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Tue Oct-11-05 07:16 AM
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The man who was beaten in NO is on GMA right now |
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He said he was taken by complete surprised. He heard a woman screaming "the man didn't do anything! Stop!" and he heard the cops yell at her to move away.
He was walking around a police horse and his back was to the cops that grabbed him and from there, it all happened so fast he couldn't quite comprehend what was suddenly going on. He hasn't seen the tapes yet. His family kept him away from the tv because they didn't want him to see it.
HE JUST SAID HE DOESN'T DRINK! HE HASN'T HAD A DRINK IN OVER 25 YEARS!
When asked if he resisted arrest, he responded with "how can you resist arrest when you suddenly get sucker punched, thrown to the ground and choked?"
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:18 AM
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1. Well, something happened that caused 3 cops to go after him. NT |
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:26 AM
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2. He asked the cop on horseback a question about curfew. |
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Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 07:29 AM by Connie_Corleone
Another cop came up to him and started cussing him out. The man told the cop he was being unprofessional. After he finished his conversation with the cop on horseback, he turned around and went across the street. Then someone hit him from behind.
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:39 AM
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11. Sounds to me like this was the trigger |
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Cops ego went off about the unproffesional comment. They are going to have a lot of time to think about just how right the guy was while sitting in jail.
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Tue Oct-11-05 09:15 AM
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42. "You want unprofessional? |
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I'll show you unprofessional!"
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:30 AM
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4. Yea the entire AP crew was all probably breaking the law in some way also |
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Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 07:44 AM by NNN0LHI
Otherwise the cops wouldn't have been beating the fuck out of them too. Right?
Don
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:33 AM
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why else would the NOLA PD go after them? :sarcasm:
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:36 AM
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8. I've heard a lot of cops are crazy because they take steroids. eom |
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:41 AM
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13. I don't think this situation needed steroids |
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Recent events in NOLA have the cops pretty well wound up. Its a powder keg down there I would imagine.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:07 AM
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28. I don't know... Baby Huey there surely looked like he was 'roiding. |
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I imagine the populace is a little more wound up then the white cops who engaged in the beating.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:01 AM
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23. All the articles say the cops are stressed out and that race |
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:05 AM
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27. Yeah I Love How The Media Is Covering For These Thugs. |
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Quite a juxtaposition when compared with their disdain for the "looters". Looks like everyone in NOLA should get a pass then. ...right?
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:09 AM
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29. It's such a kneejerk for them and THE PRESS themselves |
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were victims in this incident!
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:15 AM
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33. I'm Not Too Sure About The Knee-jerk Part. |
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This seems to be carefully crafted. I watched the Abrams Report (don't ask)last-night while they floated this turd. They slowly worked up to it with a statement from this doctor and the esteemed :eyes: panel until all the sudden they were exonerated. All without a single mention of the obvious hypocrisy they were displaying. Carefully thought out and planned in my book.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:11 AM
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30. people sittin in a flood watching bodies go by, no one to |
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rescue them or bring them the basics like food or water were pretty stressed out i bet. and what did media do with the victims that didnt appropriately preform to protocol? tore them apart. the worst of humanity. how dare the not act in a civilized manner,...... under all that stress
cops are under stress? so where those trying to survive the flood and chaos
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:22 AM
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And we still don't know what happened in NO.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:11 AM
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31. I'm so tired of the "race was not the issue" bullshit |
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I can buy the argument that they're stressed but they unleashed a world of hurt on a man who did not look like them, did not look like their friends or their family members. Would they have been this brutal to a white man? Do we really want to kid ourselves into pretending that they would?
I'm tired of skirting around the issue of race in this country. I thought we would have an honest conversation after Katrina but it never fully surfaced. Now this. How much unnecessary violence and death must be thrown into our faces before we admit that racism is still a major problem in America?
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:20 AM
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37. I know. This is the new mantra, what people use |
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not to address racism.
My husband spoke at the wake of a friend, and he was the only one who mentioned the racism our friend endured. It was just uncanny.
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Tue Oct-11-05 09:06 AM
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41. Race is NEVER an issue in America |
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Race is NEVER an issue in America Race is NEVER an issue in America Race is NEVER an issue in America Race is NEVER an issue in America Race is NEVER an issue in America Race is NEVER an issue in America Race is NEVER an issue in America Race is NEVER an issue in America
Hypnotized yet?
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:30 AM
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5. And beat a man while he is down? |
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They could have easily broke his hip with that leg twisting.
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:33 AM
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7. unless he had a gun and was firing at the cops... |
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I can't think of anything he could have done or said to warrant such an abuse of power.
Could you imagine if this was your family member?
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:36 AM
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9. riiiiight. the police never mistakenly beat innocent people. |
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and I have some swampland to sell you.
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:40 AM
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Just making stuff up?
Or do you believe all NO cops are fine upstanding defenders of the law who would never beat the shit out of someone for no reason?
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:53 AM
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18. Inspector Javert, is that YOU? |
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:58 AM
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Please, like cops have NEVER beat up people who don't deserve it -- blacks, whites, protesters, etc. I dated a cop for three years -- I know how some of them are. To some of them, doing this is better than sex to them.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:13 AM
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32. Damn straight! Never under estimate the power of an adrenaline rush. |
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Its crack for the control freaks in the world, and sadly some cops are control freaks of the worst kind.
I think Crawfords local Law Enforcemnet could give a few of these nuts some lessons. That police force was really the most understanding and empathetic that I had ever seen, anywhere.
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:27 AM
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3. On CNN, Miles O'Brien ... |
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when speaking to the police association representative ... pointed out that he (Miles) could not envision any situation that "could" have occurred off camera that would justify the horrific abuse suffered by that man.
Witness to the events immediately prior to the attack and during seem to be at a loss for what could have precipitated such an attack.
Certainly it is possible that the victim said something out of line ... but a verbal insult (which appears unlikely that the victim even did that) never justifies such a violent attack.
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Wed Oct-12-05 12:18 AM
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I'm sure this will be trotted out....of course this elderly man who hasn't had a drink in 25 years deserved a Bourbon St. beatdown from NO's finest.
Don't believe your lying eyes. Three young, in-shape white cops had to beat the shit out of that elderly black man. I mean, isn't it obvious he was a threat?
I hope he told one of them that he fucked one of their girlfriends/wives the night before and he wanted a refund...that would've justified the beating that poor man endured. And "resisting arrest?" Give me a fucking break....some maniac attacks me without provocation, be they transient or police officer, I'm definitely putting up some fucking resistance.
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:39 AM
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10. These cops need to be sent to Abu Ghraib. |
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:46 AM
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There's just no excuse for this one, and it's on tape. But then again, sometimes videotaped police beatings of black men still don't result in justice!
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:47 AM
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15. The 2 plain clothes goons that the media never mentions any more too n/t |
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:03 AM
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And, AP has scrubbed one of the stories that talked about 300 missing cops. I went back to check. The sentence is gone.
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:50 AM
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16. Could the cops be suffering from PTSD? |
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Could the stress over what happened with Katrina be the reason behind this horrible beating? These cops attacked this man in front of people for what seems like no reason whatsoever. Men over the edge or just a group of assholes who got caught?
For whatever the reason for their abusive behavior, I hope they get psychological help on top of their punishment. I also hope the victim and his family find peace.
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:54 AM
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19. assholes who got caught. |
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frankly, we only hear about police beatings IF someone happens to get it on tape...and even then the police deny it. They happen all the time to people of color.
I used to live in Los Angeles, before the Rodney King beating, and knew hispanic people and african american people...not criminals, normal citizens. EVERY person of color I knew had a police brutality story they themselves witnessed. And I only knew a handful.
But they never did anything about it, because WITHOUT a camera, its the citizen's word against the cops. In a court, guess who wins?
you better believe it: without the footage, nothing would even be getting talked about at this point.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:00 AM
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22. Very true. unfortunately. |
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The first thought I had when I first saw the video of this particular beating was "how many times is this happening all across this country that I don't know about?" I also get angry knowing that this makes it even harder for the cops who don't go around beating the citizens they swore to protect.
Someone in a different thread suggested that police academies start doing better psych testing to (hopefully) prevent this crap from happening. I think this is a good idea.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:05 AM
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and it's been going on for decades.
However, without pictures or video, it didn't happen.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:03 AM
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25. Lots of folks have PTSD |
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They would never stoop to this level.
No, these cops have BFVPS
BIG FAT VIOLENT PIG SYNDROME
They are sick wackos who enjoy hurting others. Welcome to your system of American Justice. These are the kinds of guys in law enforcement these days, the kind running prisons.
It makes me so thankful to know good cops who would never exhibit this vile, hate-filled, out-of-control behavior.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:20 AM
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36. Good cop bad cop... I feel ya. Just remember Crawford and how good and |
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sincere they were with us down there for the most part.
I despise about a fourth to a third of this countries police forces (my estimate of how many are corrupt or just violent minded jerks), and I wish fervently that the rest of them would step up and get rid of these betrayers of law and order. They would just get threatened or killed.. though, I guess.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:24 AM
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39. The Crawford Police were absolutely wonderful |
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I feel for all the good cops out there in times like this. The bad ones make it so much harder for the good ones. So many do their job with honor and respect. The same can be said for soldiers too.
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Tue Oct-11-05 09:41 AM
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"These are the kinds of guys in law enforcement these days"
This has been going on forever. Read about Chicago, Cleveland, New York and many other police departments and their histories.
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Tue Oct-11-05 11:35 PM
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47. You're right, johnnie |
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But you would think that, in 2005, law enforcement might have evolved into a more humane endeavor.
Hopeless idealist, that's me. Wishing that some of my fellow humans understood the meaning of the word "mercy."
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Tue Oct-11-05 07:52 AM
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Maybe, but where are the NOPD cops getting the drugs?
Maybe I'm so naive or forgetful that it hasn't occurred to me that cops, like prisoners, can get anything they want through the back door.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:16 AM
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34. A friend of mine worked with one force for months |
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not as a cop but doing a film.
The substance abuse was rampant. Scary, isn't it, to have armed people walking around loaded and with that kind power.
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Tue Oct-11-05 09:01 AM
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It was the cops who were dealing the drugs.
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Tue Oct-11-05 08:17 AM
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35. CNN is interviewing him now. n/t |
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Tue Oct-11-05 09:38 AM
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43. I wonder if any of these police were ones who demanded women show their |
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breasts before rescue attempts would be made. :shrug: It seems they could be capable.
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Tue Oct-11-05 09:43 AM
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45. Sue the bastards. If he wasn't drunk then he was assaulted. |
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Tue Oct-11-05 11:00 AM
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46. I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this but... |
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Just once I'd like to see black cops beat the sh*t out of a white guy for a change. Why does it always have to be the other way around? I am sorry for saying this but I am mad right now.
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Wed Oct-12-05 12:09 AM
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48. If black cops had beaten a white guy |
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They'd all be fired on the spot, on trial faster than you could say 'Reginald Denny' and have their pictures on every MSM outlet like America's Most Wanted. Just guessin'.
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