Tesha
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Tue Oct-11-05 06:35 AM
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"Sylvia" nails the *REAL* reason why some want Clinton back |
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"Sylvia" nails the *REAL* reason why some want Clinton back: http://www.ucomics.com/sylvia/2005/10/11/Tesha
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Tue Oct-11-05 06:38 AM
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1. Is that about Clinton? |
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Or early Bush? early Bush could never admit a mistake; Clinton did admit mistakes and weaknesses on occasion. Bryant Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Tue Oct-11-05 06:41 AM
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Tue Oct-11-05 06:42 AM
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I think the point of the cartoon is about Bush true believers, who certainly would like to go back to before their hero had feet of clay.
But obviously I'd rather have Clinton back.
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Tue Oct-11-05 06:50 AM
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5. My take, on all counts. n/t |
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Tue Oct-11-05 06:51 AM
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6. bush was NEVER A GOOD LEADER |
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Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 06:53 AM by Skittles
but you could be correct
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Tue Oct-11-05 06:56 AM
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7. There is no implication that Bush was a good leader made in the ... |
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... cartoon.
The cartoonm seems to mock the "kool aide" induced desires of Chimp supporters. (IMO)
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Tue Oct-11-05 09:03 AM
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20. Bush isn't even a good liar! |
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:16 AM
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8. I agree that it could be taken either way. |
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But I think the sub-rosa context is Clinton, even if the President the woman wants back is the Blustering Bush.
Tesha
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:53 AM
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18. No, it can't be taken either way |
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Clinton wasn't into denial the way Bush has always been--not even close. The only things he ever denied doing was stupid BS like inhaling marijuana and getting a blowjob, not the important stuff.
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Tue Oct-11-05 06:50 AM
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4. Is this kind of like a left-handed compliment??? n/t |
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:24 AM
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This is all about bush.....
"You want your old pResident back, the one who believed his own stories. . . "Bring back denial department".
How could you possibly think this was about Clinton?
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:27 AM
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10. Clinton also believed his lies. |
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"I did not have sex with that woman!"
Tesha
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:56 AM
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12. THAT was nobody's f***ing business |
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lying to get us into wars IS
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:23 AM
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We all lie. That's a small and human lie about something that is none of our business. We all have the right to obfuscate for that.
Bush lies constantly and egregiously about extremely important things. And you're suggesting one is equal to the other?
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:31 AM
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15. No I'm suggesting that... |
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> And you're suggesting one is equal to the other?
No, I'm suggesting that a President who gets caught in a casual (and stupid) lie, *THEREBY DISABLING HIMSELF AND HIS ENTIRE PARTY FOR THE NEXT DECADE OR SO BY HANDING HIS ENEMIES ALL THE AMMUNITION THEY NEED TO DEMOLISH HIM* wasn't really the best friend of progressives.
Bush has thousands of allies willing to lay waste to their honor and reputations in order to defend his lies.
Clinton had thousands of enemies just waiting to pounce on his every lie and peccadilo and he knew this and he lied anyway.
Tesha
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:49 AM
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16. Clinton is a far better friend to human beings than Bush is |
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Progressive or not (and Clinton was actually conservative more than not), he at least held basic values that all Americans share. I don't care who he was playing pass the cigar with, I care that 70% of the American public didn't give a damn the day after he was impeached. That's what the regressives can't stand. MOST people understand the fine distinctions that so-called "conservatives" don't seem able to comprehend.
Bill Clinton might have been a low-grade demon, but Bush is the Devil himself. That's the difference.
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Tue Oct-11-05 09:42 AM
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he was PARSING semantically - there's a big diff.
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:36 AM
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11. It's obviously about Bush. |
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I was a little puzzled when I read the subject, and then the cartoon. I was looking for one more panel that had something to do with Clinton. It's Bush.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:21 AM
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13. the "old" President in the last panel means Bush, not Clinton |
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As if some miracle COULD occur and Clinton could return to office... We can only dream unfortunately.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:51 AM
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17. That comic has nothing to do with Clinton. |
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:55 AM
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19. I agree; not about Clinton at all (nt) |
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Tue Oct-11-05 10:02 AM
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22. This is about bush, not Clinton |
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There is nothing here to even remotely indicate Clinton is part of this at all. It is a good one about bush and his kool-aid followers and wanting the 'old' false bush instead of the 'new' false bush.
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Tue Oct-11-05 10:09 AM
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23. Clinton? I can't read him into that one at all... |
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The "old president" is referring to the "infallible" Bush, the one who couldn't think of any mistakes (remember that classic press conference?) he'd made, who "believed his own stories" i.e., things are going good in Iraq, the economy is booming etc... As opposed to the new president who has to take responsibility since things are so bad "even he has to admit it."
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Tue Oct-11-05 10:18 AM
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24. Nope, it's not about Clinton.... |
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The "old" president is Bush who was always right--that was infuriating. But events have sprung a leak in his 100% obliviousness--like a hole in a neglected levee.
Some of us don't blame Clinton.
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