Rove knew...Scooter knew....Cheney knew....Dubya knew nothing?

[kentuck]

Uh-huh...Yep....Sure. Nobody wants to say it? Dubya knew everything that Karl knew. But he's the President. He is above reproach. The law doesn't apply to him. Why would anyone think Dubya himself might be involved in such illegal maneuverings? He said he would get to the bottom of it, didn't he? And that he would see that they are taken care of, right?

[fooj]

1. Anyone who thinks Little Lord Pissy Pants didn't know...

He is vengeful, spiteful, vicious and vindictive. He has a history of this behavior. IMO, he knew EXACTLY what was going on.

Peace.

[Dinger]

2. Exactly, If Cheney Goes, Thay'll ALL Go!

You can bet on it!

[jayctravis]

6. There's gonna be one of those Face Off/Scooby Doo moments...

where George will tear off the mask and be some mastermind we didn't expect. It'll be like, "Oh my god, Condi was behind it all along!" She plays piano and ice skates ... very typical evil mastermind hobbies.

[Demoiselle]

8. They picked him in the first place 'cuz he's stupid and maleable.

Also vengeful, spiteful, vicious and vindictive. They exploited his need to be a bigger man than Daddy and his born-again Christian number (catnip for the fundie vote) , and told him Unca Dick and others would look after him and he could go to bed real early and spend months at a time on vacation.
Do I hope he's as guilty as the rest of them on this one? Absolutely yes.
Do I think it's possible they never told him much about it? Also absolutely yes.

[loyalsister]

15. They picked him because

Democrats love to say that about him. And, the more it is repeated, the harder it is for anyone to believe he could possibly have known. He's too stooopid to be competent.
We made our own beds by falling for that. He won't be held accountable for this presidency anymore than Reagan was for his.

[NNN0LHI]

3. I think the Chimp is the target here

But Fitzgerald knows you don't take a shot at the king and miss. This is a very delicate process. The whole White House may be rolled up here before its all over. Never know?

Don

[kentuck]

5. The whole White House is criminal...

They should be rolled up, if there is any justice in this world. It started before Enron, before refusing to turn over the energy meeting files, before Bush was even Governor of Texas. Behind every great fortune is a great crime. Cheney has it coming. Just like Rove has it coming...Just like that dirty little coward, Bush, has it coming. There is no justice unless these outlaws are brought to justice. They are not above the law. I repeat, they are not above the law. Hear that freepers! They are not above the fucking law!

[fooj]

11. They will be held accountable...

like you said, kentuck...if there is any justice in this world.

Peace.

[rocktivity]

4. If he didn't know, he should have.

And if you can be convicted of manslaughter because you did something you should have known could result in death, he can be guilty being neglient about what his own subordinates were doing. Besides, if President Potty Stop REALLY didn't know what was going on, what didn't he say, "What the hell is going on?" when he had the chance?

:headbang:
rocknation

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

10. If he says he didn't know - he'll come off looking like a complete fool

who wasn't aware of the actions of his own Vice President and personal political advisor, along with other members of his staff. There is no way Bush can come out of this unscathed, even if he avoids an indictment. That presupposes of course that indictments will be handed down.

[July]

19. That's my take on it. Complicit, wimpy, or incompetent. Or all 3. nt

[Catherine Vincent]

7. Yeah, he's goanna pull a Ken Lay

"I know nothing!"

[BrotherBuzz]

9. They claimed Reagan and GHW Bush were "out of the loop.", too

I'm just saying...:shrug:

[Dulcinea]

16. Remember Iran-Contra.

Reagan claimed he knew nothing.

Of course, he did have Alzheimer's, so he probably wasn't lying.

I wouldn't be surprised if Boy George actually doesn't know much about Plame. This was probably on a need-to-know basis, & the little figurehead didn't need to know, as far as Rove was concerned.

[Swamp Rat]

12. No one can convince me that Bushler has "plausible deniability."

Bushler knows and made it happen, after he got unka Dick's approval of course. Even if Dickhead Cheney kept him out of the loop, Bushler is still responsible for EVERYTHING his subordinates have done. :mad:

[H2O Man]

18. "Plausible deniability"

only relates to the method that a president (or vice president) uses to plead ignorance in regard to that which they actually know. It implies that even if it seems pretty likely the president did know, it is possible those under him kept it from him. It does not mean that there is no way the president knew.

Think of the implications: Truman's "the buck stops here", and Kennedy taking responsibility for the Bay of Pigs plan hatched by the previous administration, are examples of responsible leadership. Iran-Contra and the Plame/neocon spy scandal are the opposite.

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. But neither Rove, Scooter or Cheney were on Air Force 1

for the trip to Africa, but W was. So Bush had to know.

[donheld]

14. Irrelevant

It's his job to know. It's his job to keep his cronies in line. Do you think if Al Gore would have been involved in something like this they'd have given Clinton a pass. No! They'd have strung Bill up without hesitation.

[Clintmax]

17. Of COURSE he knew!

But, as you said, he's above the law. Or at least he THINKS he is. I hope he gets impeached and that smug opinion of himself shoved right up his ass!

[malaise]

20. Exactly

W is President and Commander in Chief. I notice MSM is calling every name but his own. No one will convince me that he did not know.

[LynnTheDem]

21. If bush knew, he's implicit. If bush didn't know, then he's

too damn STUPID and out of the loop to be the president.