Everybody knows it. Rove is the Real President.

[ck4829]

O'Really has said that if Rove gets indicted, then the Bush Administration is in serious trouble.

The Freepers have said that if Rove gets indicted, then the Bush Administration is in serious trouble.

Everybody is saying that if Rove gets indicted, then the Bush Administration is in serious trouble.

[Imalittleteapot]

1. Rove is Co-President

If Rove AND Cheney get implicated in Plamegate, who is going to pull the puppet strings?

[electropop]

4. What will Bush do when Rove and Cheney are gone?

Scary thought. He might start having ideas and taking actions on his own. Any number of things could happen, all bad. Hopefully he'll be frog-marched not too long after Rove, Cheney, and Libby.

[Patiod]

2. SNL: "blaming Bush like blaming San Diego Ckn for Padre loss"

He's nothing but a big, fuzzy mascot.

[HereSince1628]

3. Hmm, I thought that Cheney was the real president.

Rove is a plotter for poll numbers a manipulator of vote counts, a spin guy, and a trickster. His only policy is to do what gets conservative republicans elected.

That is not Cheney who is a ideologue, a thru and thru policy guy, scheming to create and get support for radical unAmerican ideas.

Rove is a nuisance, Cheney is a danger.

[McKenzie]

5. Cheney: Think National Energy Policy Development Group

Part of the reason for invading Iraq (and maintaining a huge military presence in the Middle East) is oil, as we all know. The importance of oil is made clear in the PNAC document and the same theme appears even earlier in the book "The Grand Chessboard". Securing oil is central to the PNAC vision and requires strategy and policy to be formulated at the very highest level; it's an issue of crucial importance to US geopolitical strategy. We know that Cheney was THE pivotal figure at the National Energy Policy Development Group and it followed on from the publication of the PNAC document, unless I have my dates wrong.

My gut feeling is that Cheney is the biggest fish (reptile maybe, I've never gotten close enough to be sure) who is in the public eye.

Here are some pointers as to just how influential he has been>>>

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_Cheney

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championed Donald Rumsfeld for Defense Secretary
"insisted, over fierce objections by Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, on placing Paul Wolfowitz in the number two position at the Pentagon"
"insisted, again over Powell's misgivings, on making ultra-unilateralist John Bolton, then vice-president of the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), undersecretary of state for arms control and international security.
"reportedly played a key role in the appointment of another controversial neo-conservative, Elliott Abrams, to head the Middle East office on the National Security Council."
"reportedly visited the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) several times in the run-up to the war in Iraq, in what was seen as pressure on CIA analysts to take a darker view of Saddam Hussein's alleged ties to al Qaeda and weapons of mass destruction."

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[applegrove]

6. It's the Rove WH. Why it is such a diminished office and everything

it touches is worse off or lesser than before. While cronies and like minded nefarious types get paid off with power and/or money.

[applegrove]

7. It's the Rove WH. Why it is such a diminished office and everything

it touches is worse off or lesser than before. While cronies and like minded nefarious types get paid off with power and/or money.