jane Fonda movies, but for very different reasons. It's the only thing we agree on...the only thing.

I'll watch the work of Clint Eastwood before I watch a Jane Fonda movie...

[Bridget Burke]

40. Not actually "refuse"....

Never cared much for Schwarzenegger, care for him even less now.

Charlton Heston was never a great actor, but I'll occasionally watch one of the epics. The NRA took advantage of his incipient dementia.

I NEVER liked Dennis Miller.

Ron Silver was in "Reversal of Fortune" with Glenn Close & Jeremy Irons. That's a sick, sick movie & I'll gladly watch it again!

I object to Lee Greenwood on aesthetic grounds.

Crossing someone off my list because I "hear" they are Republican? Nope.

[TheWraith]

42. None at all.

I mean, I avoid people like Dennis Miller, Ahnold, John Travolta, Tom Cruise, et al whenever possible. But that really has nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with the fact that they suck, are not entertaining, and several of them are crazy to boot.

[beingthere]

45. do you mean

in addition to those i refuse to watch because they're lousy performers and/or obnoxious?

[Mutley]

48. None.

With the exception of Charleton Heston, because it just makes me nauseous to look at him, there is no one I won't watch for political reasons alone.

[in_cog_ni_to]

50. Ahhhhnold, Mel Gibson, Bruce Willis, any Disney movie/show, Heston,

Patricia Heaton (Everybody Loves Raymond..involved in the Teri Schiavo crap), Dennis Miller, Charlie Daniels, Kevin Costner and I'm sure there's more I can't think of right now. :)

on edit...RON SILVER. It makes me SICK that he's on West Wing. :puke: bastard.

[Walt Starr]

52. None

I try to seperate the artist from the art.

[LWolf]

53. None but one.

Ahnold.

It used to be none. I'm not much of a "celeb" watcher, anyway. I go to 3-4 movies each year, watch almost no tv, only listen to npr, and have never heard of 99.9% of new, modern musicians.

As a former Californian, I will not give air time or space to the governator again.

[bryant69]

59. None

I hold doing that violates the principle of free speech.

Now, I don't go see Charlton Heston movies (or rent them) but that's just because I don't like him too much as an actor.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[baldguy]

60. I don't look to entertainers for political opinions.

If they have something thoughtful to say, I'll listen - and look upon them with a little more respect. If they open their mouth to say something stupid, I'll tend to ignore & dismiss everything else they say. But this process isn't limited to celebrities.

Of course, those that are thoughtful tend to be liberals; those that are stupid tend to be conservatives.

[MildyRules]

61. None

I don't give a rat's ass about their politics as long as they entertain me.

[newportdadde]

62. David Worley('vow to get the ones behind Bin Laden' - have you forgotten)

Followed by Patrica Heaton and Toby Keith

[Zapatero]

65. Ron Silver

The Man has gone nuts with neo con love

[jobycom]

77. He's still alive?

I haven't seen or heard from him since he did that dog "Blue Steel" with Jamie Lee Curtis. I figured he'd moved on to the fast food industry by now. I'll bet more people would recognize Will Pitt's name than his.

I wouldn't think that political views would have to be considered when deciding not to watch him.

[Toots]

71. Drew Carey, Heston, Schwartznegger, Dennis Miller, Nugent, Charlie Daniels

Any that actively advocate for Republican Agenda of Division, Poverty and War.

[bertha katzenengel]

72. None.

I don't seek entertainment based on politics.

[Qanisqineq]

73. Charlton Heston and John Wayne

Heston -- ugh, gives me the shivers

Wayne -- he just seems like he was a repuke when he was alive and I've heard he was a racist asshole. If I heard wrong, then I apologize to him wherever he is but I hate westerns so I wouldn't watch him anyway.

[julialnyc]

79. Patricia Heaton

She makes my skin crawl. Seeing her with Terry Schivo's family on Access Hollywood and shows like that (yes, I watch trash sometimes) was horrifying.

I love how a woman writes a book about the glory face lifts and boob jobs tries to tell me that they I'm the one that doesn't get it.

[Terran]

81. Drew Carey

That Bush-loving dumb-ass.

[stanwyck]

82. I have to question the "none" folks

I understand you just want to be entertained...so why should politics be part of the equation?
But. These days, with what we're facing in this country, it's just too important to subsidize -- with our money and support -- those who are ruining our country.
And they are destroying our country. America has been perverted with their distortions of our great constitution.
We've become a nation guided by liars and corporate whores. And the celebrities who repeat the hatespeak and propaganda are just foot soldiers for this regime.
So. I question those answering "none".
(note: I'm not suggesting the rightwing celebrities be rounded up into camps (although that is tempting -- in Nugent's case). Or blacklisting. I'm just questioning giving your hard earned money to a person who uses that money to back conservative causes).

[HuskerDU]

83. I think that it's interesting that Charlie Daniels and Ted

Nugent are listed so many times. Would any of you listen to their music if they were liberals? Daniels song 'Uneasy Rider' may be one of the best lib leaning songs ever written. It is the tale of a long-hair on his journey through the conservative/redneck south. Sure, Charlie has done a 180, but it doesn't eliminate what a great song 'Uneasy Rider' is.

And Ted Nugent sang 'Great White Buffalo' about how the Indians used every part of the buffalo while the 'white dogs' just slaughtered them for fun. Great song who's message I'm sure most DUers would agree with.

They both may be foaming-at-the-mouth neocons now, but Daniels and Nugent have contributed great art in the past. In fact, one could argue that the quality of their art has gone down since they've fully become dark-siders.

[wtmusic]

84. Still listen to it, just won't buy it

I love that myth about the Indians and buffalo:

"The Indian needed food,
he needed skins for a roof.
But he only took what they needed,baby.
Millions of buffalo were the proof."

The Indians only took what they needed for two reasons:

1) Wasting resources would have guaranteed their own demise
2) They had limited access to guns and ammunition

Indians were no more "conservationist" than white people would have been under the same circumstances. It's called survival.

[thebigidea]

89. Ted Nugent? Great art?

in a black velvet clown painting sense, I guess.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

99. That's really unfair to black velvet clown paintings.

:evilgrin:

[stanwyck]

98. great art

from Charlie Daniels and Ted Nugent.
Wow.
Now that's hyperbole.
You're in Harriet's range now..."Bush is the most brilliant man I ever met."

[AZBlue]

85. I won't read Patricia Cornwell books anymore.

She's a close and personal friend of the Bushes and donates a lot of money to them.

Which does suck because I really liked her books! But, by buying her book I'm helping her donate to Bush & Co, which I just can't stomach.

[Mike Daniels]

87. I spend my money based on whether I like the product vs. the politics

There are a lot of artists who probably share my views who I'll never spend a dime on because my artistic preferences and their performance styles/choice are incompatible.

And to be honest, even if I agree with an artist politically, it doesn't mean I want to hear them spout off during a performance. This goes double if their material isn't generally political in nature.

Flame me if you want, but I've been to concerts where the performer is saying something that I'm totally in agreement with politically and I'm still tempted to to yell "Shut up and sing!!!" as I paid my money to hear the artist perform music, not lecture me and the audience.

[Mike Daniels]

88. I spend my money based on whether I like the product vs. the politics

There are a lot of artists who probably share my views who I'll never spend a dime on because my artistic preferences and their performance styles/choice are incompatible.

And to be honest, even if I agree with an artist politically, it doesn't mean I want to hear them spout off during a performance. This goes double if their material isn't generally political in nature.

Flame me if you want, but I've been to concerts where the performer is saying something that I'm totally in agreement with politically and I'm still tempted to to yell "Shut up and sing!!!" as I paid my money to hear the artist perform music, not lecture me and the audience.

[truebrit71]

90. Dennis Miller, Ron Silver, Nugent, just about any country singer,

..Bruce Willis, Tom Sellek, The Gropinator, Hillary Duff (this is more for my teenage daughter than anything else, Hillary is a repuke, she supports bush and therefore will not be seen or heard in my house)...it goes without saying that the mental midget of all mental midgets, Britney Spears is absolutely friggin' banned in my house, but that's for so many different infringements of which her republicanism is but one...

Oh! Oh, I forgot, that fundie nutcase Patricia Heaton...she played a shrill, over-bearing woman on TV, as well as pretending to be Ray Romano's wife... ;-)

[AlCzervik]

91. The rw celebs that i know of make nothing i want to see at all even if

i didn't know their political ideology.

[sepia_steel]

95. as a Californian

I HATE it when Governator movies are on cable. Flip! Click!
yesterday I flipped past him as that ice guy on Batman. I feel so embarassed.

[Catchawave]

97. Bo Derek

That is, is she still a celebrity ? ::groan::

[Finder]

101. This thread is shocking...

Not to mention some of the people called neocons are far from it. Libertarian is more like it in the case of Nugent, Miller etc...

As someone else said..boycotting is rather freeperish.