FAKE TERROR ALERTS - Olbermann will report on latest and THIRTEEN times

[Nothing Without Hope]

questionable "terror alerts" have coincided with bad news for the Bushies. Keith is clearly outraged at this manipulation of human fear for political gain and he is going to lower the boom. There will be segments about this in tonight's (Tues) and tomorrow's show. Tonight's will be a "postmortem" on the most recent example in New York, and tomorrow's will show how THIRTEEN terror alerts coincided with BAD NEWS for the Bushies. Let's hope these reports open eyes that have previously refused to see.

Keith lost friends on 9/11 and comprehends the psychological damage that this despicable political ploy inflicts. Then too, as in the story of the little boy who cried wolf too many times, if there is a REAL terror alert, how many will pay attention? I have a feeling that these shows, especially the Wednesday one, are going to be filled with that direct, honest outrage that only Keith Olbermann brings to TV News. Let's hope these reports open eyes that have previously refused to see.

KEITH OLBERMANN'S COUNTDOWN IS ON MSNBC AT 8PM EASTERN TIME.

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Here's an excerpt from today's (Tues, Oct. 11) Countdown email:

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Tonight on Countdown
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There's much more brewing now about that latest terror threat...

Yesterday New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said police would be ``slowly winding down'' the intensity of subway patrols, after the target date cited in a federal warning about a possible terrorist attack passed without incident.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=ao2qgQmYt8IE&refer=top_world_news

As Pete Williams said in his report last night, those arrests in Iraq turned up nothing. "Law enforcement officials say today that investigations in the Iraqi city where three men were arrested last week, in response to a tip ... turned up no evidence whatsoever of any plan to attack New York. That includes giving the three men lie detector tests, searching their computers, and checking their phone call records."

Tonight... a postmortem on this latest terror threat, which officials at Homeland Security had said was of doubtful credibility.

And on Wednesday, Keith takes a closer look...
As he said yesterday, "...we spoke of at least thirteen coincidences of timing, between bad political news for the government, and a terror or terror-related event... We will be presenting a special report detailing those coincidences on Wednesday night's edition."

Countdown w/ Keith Olbermann broadcasts LIVE at 8 pm et, and the count is never complete without you. Join us.

(snip - email also summarizes other Countdown stories)

Here is an excerpt from the Bloomberg.com article linked to in the Countdown email above:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=ao2qgQmYt8IE&refer=top_world_news

New York Subway Terror Threat Eases, Police Reducing Patrols

Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) -- New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said police would be ``slowly winding down'' the intensity of subway patrols, after the target date cited in a federal warning about a possible terrorist attack passed without incident.

Bloomberg, who put the city on alert last week after being warned that an attack could come Sunday, Oct. 9, said the city will remain at the same state of heightened vigilance that it has since Sept. 11, 2001, when terrorists killed 2,749 in an attack on the World Trade Center.

``Since the period of the threat now seems to be passing, I think over the immediate future we'll be slowly winding down the enhanced security,'' Bloomberg said at a news conference today before taking part in a Columbus Day Parade on Manhattan's Fifth Avenue.

Bloomberg, accompanied by Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, said the city would again assign officers to patrol trains and search riders' bags if a similar threat is received in the future, even after Homeland Security officials said the latest warning was of ``doubtful credibility.''

(snip)

[zanne]

1. Where and when is this show on? nt

[Syrinx]

2. 8pm Eastern, MSNBC n/t

[w8liftinglady]

3. It's crucial that we let MSNBC know that we are watching ...

and that we support Keith.Things will get very tough for them(if they haven't already)..also any sponsors that advertise during his show.It takes a great deal of courage to speak so freely of corruption,not unlike his hero,Edgar R Murrow.

[Nothing Without Hope]

10. Excellent points. I've posted his email and the show email in the OP, and

we should keep track of who the sponsors are so we can thank them. (I don't have cable, so I hope someone will post the sponsors in this thread or another about the shows.) We can be sure that there will be loads of hate mail about Keith's truth-telling - we MUST counterbalance it.

[Nothing Without Hope]

4. kick n/t

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5. Another key segment tonight will be on how any flu pandemic would be

handled by the Department of Homeland Security instead of any medical authorities. Very, very scary.

"If the nightmare of an avian flu pandemic emerges from the dark chapters of doomsday scenarios, it will fall to the Department of the Homeland Security, not the medical establishment, to manage the crisis, according to federal documents and interviews with government officials." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9654456

[King Coal]

6. Recommended and bookmarked. Thanks.

[Nothing Without Hope]

7. The entire emailed newsletter about tonight's Countdown is posted here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=315x22500

There are some other important stories as well.

[me b zola]

8. k & r...n/t

[Nothing Without Hope]

9. Related thread: "CNN Breaking: Tip on N.Y. Subway threat a hoax"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1841994
thread title; CNN Breaking: Tip on N.Y. Subway threat a hoax

Really, the timing on this and the whole way it was set up to try to buff up fear of Iraqi "terra-ists™" were so transparent, I think they are losing their touch. Or is it that people are beginning to question sooner?

[Nothing Without Hope]

11. NY TIMES ARTICLE on the outrageous fake NY subway terror alert:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/11/nyregion/11threat.html

Threat Discounted, New York Eases Subway Alert

By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM
Published: October 11, 2005

(snip)

Law enforcement officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the information in the case is classified, said that an American investigation, conducted largely in Iraq, has yielded no evidence that a plot was in motion or being actively contemplated. The outlines of the alleged plot, based on the word of an informant, were that Al Qaeda operatives in Iraq were coordinating with others, some perhaps already in New York, to hide bombs in baby strollers, packages and briefcases and blow them up in subways.

But the officials said that after taking the three men into custody last week in Iraq, they found no fake passports, no travel documents, no viable travel route from Iraq to New York, and no apparent contact or telephone calls from those in Iraq to people in New York. In addition, the officials said that two of the men detained in Iraq had been given polygraph tests that indicated they were not part of any plot.

At a minimum, then, the case of the subway bomb plot appears to be the latest addition to the country's post-9/11 struggle to meet the sometimes conflicting demands of gathering good intelligence, preventing harm and informing and reassuring the public along the way. It is an effort that has regularly proved awkward and even contradictory, as federal and local agencies make their own assessments and meet their own specific obligations.

The F.B.I.'s chief spokesman, John Miller, an assistant director, said yesterday that the agency supported the city's actions. "Since 9/11, one of the toughest balances has been to pass on all threat information quickly while understanding you have to vet it later, especially when you have to give it to a local government that could be affected," he said in a telephone interview from Washington. "We've also encouraged local governments to take whatever steps they think are prudent until the information is vetted. In this case, everybody did what they were supposed to do."

(snip)

I'm curious about that "at a minimum." Are they skirting around the issue of deliberate terror-mangering for political gain?

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12. AP/CBS News report on the hoax terror threat- "not using the word 'hoax' "

Oh, they're worried about their credibility now, I think.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/11/national/main934039.shtml

'No Evidence' Of NYC Subway Threat

NEW YORK, Oct. 11, 2005

(CBS/AP) An official at the Department of Homeland Security tells CBS News correspondent Bob Orr that "no evidence has surfaced through intelligence to substantiate the threat" last week against the New York City subway system.

"All intelligence agencies agree there is no evidence to support the original information," the official said.

There have published reports that the original tip was some kind of hoax. However, officials CBS News talked to will not speculate on the motives of the informant who originally passed on the threat – and they are not using the word "hoax."

As they explain things, it's possible the informant may have believed the information to be true or may have misconstrued something he overheard. In any case, the information just doesn't hold up.

(snip)

[xchrom]

13. kick

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14. Interesting bits from FOX of all places: "previously reliable source"!?!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,171917,00.html

Sources: NYC Subway Threat Info Not Substantiated

Tuesday, October 11, 2005

(snip)

The administration official told FOX News on Tuesday that "there was a lot of doubt" about the informant who led the U.S. military to the three suspects in Iraq. The informant who had been credible in the past and was known to the Defense Intelligence Agency appears to have pulled some of the names and information "out of nowhere," sources told FOX News.

(snip)

Miller said the operation in Iraq "would have served to neutralize any threat that may or may not have existed."

The suspects in custody in Iraq denied they planned to coordinate with operatives who were already in the city to carry out an attack, said two law enforcement officials. The men had passed polygraph tests, the officials added.

"The people supposedly standing by in New York probably were never there," one of the officials said. Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation had not been completed.

(snip)

A previously reliable informant known to the "Defense Intelligence Agency"? Reliable like Chalabi was reliable, perhaps? What Administration loony-toons are listening at the fake tip stovepipe these days? AND WHAT "RELIABLE" NEWS DID THIS SOURCE GIVE BEFORE???

Was this a plot to "demonstrate" how war operations in Iraq were directly protecting New York City from terrorist attack?

[Nothing Without Hope]

15. ABC News - claims that this was not a hoax & a video clip

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Technology/story?id=1203722

Informant: Subway Plot No Hoax

Suspected Cohorts Failed Lie Detector Tests, But Original Source Maintains Threat Was Real

Oct. 11, 2005 — The original informant who prompted the terror alert on New York City's subways last week is sticking to his story, and there is no basis to conclude the threat was a hoax, sources involved in the investigation of the plot told ABC News.

When last spoken to by interrogators, the original informant has remained firm in his statement that there was in fact a plot.

(snip)

"He has not recanted nor in any way said anything to indicate that he believes his original info was false," an official told ABC News.

(snip)

Those reports said three men arrested in Iraq with suspected links to the possible plot had been interviewed and underwent lie detector tests that showed they knew nothing about such a plan.

(snip)

But as of earlier today, authorities had not spoken to the original informant since the three captives were interrogated and told authorities there was no plot.

(snip)

Does anyone else think it odd that their "reliable source' has not been talked to about the Iraq "terrorist links" info not holding up?

Here's a link to ABC News video clip, "Subway Terror Alert.":( If it doesn't work for you, I suggest you go to the page with the story and click the link to the video from there.)
http://mfile.akamai.com/16688/wmv/abcondemand.download.akamai.com/16688/free/051006wabcnypd.wmv

And here's a link to ABC News photos, "NYC Subway Threat":
http://abcnews.go.com/US/popup?id=1192116

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16. REQUEST TO MSNBC WATCHERS: write down the SPONSORS of Keith's show

and post them here, please. We need to thank them for supporting Keith's truthful journalism and couterbalance the hate mail that they will receive and also Keith's conservative boss. I don't have cable and so can't do it myself.

These letters are important for showing our support.

[WiseButAngrySara]

17. Did you see his first report on the 13 other 'terror' events which just

happened to coincide with bad news for the B* administration? It was at the end of last week, and was EXCELLENT! So good, that I feared that he had been let go, when someone subbed for him the next day. K.O. is one of the few honest journalists left. Very decent, ethical, humorous, and not bad on the eye! Can't beat that!

Thanks for the post, though I'ld already planned to watch it. K and R!

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Just hearing CNN announcing that the subway scare was a hoax...

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22. Thanks! You sound like you might enjoy the KOEB Group, which is also

a good way to keep up with his newsletters, blogs and other KO doings. (KOEB = Keith Olberman Estrogen Brigade)

On nights when he does the show, the KOEBers usually do a liveblog thread ("KOEB Meeting") in the group ("KOEB Clubhouse"), which is here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=315

This group posts the Countdown emails and other KO-related news.

The KOEB liveblogs of Keith's shows tend to be long on all sorts of silliness and detailed descriptions of Keith's wardrobe (it's an inside joke) and feature copious quantities of :loveya:s But they are fun and they do cover what he is reporting. It's also one of the few DU sites with an official bartender, a boiler room, a group toast, and episodic faux romantic fiction...

[WiseButAngrySara]

24. I'd LOVE to join the K.O. brigade! (Estogen Brigade...LOL!)

I haven't donated yet...can I join anyway? Thanks for the great info. He is my fav. Someone at DU posted his commencement address to his alma mater (?) and it brought tears to my eyes. I downloaded it and sent it to several friends and family members. I think the speech was years ago, but he has maintained the same degree of honesty and integrity since then. He is GREAT, IMHO.

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26. You can't post in groups unless you donate - it's one of the many perks

that make it worthwhile in addition to supporting Democratic Underground, such a unique and vitally important resource for us all and likely to become even moreso in the future.

You wouldn't believe some of the back history of the KOEB, it would have you in stitches for weeks. We carefully chose (with a DU poll) a tie from the KOEB for Keith a few months back, had it delivered, and he actually did wear it on the show. With much tongue in cheek, the official toast of the KOEB is "To the Ties That Bind." And that is on at least three levels of meaning...

All are enthusiastically welcomed at the KOEB. :hi:

[WiseButAngrySara]

32. KOEB The tie that binds! I love it...What color? Is it emblazoned with

KOEB DUers, or what are its' distinguishing qualities to look for? I can't (can) believe he wore it! That is SO cool.

BTW, what is a typical donation? I've been meaning to ask someone in the lounge, but I never get there...can't get past GD and LBN! (And I spend way too much time there as it is!)

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34. People give what they can, since it's such a good cause. Even ten bucks

should get you your gold star.

"The Tie" is a supremely tasteful golden color with a narrow diagonal black stripes; it was chosen by vote among several candidates in a memorable DU poll. One of the KOEBers used to and may still use a square cut-out of the pattern as her DU avatar.

[WiseButAngrySara]

35. It sounds beautiful! I'll look for it. I love the lilac one he is

donning this evening! Purple, the color of royalty...

[WiseButAngrySara]

18. Kicking again to keep up front! Thanks!........n/t

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

19. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that these have been

fake alerts, only AWAKE! The pattern emerged very early on.

On edit... I only wish that Keith reported this BEFORE last year's Presidential election so people could see it clearly.

[AntiFascist]

20. Interesting how yesterday they announced this news segment...

after a story about how the informant for the recent NY subway scare failed a lie detector test on who gave him the information. And the same informant gave previous warnings about domestic attacks that didn't amount to anything. Makes you wonder....

[dogday]

21. kicked and nominated

[Nothing Without Hope]

23. Ah, but according to the very interesting FOX article on this upthread,

this informant had been "reliable" previously! Shades of Chalabi - who did exactly what the DOD stovepipers wanted. Reliable indeed.

I do wonder if this was a plot to set up "proof" that the War in Iraq "protects" New York City from Terrorists.

[AntiFascist]

25. As I understand it...

he was reliable on his predictions about foreign attacks. Still makes you wonder....

[Nothing Without Hope]

27. Yes - on whose authority do we believe that he was reliable ANYWHERE?

As for domestic attacks, the Countdown show transcript from last Friday (Oct. 7), which discussed this, said that he was very notably UNreliable for domestic attacks:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9646386

(snip - scroll down)

{PETE} WILLIAMS, {MSNBC JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT}: And yet there were also reasons to be skeptical. Officials say the informant had warned of a dozen attack plots in the U.S. in the past, and all turned out to be unfounded. And round-the-clock investigations since last weekend have found no evidence that any of the supposed plotters made it to New York.

(snip)

[Nothing Without Hope]

28. Remember BUsh's claim last week that multiple Al Qaeda terrorist attacks

have been foiled since 9/11, including a number WITHIN THE US. From the Countdown show transcript from last Friday (Oct. 7), which discussed this:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9646386

(snip - scroll down)

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Overall, the United States and her partners have disrupted at least 10 serious al Qaeda terrorist plots since September 11, including three al Qaeda plots to attack inside the United States.

We‘ve stopped at least five more al Qaeda efforts to case targets in the United States or infiltrate operatives into our country.

ALEX WITT, GUEST HOST: The White House later released a list of those plots, including two 9/11-style attacks that it says were disrupted over the past four years. First of all, in 2002, an effort to hijack airplanes to attack West Coast targets. Also in 2002, the Jose Padilla plot, possibly involving a dirty bomb. And in 2003, another airliner plot, this one back on the East Coast. The other terror plots on that list were on foreign soil, but they included London‘s Heathrow Airport.

(snip)

How can we believe ANY of these claims??? And how can we be sure that a REAL terrorist threat would not only be addressed by the idiots running the government but also that people in the threatened area would actually LISTEN to any more terrorist alerts?

It's not just the horrible manipulation of fear and anxiety for political gain that is the issue here, it's also the destruction of all real protection from real threats as well as any trust in that government protection.

[AntiFascist]

30. Anyone see The Power of Nightmares?

:evilgrin:

[Nothing Without Hope]

31. Not yet, but I clearly must. Speaking of nightmares, I HAVE seen "Orwell

Rolls In His Grave," which can be watched online free here and is another must-see;

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8560.htm

What do we expect when a lying government controls the press? But they don't completely control it yet - and they haven't shut up Keith Olbermann.

[Nothing Without Hope]

44. In case you see this, there's now a link to "The Power of Nightmares"

in a post near the end of the thread. This includes links to the BBC sites describing the three episodes of the documentary as well as a link to a site with downloadable files.

[AntiFascist]

46. Thanks for posting the link!

Odd how this series seemed to have been totally banned from viewing in the US! I would also urge people to check out Hijacking Catastrophe at the link in my sig line. While the Power of Nightmares discloses provocative info in an entertaining way, Hijacking Catastrophe is full of facts and figures.

[Nothing Without Hope]

29. Info on KO's SPECIAL REPORT tomorrow (Wed.) and much more at BradBLog:

MUST SEE piece by our dzika at BradBLog on Keith's "terror" shows:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001910.htm

It has CNN videos and many important links. He also cites Keith's statement about tomorrow night's special show:

OLBERMANN: And then there is the intersection, or at least the juxtaposition, between politics and terror. We noted it here last week when, after a speech by the president about the war on terror and after the word that the special prosecutor would not guarantee to Karl Rove that he would not indict him, New York City suddenly announced there was credible, specific intelligence about a terror threat to its subway system.

...
OLBERMANN: Last Thursday, we spoke of at least 13 coincidences of timing between bad political news for the government and a terror or terror-related event. We will be presenting a special report detailing those and other coincidences on Wednesday night's edition of this news hour, "The Nexus of Politics and Terror" on COUNTDOWN this Wednesday at 8:00 and midnight Eastern here on MSNBC.

WATCH FOR DU POSTS FROM DZIKA WITH VIDEO CLIPS FROM TONIGHT'S SHOW AND TOMORROW'S SHOW! If/when I spot them, I'll post links to them here if no one else does so first.

[Nothing Without Hope]

33. Great title for Newsday piece on this: "FABRICATED FEAR" Also, Rep. King

- who is a REPUBLICAN and the Chair of the House subcommittee on Homeland Security - says he is going to convene hearings on how this terror alert was called.

http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/newyork/nyc-nyterr114464928oct11,0,1015426.story?coll=nyc-nynews-print
NYC Print Edition

Fabricated fear

Subway bomb threat apparently was based on misinformation from informant; city to scale back security
BY KNUT ROYCE AND ROCCO PARASCANDOLA
October 11, 2005

(snip)

Rep. Peter King (R-Seaford), the chairman of the House subcommittee on homeland security, said the easing of worries hasn't changed his opinion that the Department of Homeland Security mishandled the threat.

King, who has said he'll convene hearings to grill agency officials for declaring the threat of "doubtful credibility," accused the Homeland Security Department yesterday of possibly discouraging other localities into keeping such threats quiet to avoid being shamed.

"I'm not worried about New York - they'll do what they need to - but are other local governments going to be willing to do the right thing when they are publicly undermined by Homeland Security?" he asked. "There are a lot of local governments who aren't going to be willing to be responsible, for fear of being undermined by Washington."

Over the weekend, one television news report said a probe showed that the men had not made any calls to the United States. Two law enforcement sources said yesterday that the same men had passed their polygraph tests, though another source, who is an official familiar with the probe, said only two men had actually been polygraphed and both had passed.

(snip)

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36. LA Times title also uses the word "HOAX" and seems to blame Bloomberg:

The LA Times is pointing a finger at the Mayor of NY but NOT at the Bush Administration, which was the source of the "information."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-101105subway_lat,0,6732185.story?coll=la-story-footer&track=morenews
3:32 PM PDT, October 11, 2005
latimes.com : National News

N.Y. Subway Threat Discounted as Likely Hoax

By Josh Getlin and Josh Meyer, Times Staff Writers

(snip)

"It all appears to be falling apart," a federal law enforcement said of the informant's story. "The guy … made something up that he thought we wanted to hear."

New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said he had not seen any evidence that the subway threat was a hoax.

But even if it was, he said, the city acted properly in alerting the public and increasing mass transit security. He also dismissed allegations that he issued the warning for political reasons connected to his November bid for re-election.

Critics noted the mayor revealed the alleged plot on Thursday afternoon, hours before a mayoral campaign debate in Harlem that he had decided not to attend.

(snip)

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37. Wash Post is also implying that the Mayor is to blame - but he didn't get

the info in Iraq, did he now? This story is not on the front page, either. There is not the slightest hint that anyone in the Bush Administration might have any blame. And the DoD says it can't find the informant any more...

So how is a local authority supposed to judge foreign-derived intelligence? It's not the mayor's job to try to weigh the validity of an informant's tip, it's the government's. And when did they tell the Mayor that this particular informant has been dead wrong about domestic terror attacks a dozen earlier times?

This smells to high heaven, and it looks like the Poodle Press is falling into line - except for Keith Olbermann, who dares to tell the truth.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101621.html

N.Y. Threat May Have Been a Hoax

Officials Say Iraqi Informant Disappeared; Alert Has Ended
By Dan Eggen and Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, October 12, 2005; Page A03

The alleged threat that led to heightened security on New York City subways last week may have been a hoax on the part of an Iraqi informant attempting to get money in exchange for information, U.S. intelligence and counterterrorism officials said yesterday.

The informant has since disappeared in Iraq, and the Defense Department has not been able to locate him, U.S. and New York City officials said.

(snip)

Officials with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security were highly skeptical of the threat from the beginning, though federal officials sought to play down any differences with New York City authorities.

(snip)

Bloomberg, who is running for reelection in November, defended the city's decision to ratchet up security. At a news conference yesterday, he said officials had little choice but to respond to such detailed claims.

(snip)

[Nothing Without Hope]

38. Guardian (UK) calls it a hoax and notes that the mayor is being blamed

They note that "some officials" blame the mayor for over-reacting and point out that the whole incident was one day after Bush's inflammatory comments about all the foiled Al Qaeda attacks.

No one seems to be making much of what seems to me to be a MAJOR point: from the beginning, SOME federal officials believed this threat was groundless, yet the Mayor of New York was given information which made him concerned enough to risk a major public relations disaster as well as citizen irritation. So why wasn't there a unified, careful, professional evaluation of the intelligence by the federal authorities BEFORE it was passed to the civilian authorities? Whether there was "merely" massive incompetence or whether this was yet another attempt to pump up fear and anxiety for political gain by the Bush Admnisitration, THIS is the issue here. Plus, what will people do when/if there is a REAL terror threat? How can they possibly judge?

How papers like the Wash Post and the LA Times can imply that the mayor was at fault and was doing this as a kind of re-election stunt is beyond credibility to me. But that's what they're going with.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1590005,00.html

New York subway threat was a hoax, security sources admit

Jamie Wilson in Washington
Wednesday October 12, 2005
The Guardian

The alleged terror threat that sparked a big security alert on New York's trains and subway last week turned out to be a hoax concocted by an unreliable US informant in Iraq, it emerged yesterday.

(snip)

From the beginning some federal officials questioned the credibility of the plot, describing it as "specific yet non-credible". Some officials privately criticised the mayor of New York, Michael Bloomberg, for overreacting to the alert, which came the day after George Bush claimed 10 big al-Qaida attacks had been thwarted since September 11 2001.

Law enforcement officials also told the New York Times yesterday that the investigation in Iraq had found no evidence that a plot was in motion or being actively contemplated. The officials said after taking the three men into custody last week they found no fake passports, no travel documents, no viable travel route to New York, and no apparent contact with people in New York. They said the informant had been right eight of the 15 times he gave information to his Defence Intelligence Agency handlers. He was right about information in Iraq and wrong mostly about actions elsewhere. "The process is not a clean one here. Ever," one official told the newspaper.

(snip)

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39. Kick for the night - be sure to read the LAT, WaPo and Guardian articles -

it does look like the Poodle Press thing will be to blame the Mayor of NYC and accuse him of overreacting to the faux terror alert in order to help his re-election campaign. I view this as unlikely. What is most striking to me is that NO ONE seems to be asking why the feds - some of whom are said to have called the story bogus from the start and for good reason - didn't do more professional analysis before passing the info to the civilian authorities. THEY are the ones who gave the info to the mayor, and yet the press seems to be blaming only him and not even raising the question of incompetence and/or deliberate fear-mongering by the Bush Administration.

Let's hope that Keith's Wednesday special report clarifies this deliberate murk.

[Nothing Without Hope]

40. kick n/t

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41. kick to remind people to watch tonight n/t

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42. ***VIDEO in WMV and Real Meda formats, AUDiO in MP3, and more!***

All to be found in the links in this post, courtesy of our wonderful video king, dzika:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2153585&mesg_id=2153848

The "More" includes links to the three-part BBC documentary, "The Power of Nightmares," inlcuding links to the BBC descriptions of each episode plus a link to a page with downloadable video files.

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43. NOTE: The "more" inlcudes the BBC documentary "The Power of Nightmares"

The "More" in the title of the preceding post includes links to the three-part BBC documentary, "The Power of Nightmares," inlcuding links to the BBC descriptions of each episode plus a link to a page with downloadable video files.

As was pointed out upthread, there's a direct connection in the subject matter, so much so that dzika included these links to "The Power of Nightmares" with his post on Olbermann's "Nexus of Terror" post at BradBlog. (Link in the preceding post)

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48. ***Another permalink to VIDEO, AUDIO and MORE, courtesy of dzika***

This is an expanded presentation of the info at the link given above, just to make sure the information isn't lost. It's to dzika's (David Edwards') fine blog entry on this show at BradBlog. It includes links to various video and audio formats of the 12 minute segment discussed here, minus the part with Hutchinson:

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001917.htm



STREAMING VIDEO in Real Media; http://www.ameratsu.com/media/vid/msnbc/msnbc_ko_nexus_politics_terrori_051012a.ram

DOWNLOADABLE VIDEO in Windows Media: http://www.ameratsu.com/media/vid/msnbc/msnbc_ko_nexus_politics_terrori_051012a.wmv

AUDIO in MP3: http://www.ameratsu.com/media/vid/msnbc/msnbc_ko_nexus_politics_terrori_051012a.mp3

And more .. including links to the blog and to the 3-part BBC documentary, "The Power of Nightmares"

Thanks, dzika! :hi:

[jackstraw45]

45. This thread is a MUST send email - fwd it around folks

Send send send!

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47. ***Show summary at Keith's blog and the complete show transcript***

Keith's blog is usually personal and often on different topics from what he broadcasts. NOT THIS TIME. His concern and outrage over the manipulated terror alerts was so great, he set up a comprehensive summary of the "Nexus of Terror and Politics" segment of his show, complete with ALL THIRTEEN of the "coincidences" - there was time for only ten of them in the broadcast. Here's the PERMALINK for this important blog entry:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9665308/#051012a

Also, the COMPLETE SHOW TRANSÇRIPTS appear about a day after broadcast and include the entire show. Here is the one for the October 12 show, which includes the "Nexus" segment:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9683483

For future or past shows for Keith and other MSNBC news staff, see the general transcript page - scroll down for Keith's show:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3719710

[Nothing Without Hope]

49. ADDITIONAL DU THREADS on Olbermann's "Nexus of Terror and Politics":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5047106
Thread title: Olbermann's New Blog: "The Nexus of Politics and Terror" (13 instances)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5046718
Thread title: VIDEO-Politics of Nexus of Terror-Olbermann

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2153585
Thread title: Holy shit, did Olbermann just accuse the Bush regime of terrorism?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5046468
Thread title: Could we all send MSNBC a note of support for KO "good" (LINK)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5046317
Thread title: I'm getting angry watching Olbermann's Nexus of Terror

[Nothing Without Hope]

50. a good gathering together kind of thread - worth a kick to keep alive

for those who didn't see it before

[Nothing Without Hope]

51. Also not to be missed: the next night's show on the scripted photo-op

teleconference with the troops in Tikrit and the bizarre McClellan press conference. This thread has a compilation of all of it, and the Olbermann video clips are in a reply:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5054730
Thread title: ***Olbermann covers the scripted photo-op & lying press conf TONIGHT***