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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:34 PM
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Can I Just Say That I Hate Rawstory Teaser Headlines.
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 12:35 PM by DistressedAmerican
They go up with no details and they always set of a flurry of speculation and rumor around here. Little of it well informed in the least. It is kind of a waste of time.

I open threads that sound promising about once a week to find out it is another Rawstory one liner.

I wish they'd just keep their mouths (or keyboards as the case may be) shut until they are ready to break the story.

I am the first to note that they usually come though with something worthwhile. They do good reporting. I just do not think the sensationalist teasers are particularly helpful to anyone.

Just saying...
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:39 PM
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1. And the story is usually disappointing. NT
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:44 PM
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8. Yep.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:41 PM
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2. I don't
Doesn't bother me a bit; I can wait.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:42 PM
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3. It builds suspense!
Does this mean I need to get a life? I find they are usually worth the wait.

That said, I am not a huge fan of teasers, either.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:42 PM
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4. I would be fine with it if they just put a name in the headline. nt
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:43 PM
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5. And usually it's already on MSM
or it's a press release and they make it sound like it's some sort of scoop.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:07 PM
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23. See, I was right - the story is now out
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 02:08 PM by OKNancy
was covered in Time Magazine Oct 5th
Here is a reference to the time article

http://mediachannel.org/blog/node/1306


The White House Looks To Improve Iraq News
Submitted by editor5 on October 5, 2005 - 2:32pm.
By MIKE ALLEN/WASHINGTON
Source: Time

The White House is embarking on a new effort to try to leaven the bleak accounts emerging from Iraq. Administration officials tell TIME that Steve Schmidt, counselor to Vice President Cheney and one of the White House's most aggressive strategists, will leave for Baghdad early this week to spend up to a month assessing media relations in the war zone. Back home, Cheney and President Bush will give major speeches this week on Iraq's Oct. 15 constitutional referendum. Administration officials say the addresses aim to define the terrorist insurgency as an enemy with a clear strategy, and to portray dire consequences if the U.S. were to withdraw. Vice President Cheney flies to Camp Lejeune, N.C., for a Monday rally with Marines, while President Bush motorcades to the Ronald Reagan Building on Thursday.

One of Schmidt's missions, administration officials say, is to determine whether the White House can take any logistical steps to help American reporters and other journalists to gather news at a time when it is often too dangerous for them to leave their compounds. The officials say Schmidt's trip is at the request of the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Khalizad, but is supported at the highest levels of the White House. "We want to see if there's a disconnect between what people in the United States are seeing on their televisions and in their newspapers, and the reality on the ground," a senior administration official said.

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:43 PM
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6. I've never seen RS report a falsehood but I've read a number
that fail to live up to the hype.

I agree that if you have the story you can at least present some journalistic fundamentals like who, what, where, and when. I can understand that the why and how might take time to write, and post.

But the only reason to say that a story is developing is if the thing being reported on is in progress and developing.




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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:44 PM
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7. I Agree
I guess it's the price we pay for the liberal answer to Drudge.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:44 PM
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9. i think they serve a purpose
they get the buzz going at quite a rapid pace... and if one of their stories doesn't pan out, the story sometimes Lives on.

that's how a few unnamed 'new sores' web sites operate.
i'm not saying that rawstory has the same credibiLity probLems as said sites, but using their sLy methods to spread memes.

i for one, Love it when the dark side gets to taste their own medicine.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:46 PM
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10. You just did! :)
They don't really bother me... The local news and cable news do teasers. The local paper advertises series in the weekend paper that starts Mondays to try to get you to get a week long subscription, instead of just the weekend edition. It's just business... :shrug:

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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:46 PM
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11. I wasn't going to comment and then I just read another teaser
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 12:47 PM by MaineDem
I agree with you.

They should post the story when they get it.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:47 PM
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12. Well, the story is there now and it looks like nothing to me.
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 12:51 PM by Connie_Corleone
Steve Schmidt is out of the country until October 26th.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:51 PM
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13. Yeah, those teasers remind me of a certain rightwing site...
Quick: What site am I?


BILL CLINTON IN MASSIVE ORGY WITH SATAN AND THE GHOST OF MAO TSE TUNG!

..... developing .....

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:53 PM
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15. Funny. Exactly what I was saying below. n/t
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:24 PM
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20. You forgot something...
;-)

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:52 PM
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14. It's Drudgism at its finest.
If one doesn't have the story yet, then STFU, in my book.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:03 PM
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16. I agree about the disappointment. In fact I think it should be a rule
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 01:05 PM by kenny blankenship
that if one is passing on some bullshit-sourced story, such as anything originating from CapitolHillBlue or Wayne Madsen or Rawstory or Drudge one should include a prominent "(WARNING: BS!)" tag in the subject line as a courtesy to du readers, so they'll know that it's just one of these stupid tossers again and nothing they need to bother with.

Failure to include the WARNING tag should result in discipline from DU mods. After all, people include warning tags for obscene material or bandwith intensive picture links, etc.
Why not for total crap?
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:28 PM
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21. Self delete
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 01:29 PM by meganmonkey
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:06 PM
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17. Doesn't bother me.
I'm just glad that they are there for us.
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mattomjoe Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:21 PM
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18. Why do they say "leaves" as if this just happened
and then report that he LEFT Oct. 3????
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:23 PM
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19. Makes it more exciting
Like they got a "scoop."
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:35 PM
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22. It's the Left's answer to Drudge
Somehow many people on the Left think that by copying the tactics of the Right, we will also be able to duplicate their success at propagandizing.

It doesn't work that way. It's the lack of a major presence on the corporate news channels (I despise pretentious internet-speak like MSM) that's the real setback. We lack the saturation and presence. RawStory does NOT bring us one step closer to fulfilling that goal.

Emulating the tactics is the worst way to go. Far better to get the numbers and saturation out there first, and the content will be free to take many forms, as does the propaganda from the Right - and the tactics will take care of themselves. One of those forms is going to be by-products like Drudge or RawStory - which are tabloid sensationalism and inaccurate pseudo-journalistic blogging (another stupid term) at their weakest.

RawStory is naturally one of the by-products of getting the Left heard, but by no means should it be the model or the means.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:20 PM
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24. The Question Is
Do we need our own Drudge?

Personally I can't stand it. I can see the political use. Just wish we'd stop getting these 'developing story' links where there's no story, at this point.
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:24 PM
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25. It's called "RawStory" for a reason,
take it with a grain of salt, like you should everything.

Peace.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:28 PM
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26. RAW stories are one thing; headlines with NO story are, well....
...another story.

I hate the practice as well, and I wish they would
quit wasting everyone's time with such nonsense.
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:14 PM
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28. Yeah, I understand.
But if you know it's BS, then why get your hopes up or waste time on it? I just read the headlines and say, "Huh... hope that turns out to be true." Or something along those lines. Know what I mean?

Peace.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:39 PM
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27. I hate to say it
but ANYONE could take (and for the most part this is what I've seen) SOMEONE ELSE'S story, rewrite it, then link it to their site.

I wouldn't even THINK of doing that with Takebackthemedia.com or any site I owned.

In my day it would have been considered a form of plagiarism, and it's not the way to go.

We can't win by playing the misdirection game, we have to win (and I've done it, by researching) and THEN slam the FACTS IN THEIR FACES.

Don't need anyone imitating a Tabloid for the left, it hurts more than it helps.

But I must admit if they get goodies from Conyers office before we do and share I have no problem wit that :)

BUT, I don't like being shipped off to RawStory, pounded with ads (which makes them money) and then find out it's a Washington Journal link or story in the first place.

That's why I quit going there months ago. Not that I don't like them, but these are methods I don't agree with personally.
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