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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 07:44 PM
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Is it true that DeLay has one grand juror who will say that Earle
pressured the grand jury that failed to indict? Does this weaken the other indictments against DeLay? Is there a citizen out there who will have the courage to sue DeLay?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 07:47 PM
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1. DeLay is trying to harass the juror, no doubt it is illegal to do.
Like a mafia don, probably told the guy he would be fed to pigs...alive.

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 07:47 PM
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2. Where did you hear that?
Link?
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 07:47 PM
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3. and your link for this?
n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 07:50 PM
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4. Please provide a link for your information.
Thank you.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 07:52 PM
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5. Nope.
And if he does then that Grand Juror violated the requirement to keep the proceedings secret. Ooops!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 07:52 PM
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6. I read
that Earle was po'd that the GJ on their last day when presented with new evidence would not indict. Upon presenting the evidence to a newly enpaneled GJ, they indicted within hours. I think that speaks well for Earle's case.

Delay is a whiny bitch.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 07:53 PM
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7. DeLuded's case is baseless and will be dismissed.
He and his attorney are just raising a BRU-HA-HA.

I hope his attorney gets smacked, BIG TIME, with huge sanctions!!!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 07:54 PM
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8. from what i have read -yes
there`s an earlier thread tonight about this issue. delay doesn`t "have" a juror his lawyer has
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:02 PM
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9. According to John Dean at Findlaw, Earle's case has legs:
The Case Against Tom DeLay: What Has Happened To Grand Jury Secrecy In Texas?

By JOHN W. DEAN
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Friday, Oct. 07, 2005

What is one to make of the criminal charges against Tom DeLay?

I spoke with several knowledgeable Texas lawyers, of both parties, about the case against DeLay; they were willing to speak, but only off-the-record. Or, as one put it, "Who in hell wants to get in the middle of a fight between a polecat and a skunk?" (I don't like unidentified sources. But I will use them in this column, only because they are sharing nothing more their expertise, no inside information. They were offering their professional "speculation," if you will.)

There is no speculation, however, by the grand jurors who have spoken out in this case; they are familiar with the evidence prosecutors must have adduced, before them, to convince them to indict. And what they are saying appears dangerously close to breaking their oaths of secrecy.


The (now) former Majority Leader of the U.S. House of Representatives was indicted on September 28, and again on October 2, by two different Travis County, Texas grand juries. The second indictment is far more serious than the first.

The first indictment charges DeLay with engaging in a criminal conspiracy in violation of Texas Penal Code Section 15.02. It states that DeLay and two of his associates (also indicted) agreed to make corporate political contributions which are prohibited by the Elections Code. If convicted, DeLay faces up to two years in jail and a $10,000 fine.

<snip>

DeGuerin's motion to dismiss the first indictment has not been made public. All that is known is that the gist of his argument is a claim that the conspiracy statute cited in the initial indictment, Section 15.02 of the Texas Penal Code, was not applicable at the time of DeLay's purported offense, the alleged 2002 violation of the Election Code prohibiting corporate contributions.

Despite DeGuerin's skill, one of my sources suggests his tactic in filing the motion to dismiss the first indictment when he did, may have been faulty. "DeGuerin probably pulled the trigger too fast," one attorney told me. "Had he waited until it was clear the statute of limitations had passed, and had he made it clear DeLay's waiver of the statute of limitations had ended, he might have done to Earle again what he did in the Kay Bailey Hutchinson case, and raise the technical error when it was too late to fix it. But by going in guns blazing, trying to blow Earle out of the water, Earle simply issued a second indictment to cover himself."

<snip>

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20051007.html
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:24 PM
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10. If so the juror better not be talking about the case outside the GJ
If the juror has a complaint against a prosecutor or a DA, he/she needs to go to a judge, not the defendant's attorney. That would be highly inappropriate and possibly illegal, though I'm not a lawyer.

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