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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:59 PM
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Paranoids? One of my friend is starting to ger worried about
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 02:26 PM by Seansky
this admin going after people like DUers who post their comments and can be easily tracked...

Can you believe this?

On Edit: Got it! it is Good night, and good luck's fault...;-) I tell you, those Hollywood people really know how to create panic.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:01 PM
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1. Hasn't this already happened?
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 02:11 PM by tasteblind
Andy's one example, but others have noticed weird goings on and suspected it was related to their posting on DU.

Edit: One person a month or two ago swore that a helicopter hovered outside their place.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:03 PM
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3. Crackly noise on my phone. My trash has been looked through.
They are no doubt after me for my kitten pic thread. It's muffins, the WH cat.
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:04 PM
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7. crackly noise on phone?!
i've had that problem for about a month and can't get it to go away.

were you kidding?
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:08 PM
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11. Not kidding about noises.I Was kidding that it was THEM.... unless
of course "them" is cingular.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:11 PM
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14. OMG, similar theories have been thrown about in this household as well
but they pertained to a certain chihuahua! (Sonora, the one on the left, has had a not-too-pleasant history with chihuahuas).


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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:22 PM
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25. When the Government taps phones nowdays, they do it via telco computer
You would only hear a crackly noise due to a tap if some down-on-their-luck Private Eye used old-fashioned alligator clips to tap into your actual telephone wires. The government doesn't do it that way anymore.

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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:28 PM
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30. The trendy wiretappers mix in a little static for that "old school" feel.
wiki wiki wiki snap.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:29 PM
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31. Damn, this thread's a sleeper hit. Nominate.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:02 PM
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2. Total paranoia
They don't care about us.....we have not been able to mobilize all our knowledge to effect change. Most people think WE ARE NUTS!
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:23 PM
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26. yeah, some times I think we are nuts, but not as nuts as
the freepers
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:26 PM
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29. that is kind of like the freeper argument....
hey we may torture people but we don't torture them as badly as our enemies!

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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:32 PM
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35. wow, that is a bit of a far fetched comparison...
At least it confirms they are crazier than we are ;-)
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:03 PM
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4. Can you doubt it? Who do you think they are training the torturers for?
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:06 PM
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8. They have deveoped an insidious torture technique - forced viewing of
DU kitty pic threads.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:03 PM
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5. Leave love letters for agent Mike
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:04 PM
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6. depends what you mean by "going after"
if you are talking about becoming "disappeared" and death squads then I would say, yes, that is a bit paranoid and whacky... Bush does not have the political hold on this country to do something like that. But if you mean information and data "assassination" and manipulation, just to fuck with our records, our communication, etc. perhaps... but it would be kind of silly for them to do that, there is too many risks involved and I don't know what would be gained politically for him.

yeah, i think we are okay.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:07 PM
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9. Yes, Thats why I have identified myself more than once, Free Speech!!!
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:07 PM
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10. OMG.. yesterday I got 4 calls with nobody on the other end..
:hide: :scared:
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:09 PM
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12. Calls were coming from within the house. GET OUT.
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:43 PM
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40. FUNNY
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:06 PM
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54. LMAO!
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:09 PM
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13. Freepers are not the government, They just represent Shrubs!!!
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:15 PM
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18. do you have a capitol one or jc penney's mastercard? it was me.
next time, hold on the DAMNED line long enough for me to finish chewing my food, talking with the guy next to me, and then if i fricking feel like it I will sell you accidental death and dismemberment insurance.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:53 PM
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47. Toooo funny expatriot!
Most can relate. Phone rings, you answer, total silence except for some clicking, etc. Finally you get it and try never to fall for it again. Everything is so predictable now days.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:11 PM
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15. If they come for you, feign insanity!
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 02:12 PM by ClayZ
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

I practice each week.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:17 PM
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21. practice doesn't make perfect... PERFECT practice makes perfect.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:30 PM
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32. That is what my Piano Teacher said before she quit!

Ah, but I may as well try and catch the wind!
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:44 PM
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41. hey! that is what my band instructor said before she had a breakdown too!
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mccoyn Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:00 PM
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50. Same story here.
I wonder if there is a pattern here.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:18 PM
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55. There is a special room in Hell
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 03:20 PM by ClayZ
For Uppity Mean Music teachers. They have to listen to beginning violins all day long for eternity. They have sit on metronome Charis out of beat, and it looks like this:

add www.

gallery.euroweb.hu/art/b/bosch/painting/triptyc1/delightd.jpg

May Hieronymus BOSCH forgive me! The third movement of the Garden of Earthly Delights
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:12 PM
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16. ok, ok a little paranoia is not unhealthy
now it truly depends what yuo have done, apart of posts... but yes what is better, being paranoid or right?
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:13 PM
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17. OMG that explains what this country is so f*cked up
Busy ready discussion boards instead of doing their damn jobs.



I'M PAYING YOUR SALARY...STOP READING THE WEB AND GO DO SOME REAL WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:21 PM
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24. i'm neither paranoid nor important enuf
to be watched or tapped.
however, i could certainly imagine a large group of people with similar affiliations might be looked at.

remember that little bitty peace action group that had an infiltrator?

with the patriot act remember that the gummint is allowed to select what they define as
suspish.

still, sometimes a crackle is just a crackle.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:16 PM
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19. My name is Michael Camann....
...and I live in Blue Lake California. I am not afraid to take responsibility for my dissent. PS-- kiss my ass, dubya.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:17 PM
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20. say hi to Agent Mike
he loves us, really

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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:32 PM
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34. We loves you babe
Hey I passed the background check for Boston 2004. If they had a question, I wouldn't have.......
and if you have not figured it out....

Serry J Winkler (See I'M PROUD of my good work to overthrow this administration!!!!)They stole my country...and damn it, I want it back.:kick:
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:48 PM
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44. Ay Caramba!
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:19 PM
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22. It is paranoia laced with a shot of self-importance...
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 02:20 PM by tx_dem41
that, humbly, has no reason to exist.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:21 PM
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23. Well some of us do have a reason to worry
but it has, I repeat, it has NOTHING to do with DU, or very little

We have had them noises on the phone, usually a nice and kind FUCK HOOVER, gets those stopped, fast.

Oh and trust me I'd rather be ahem paranoid, than oh right, if you get my feeling
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:24 PM
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28. I was only addressing this issue re: participation at DU. n/t
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:50 PM
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45. agree. txs for the slap therapy
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:24 PM
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27. Nixon's CIA flooded urban areas with cheap heroin to undermine
the organizing efforts of "radical" blacks. Now Bush is flooding the internet with free porn to undermine DU! Who knows how many of my potentially brilliant posts this tactic has soiled! um, i mean spoiled!
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:31 PM
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33. LOL. giggle.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:32 PM
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36. Its taken 5.5 years, but someone has finally pointed out where Bush...
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 02:33 PM by tx_dem41
has done something good! :evilgrin:
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:34 PM
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38. If the flood my neighborhood with cheap . . .
. . . single malt scotch, I'm in trouble.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:33 PM
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37. Hi Agent Mike!!!
:hi:

Remember me?
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:34 PM
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39. Quite honestly, if she's only just now thought of it, she isn't
likely a problem. She isn't nearly paranoid enough to cause concern. For those concerned, about what the likes of us might say, I'd say she herself has nothing to worry about.

Some of the others here now, others that are active, like someone else already said, some of them will likely be seen as attractive targets. With a large forum like this, folks, it's fairly well like shooting fish in a barrel. Yes, and don't forget they've got every friggn resource in the world to do it with AND that they're just getting started on using it. Toys people, think toys. They need something to use the toys on. Now, what would you think, if you yourself were looking for excuses to use them (practice makes perfect), about a democratic underground site. Get it? They "get" large audience, they have much expertise and dollars to spend on advertising, having media bought and paid for helps, big business and big huge money. They know what is effective and whom to target. Propaganda. It's what they do, if they do nothing else well, in this they excel. Those "them" people of whom I speak.

Us here? Fish in a barrel, wherever there might be a possible benefit, tangible or intangible.

I said on another forum, over 5 years ago, that we ought to keep an eye on our government, I was ranting about something or another, because even the silly stuff we'd say there could, potentially, one day, be "looked" at. I was laughed at somewhat. Now, I have to wonder if any of them remember any of it, those many back and forth "what ifs" and how silly they always thought I was.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:45 PM
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42. bwaha! My friend used to answer the phone with
"Hello, Hoover wore a dress! Can I help you?" :D
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:47 PM
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43. my friend used 2 write CRACK FOR TEENAGERS on the FOR portion of his check
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:52 PM
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46. For what, exactly? nt
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:56 PM
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48. she has become afraid of expressing her views 'cause attacks form
reps co-workers.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:00 PM
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49. Tell your friend
There are just waaaay too many of us for anyone to be "coming after" us. What, are they going to put half the country in Gitmo-style camps? Because we here on DU are not the only ones who talk against Bush and Republicans.

Now, that said, I wouldn't be surprised if they monitored the site in case any of us are planning any kind of violence or overthrow of the govt., etc. But other than that, I think we're ok. Think of it this way: if they throw us all in a detention center, we'll be in great company!! :)
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:05 PM
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52. yeah!!!!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:03 PM
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51. Help!! The paranoids are after me!!!
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 03:03 PM by longship
:scared: :scared: :scared:
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:06 PM
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53. ha, ha, ha!
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:25 PM
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56. I was paranoid when I got here about that
I expected the brownshirts at the door. Told Hubby to send them on up and call me a lawyer, if it happened.

The other day I made a post of an email I'd sent with my name (real), city, and state. A nice concerned DUer PMed me to make sure I wanted it in there. At this point, what can they do to me?

They are too busy destroying our constitution and country to bother with a little fish like me, or we are really in big trouble! LOL
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 04:14 PM
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60. don't worry, remember the CIA translator that sued them because
they left her go after she went public saying that there were leads about 9/11 that had not been translated 'cause they didn't have resources?

I told my friend that there are too many of us and no enough of them, specially with all the quagmires they have gotten themselves into since they took power.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:35 PM
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57. If you are wading in
a swamp, it's good to be on the lookout for snakes. If you are in your apartment in the city and worried about those same snakes, you are paranoid.
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:53 PM
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58. I don't get it!
Why am I always the last person to find out about these plots?!?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:55 PM
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59. What yuo are out of the memo loop?
78ubw, osnnd.

(Now reach for decoder ring for Project X)
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