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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:17 AM
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Special benefit on auto/home insurance if you attend Church!
Good thing I was sitting down when I opened my mail today! I got a special notice from our auto insurance co. advising me of all the new benefits, free, if I regularly attend Church. WHAT????

1. Waive deductible if there is a loss while driving to or from a church activity or service.

2. Church tithing or donations, up to $750 covered if you suffer a loss of income from a disability caused by any auto accident.

3. Pays existing auto loan payments up to $3,000 if you suffer a loss of income caused by accident while driving to or from Church.

4. Mortgage will be paid up to $7,500 if you suffer a loss of income due to an accident at your residence.


There's more, but I'm tired typing!

Where is THIS coming from????

IF you care to se the whole thing, here's the link!
http://www.guideone.com/aboutus/newsreleases/faithguard_030305.htm?search=church&p=1#_1
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:21 AM
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1. might as well take advantage of the sheeple
great marketing :P
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:26 AM
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3. I guess it's great marketing, but there's no charge.
I can only guess that their losses in situations like they're covering FREE have been extremely low, or none at all!
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:40 AM
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14. volume offsets lower individually policy profit margins...
basic supply and demand

there are calculations for maximizing overall profit that take into account increasing number of customers, price of product and cost of providing the product
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:13 PM
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27. Yes but you better be headed in the direction of a church...
...if you're in an accident!!
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:23 AM
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2. It doesn't cover crashes due to the Rapture?
Now isn't that special?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:26 AM
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4. Geez, I'd think us non-believers should get better deals...after all,
we're not constantly on the roads going to and from church, Sunday school, Bible study, and all those pray meetings! Drive less miles and more clear-headed!
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:26 AM
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5. I was at a Wendy's recently
They had a sign up that you would get a discount if you brought in your program from any church on a Sunday.

Wendy's lost my business that day.
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orion9941 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:33 AM
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6. Wendy's has always been very Republican.
Good ole Dave Thomas was very homophobic too.
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phillinweird247 Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:39 AM
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11. That sucks! because I love wendy's. n/t
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:33 AM
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7. GEE, talk about manipulating people!
Funny thing about the Wendy's story is that it sure doesn't take going to church to get a program from one!

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:39 AM
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13. Hmm....
wonder what they'd do if I brought in my order of worship for Universal Worship?
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 04:01 PM
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32. Do I get a free lunch if I bring 'em a Jack Chick tract?
just askin'.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:36 AM
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8. Isn't this REALLY the same as...
having benefits reduced/denied IF YOU DON"T believe in god? Looked at in that way, would it be legal?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:37 AM
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9. Marketing

The P & C end of insurance can tailer policies to just about any industry or group. There are companies with "special" policies for bucket trucks companies, for farmers, you name it and someone has a "special policy made just for your group," if there are enough people involved in something they will make a policy with your activity printed right on it. Yes, actually printed on the advertising! Makes it special just for you. And they really care about people involved in your activity, more than likely their company was founded by people involved in "insert your activity here" or the special "insert your activity here," department is run by people in "insert your activity here."
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:38 AM
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10. Interesting
wonder if it would cover me if I got into a fender bender after attending zkr? That's the ceremony of remembrance Sufis do, and is a form of worship service, I would think.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:39 AM
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12. How can they prove you DONT attend church?
I say claim all the benifits you can. Its up to them to prove you are not religious.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:42 AM
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15. Since it's an insurance company
I'm guessing that they have researched this risk/benefit factor to a fare-thee-well, and have determined that the risk of paying out on these benefits is negligible compared with the additional ratepayers they will attract for making this offer.

It's the bottom line, as always.

And since I do quite a bit of driving on church-related activities in a geographically large area, it's something that might appeal to me.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:44 AM
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16. And remember Sunday is the safest day of the week for

Driving. Less people on the road, restricted alcohol sales in many places. Less people on time constraints such as lunch hours and getting to meeting deadlines.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:54 AM
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17. what about wiccans?.....
if they are on their way to a coven meeting or any other non-main stream religion?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:27 PM
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22. See my post below. Get ordained officially, good for wiccans and others
Make church be where ever you want it to be. Take it with you!
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:56 AM
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18. Jeez, all I've been offered is a bag of candy and a bus ride
to the church. Okay, they haven't offered it to me but they've been offering bags of candy and a ride in a bus to one of the local fundie churches. Word spread through the neighborhood pretty quickly and the police were called.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:00 PM
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19. Well, what do you expect. Its a company run by fundies, for fundies
Sure, they can take all the benifits they want.

But the company is run by fundies. Bush is a fundie. And Bush is a liar.

Therefore, these people probably can't be trusted.

I bet they never pay out benifits.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:04 PM
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25. Actually they handle claims very well.
We've had them insure our cars for about 4 1/2 years. They have the cheapest premiums, and when my husband had an accident 2 years ago, and was at fault, they gave us a very fair price for our totaled car, paid all the medical bills without any question, and we had the check in less than 2 weeks.

Our agent is very knowledgebale, and is always willing to give us advice on how to work with some weird problems that have come up.

I really have NO problem with their performance as an insurer. I just found it a bit weird that they were offering free benefits to those who go to church.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:02 PM
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29. The link read as though they were a company that specialized
in covering churches, and I figured that was all they did.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:01 PM
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30. No. They have a broad customer base. I guess they also
decided to concentrate a portion of their effort on insuring Churches as a large piece of their marketing plan. I have no idea just how much of their business is Church insurance. I think it's just something nice they put on their web site too.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:14 PM
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20. Well crimony
Where I come from, we have a word for that. "Discrimination."

I'm not sure how they can tell you actually sat through a whole service. Unless, of course, in situation #1 they meet you at the site of the fender-bender.

What do you get if you're not a church member, but someone who is, causes the accident? Do you get any more money or special treatment? What are they saying to non-believers? "Who cares if you get hit, buddy"?

I'd just switch companies. The whole thing just doesn't seem right (in my opinion).

:mad: :dunce: :wtf:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:26 PM
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21. OK, here's a plan: Get ordained and start your own church
even if you and your kitten are the whole congregation!

http://www.ulc.org/

And, you can use the Clergy Only parking spaces at hospitals, AND go into prisons to minister if you want.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:39 PM
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23. I'll go even one better

Ordain yourself, claim that you have broken away from whatever church and hold your services in your basement, backyard, or where ever. If you think about it, it could be anything.

If they ask you to prove your religion invite them to a service. Like I said anything, meditate in front of a nice set of silverware while reciting transcripts of a cooking show or the simpsons.


Back to the original post, I would think anyone that has a "Jesus Saves" or whatever bumber sticker on their car could claim to be evangelizing the world anytime they are driving the car and thus on chuch related activity.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:40 PM
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24. Is it only for churches, or does it cover any religious obligation?
It really doesn't bother me all that much if it is inclusive to all religions.

The 7-11 in Madison Heights, MI (13 1/2 mile and John R)gives a free coffee or small slurpee to anyone on a Sunday who produces a church program from that day. I got my free slurpee at least once or twice.

When I bought my car, I specifically chose the dealership/salesman because they were offering a deal to donate $200 to my church for each car they sold to a member of my church. I needed a new car, and I figured this was God's way of telling me to buy one at that time.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:12 PM
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26. Well, I have the brochure in front of me that they enclosed in my
notice about this new benefit.

The opening line is:

"FaithGuard Auto and Homeowners insurance for the faithful. FaithGuard offers all the coverage of GuideOne's standard auto and homeowners policy, with additional benefits to help protect active church attenders, such as:
Waived deductibles.....

It does say church attenders, but I have NO IDEA what they mean by CHURCH and how restrictive that is.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:15 PM
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28. They are a private business, so it's their right to offer what they want.
n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:02 PM
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31. How are you supposed to prove it?
I know church's have directories but it could be old. This is just silly. Are they going to have a sepcial for the other religions too? :eyes:
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 04:05 PM
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33. If I'm a Pastafarian,
does it cover me driving to and from Italian restaurants or grocery stores?

If I'm a Rastafarian, does it cover me when driving to my dealer's to pick up a bag of grass?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 04:07 PM
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34. It makes it sound like those who go to church are better drivers...
Am I reading this wrong?
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