Imus: Pat Buchanan's Plan for SCOTUS...and New RW talking point

[AnnInLa]

Pat is advocating that Miers be withdrawn as nominee, to be replaced by Ashcroft. If not Ashcroft, then Owen or Luttig. He said that with 55 puke Senators, and a few Dems who are vulnerable, it would be a win for the puke party and the pres. He was serious about Ashcroft....good grief. Also said that rove "worked" Dobson for 3 hours and "turned him around" to support Miers. Said confirmation hearings will come in late Nov and early Dec. Pat thinks the pukes may lost the Senate, but not the House. Mentioned that pukes are having trouble finding candidates who will run for natl'l office. Wants Ronnie Earle put "behind bars."

OH MY...Pat is using the NEW RW TALKING POINT: Ronnie Earle is trying to "Criminalize Politics." Please watch for this new talking point. Bill Krisol used it the other day, and others since then. This talking poiint was first tried during the Iran Contra scandal, and they are trotting it out again. Everything is just politics, but Earle and Fitzgerald are just criminalizing normal activities.

[displacedtexan]

1. Pat was also left unchallenged in an outright lie.

A felony is a felony... whether it concerns "election laws" (which haven't taken effect yet) or not.

Imus is too damned dumb to know what's what.

[H2O Man]

2. New RW Talking Point:

You are so right ... I have heard that a number of times. We need a quick come-back, which shows that the Bush administration criminalized politics just like the Nixon administratyion did. The "Nixonization of politics"?

[Tesla]

4. I swear!!!!

I heard a few weeks ago that pRez was going to nominate Buchanan for SC!!
Then Miers came from nowhere!!!

I'm taking bets!!!!!

[phiddle]

9. "We have to get Criminals out of Politics" (?)

[Walt Starr]

11. The politicizing of crime

Republians are politicizing crime. Not the other way around.

[Francine Frensky]

14. Let's take republican criminals out of politics

america deserves better than to have criminals in office.
and aiding those in office.

[jimshoes]

18. How about..

It's time we get the criminals out of politics. Let them know straight out that their talking point is invalid because that's is what politics has become. A criminal enterprise with *co.
(I should have read all the replies before responding, but it's true)

[orwell]

27. How about...

..."criminalize crime."

[emulatorloo]

29. Seems like Pat got this from Tom Oliphant yesterday on Hardballs

Tom "as a liberal" was so concerned that Fitz was "criminalizing politics." Basically I don't think Oliphant has kept up on the case. . .

Too bad he has to provide them w a new talking point.

[pearl]

3. I heard that too

"criminalize politics"

Our response: Hey, You people raised the criminalizing
of politics to an art form,
shut the fuck up

or You people have perverted the rule of law

[Skidmore]

5. Something just occurred to me. Ashcroft is hated by the

majority of Americans. Appeal is to the RR. What if by proposing Ashcroft as te alternative, they are trying to make Harriet seem like a moderate and that the Senate will jump all over the opportunity to keep her.

Buchanan wasn't the only one spouting that crap about criminalizing politics. Last night, Tweety was trying to sell that.

[Neil Lisst]

6. Count how many times you hear "criminalization of politics" today

I posted less than an hour ago that this will be the term of the day.

Criminalization of politics.

Recall that this is a case about outing a CIA operative for political gain and revenge. Yeah, it's the criminalizing that Rove has been doing for 30 years.


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[radfringe]

7. if you want to DECRIMINALIZE POLITICS

then get rid of the criminals...

DDT - DUMP DELAY TODAY

[Walt Starr]

8. Republicans are Politicizing Crime

Easy response to their stupid talking point.

[Ganja Ninja]

10. Crooked Republicans criminalized politics by being criminals.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

[vi5]

12. Sorry, but people watch or listen to Imus...

deserve to be annoyed and disgusted. He's always has and always will be an idiot. You know what you're getting into when you turn that crap on.

[AnnInLa]

13. Some people watch Imus for several reasons

Can't stand local early-morning shows. Can't stand CNN. Can't stand the idiots who phone in on C-Span. Can't stand the ego-maniac, Imus, either, but am interested in hearing his guests who phone in. For some unfathomable reason, Imus gets good phone-in guests who really kiss his butt and flatter the hell out of him. I just tune that part out and listen to what they are spouting that day...they are a good indication of what's coming, politically, for the day.

[vi5]

16. As horrible as all those other things are....

I'd still rather suffer through them then watch that 10th rate Howard Stern wannabe get treated as some sort of serious political pundit by politicians who should know better. To each their own though.

[Neil Lisst]

15. IMUS in the morning has great inteviews

Imus has great interviews of journalists, who seem to convey more information by phone than when they are on TV. Like Andrea Mitchell, David Gregory, and Howard Fineman.

It's got more useful political information than anything else on TV at that time.

Speaking of IMUS, here's your favorite guy:
http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst/

[TacticalPeek]

17. "Criminalize Politics?"

The next thing you know, they'll be making a federal case out of a blowjob.

(As another DUer put it.)

[triguy46]

20. "politics IS the refuge for soundrels." n/t

[maine_raptor]

23. Bows politely

"Twas Me. TacticalPeek, and I thank you"

[triguy46]

19. I think he needs his meds adjusted. n/t

[Daphne08]

21. ASHCROFT?

He's got to be kidding!

[Gman]

22. "criminalize politics" is an oxymoron!

should be our response!

[Armstead]

24. I hate to say it but I agree with him partially

I'm NOT defending Delay or the rest of them. They deserve it.

However, in a larger sense, it is unfortunate and bad for democracy when being involved in politics gets tied up too closely with criminal persecution.

Clinton was also a victim of the criminalization of politics. His business dealings from years earlier and his current infidelities would have been ignored were it not for his political role.

The problem when these things go too far is that only people who are"blank slates" or saints or pathological will be willing to get involved in public life. Normal fallible mortals will stay away.

[Nimrod2005]

25. Ass-Croft? What a nightmare...

I ay bring'em on, he will be defeated. Mnay in their own party know he is a Nazi.

[AnnInLa]

26. Then, Howard Fineman said

that he has a source close to the Fitzgerald/rove investigation, (doesn't everyone?) who said that BOTH libbie and rove would be indicted. Damn, is that all? Hopefully more than just 2.

[H2O Man]

28. Ari Fleischer

is being indicted, too. Keep in mind that this is just the opening of the indictment phase. People are able to recall things after being indicted that just slip their minds when they are being investigated. I expect Karl's conscious mind to be filled with repressed memories of Dick Cheney giving direction to the conspiracy to marginalize Wilson and compromise Plame.