Apple is unveiling new Video ipod--right now

[AlCzervik]

watching CNBC--no link yet.

[stepnw1f]

1. I'm Looking Forward to the Dual Core Dual Processor G5

Next and probably final generation of the G5's.

[Ex Lion Tamer]

7. Damn

More money I'll have to spend.

[gmoney]

2. Why does Apple stock dive...

every time they do new product announcements? It's off about 3.5% right now!

I swear it is SUCH a predictable phenomenon that you could probably build a small fortune just on that.

[AlCzervik]

5. that dive is from yesterday for missing the street by about 3 cents a shar

[htuttle]

8. Does that mean they're 'beleaguered' again?

:eyes:

[Atman]

11. They missed the street by 3¢, but were still up 300%

What the fuck!

I wish my business was that beleaguered

[Zynx]

44. The shares had priced in a meet or a beating of expectations.

Therefore, a miss is a big deal.

[NYC Liberal]

3. IMAGE HERE

http://www.xs4all.nl/~lucasrag/pics/

[dethl]

4. Widescreen iPod?

I'm gonna have to check one of these out when they get to my campus' apple reseller.

[Tesha]

13. QVGA (Quarter VGA), video decoding, video out

Arrangements to allow you to buy (e.g.) music videos and ABC TV
episodes through the iTunes music store.

Oh, and some up-reved Macs too, including an iMac that now
includes a video camera (iSight) standard.

Tesha

[Atman]

36. ooh...ABC video..."FULL HOUSE" on my iPod!

I'd sooner stick toothpicks through my eardrums and rub habaneros in my eyes.

[pattim]

23. Is this a stolen one or what?

Chinese? I mean, looks valid enough, the Chinese says what I'd expect it to, as does the iPod itself, but I find it interesting. I was pretty sure there weren't any Apple stores in China. An unscrupulous Japanese worker sending it to a Chinese friend? A Chinese-American unscrupulous Apple employee? So many questions.

[Art_from_Ark]

68. There are a few Apple Centers in Hong Kong

Here is one:

http://homepage.mac.com/francisyip/PhotoAlbum4.html

[xultar]

6. Is it really LBN? I've known about it for weeks. Most GEEKS have known

about this for at least a week and a half.

move along, nothing to see here...

[merwin]

9. Not LBN. Moving to GD.

[BiggJawn]

10. Big Effin' Whoopee.

I can't even justify the $99 for a "Shuffle" in light of current fuel prices and the heating fuel projections for this winter...

Why thankee kindly, Squire Gates, I believe I WILL have some cake... Ms. Antionette was right.

Shiny baubles to take our minds off our troubles...

[nickgutierrez]

12. I think this is a mistake

Where is the (legal) content for a video iPod? Also, aren't they kinda "cannibalizing" the sales for their new iPod Nano?

I really thought they would annouce a new set of notebooks today, and that the Video iPod rumors were just that.

[NYC Liberal]

14. iTunes - music videos and TV shows now for $1.99 an ep./video

[confludemocrat]

29. They have just posted 3 episodes of "Desperate Housewives"

updating the site seems to be in progress right now

[NYC Liberal]

31. Can you link it?

Where did you see it?

I tried clicking on Category: TV Shows from the LOST page in iTunes but it doesn't show up.

[AlCzervik]

32. i only saw lost as well, i dont think other shows are up yet

i bet by tonight they will be.

[NYC Liberal]

35. I'm downloading an episode of Lost to try this out.

I'll post my thoughts when it's done. It's going pretty fast...about a minute and it's already more than 1/4 of the way done.

[NYC Liberal]

42. Desperate Houswives is up now (link):

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewTVSeason?id=82043297&s=143441

[AlCzervik]

46. how did your download work out?

[NYC Liberal]

48. It took about 5-6 minutes, on a broadband connection. 209.9MB.

But the quality is not the greatest. It's not HD and I can get better quality download using a torrent. Obviously, though, torrents aren't as reliable. So I'm up in the air. Hopefully they'll get an even better selection soon.

[AlCzervik]

49. i'm downloading desperate housewives right now, i'll let you

know how it looks.

[NYC Liberal]

50. Cool. Sounds good.

[AlCzervik]

55. ok it took about 5 minutes and then i installed the newest version of

quick time, i'm watching it now and the picture quality is very good.

[Tesha]

15. iPod nano is a radically different size.

The video iPods are 20 and 60 GB; the nano is 2 and 4 GB.

The video will be your own or certain videos bought through
the iTunes music store and containing DRM (Digital Rights
Management).

Plus, you know what they say "If you don't eat your own lunch,
someone else will eat it for you!". In other words, don't fear
canabalizing your own product line.

Tesha

[pattim]

17. Cannibalizing your product line is something Apple fears.

Hence the discontinuation of the Mini.

[NYC Liberal]

18. I do disagree with DRM on the music videos

considering I can download them now for free and without DRM.

No burning TV shows or music videos to CD/DVD either.

[nickgutierrez]

22. And this is my point

You don't need to worry about there being a legal path to a library full of MP3s - all you need to do is rip your CDs to your computer. There is no such legal path with video, and while the iTunes video store (which I'll admit - I didn't know anything about) is a step in the right direction, there is no legal way to rip DVDs to CD, nor is there a legal way before the video store to have a library of TV shows or movies.

I guess my point is that I think Apple is overestimating the market for this, as I don't really see this as necessary.

[pattim]

16. That would be

television shows and music videos that will be sold through the iTMS. And this isn't in the same product category as the iPod Nano. That's their midrange product, this is the highest-end. Presumably all iPods will be sold like this within 15 months, just as the iPod and iPod Photo lines merged.

[nickgutierrez]

24. I understand the mid-level vs. high-end distinction

What I'm saying is that the timing seems odd. They're releasing a new product in a product line right in the middle of a huge promotional push for a current item. It makes it look like they're either not doing as well as they hoped or they're predicting a big dropoff.

[pattim]

26. Well, they literally cannot meet demand for the Nano, so I don't think

that's it. Rather, I see this as a continuation of the slowly-accelerating pace of iPod releases. I think they're honestly trying to drown their competition with hype, to solidify the Apple "cutting edge" reputation. About the time Creative and SanDisk start to catch their breath, Apple will either increase storage, slash prices, or both. And then will release a new product line a few months afterwards.

This has a very narrow market it's aimed for--early adopters and the highly tech-savvy. And that's okay. Remember, the iPod photo also appeared that way too—virtually useless unles you were a tech-head who had to have everything. I mean, who needs photos in their music player? Nobody, really. But it still kept their edge in the Sharper-Image market, and photos now come standard, just as video will soon. This is what Apple does with introductions of features--first have it be ridiculously expensive, who-would-buy-this-useless-thing, then drop price, then make standard. Did it with the first iPod (500 bucks for a glorified CD player?), the Mini (who would pay that much for that little storage?), the Photo (who would pay for pictures on a music device?) and now the Video.

[alfredo]

34. I love the idea of being able to take a video over to a friend's house

plug my iPod into their computer or TV and enjoy. I can see this being used by music video makers, DJ's and so forth.

[NYC Liberal]

37. What about...The Daily Show! If they get that up on iTunes, I'll

be thrilled! That's one full TV show that I could watch on the subway

[alfredo]

38. But you know vPod porn will be the

big market. QuickTime was the format of choice when porn hit the internet. Apple didn't speak of that, but the tech writers knew.

[NYC Liberal]

40. I wonder if it will support anything other than MPEG-4?

The TV shows are in .m4v format. I haven't seen any mention of DiVX support yet.

[alfredo]

43. I'm sure there is some 16 year old working it all out

at this moment.

[NYC Liberal]

45. That and the DRM.

But I downloaded an episode of Lost and to be honest the quality is not the greatest. I can get much better, full quality (HD) videos with a torrent.

[alfredo]

64. Let them know your experience.

[eeyore]

47. Pro Photographers need the iPod photo.

I use mine when I go out in the field to dump all of my digital photos from my card. Then I sync with my laptop for a backup. I can walk around with thousands of photos and I can run presentations directly from the iPod. That's pretty brilliant for my world. The video iPod just increases my possibilities. mmmm........techy!

[AlCzervik]

25. i'm sure the legal dept. is already working on that and the NANO

will still be purchased along with this new ipod, a lot of people have more then one ipod, a shuffle and a regular and now a nano and a video ipod. I'm sure new notebooks will come out, a new imac also came out today so the notebooks won't be far behind but then again i am totaaly biased, my husband works for Apple and they've been putting food on our family for almost 6 years now and they have been a great company to work at.

[nickgutierrez]

27. I love Apple's computers

I've got a three year old iBook that still runs brilliantly, and I'm curious about the new iMac that was released as I was considering something from the iMac line for its replacement.

[AlCzervik]

28. The apple site is busy so i can't get on but from what my husband

told me it's a bit thinner then last years, it has a built in camera for video conferencing and the video ichat thing and some other features. I want one but of course i'll be the last to get one cause thats how it goes, he was working for apple for 2 years before we got this imac, it's the one that looks like a desk-lamp or bonnet hair dryer.

[DemNoir]

19. I wish they would go back to computers

Who the hell wants to watch video on a tiny screen? What we need from Apple is a Pentium M Powerbook!

[pattim]

20. But, see, this is profitable and successful.

Whereas their computers, well, not so much. I mean, I love my Powerbook, but iPods are the big product now, not their computers.

[Cults4Bush]

61. Thats the way I like it, keep under 10% market share and above 5.

I do not want everyone on macs for a variety of reasons.

I love my new Imac G5 to pieces... though there does seem to be two tiny teeny clusters of about 5 or 6 pixels that have grayed on my LCD.

Now I'm wondering if I should wait another couple of months and take it in and see if I can just plop down some more cash and get the new one?? Do you know if thats possible, do they do deals like that? Its an obvious factory defect and I bought mine straight off the Apple site.

I also owned a first gen iMac bondi blue, was actually one of the last ones they made of the first series before they fixed the slot loader. Ran bad ass all the wya up until last year when it just couldn't handle the workload anymore. Im keeping it forever the damn thing single handledy changed product design forever. Remember all computers were beige or black back then?

[NYC Liberal]

21. PowerBooks with Intel processors are coming next year.

[Atman]

39. Apple makes 'em too good

They don't fall apart (or get thrown across the room) the way cheap peecees so often do. Their market has trouble expanding because of all the people who won't switch due to libraries of old WinX software. On the other hand, there are the people like me, who own rugged old iMacs that do everything, and therefore can't justify the expense of an upgrade. I mean, I'm using a crappy old iMac DV400 (that means it is a 400mhz G3, for you non-Applets). I've upgraded the HD to an 80gb internal, I've got 758mb of ram in it, it's got a Firewire CD burner, DVD, and it's running the latest version of OSX (10.4.2). I'd love to buy a new computer, but I can't justify it. I run Photoshop, Illustrator, GoLive, iTunes, Mail, FireFox, Dashboard, and more all at the same time -- in fact, they're all running as I type this. When I have to decide whether to spend $800 or more on stuff like HEATING OIL or a new computer, a new computer is a tough sell.

If Apple just made them fall apart like peecees do, or required me to upgrade the computer in order to run the OS they've foisted upon me, then I'd have to, I suppose. For now...I'll "cope" with my trusty ol' iMac. And perhaps spend the money on another iPod, instead!

[Elwood P Dowd]

41. I'm in the same boat

Running my 6-year-old iMacs (333 and 350) simply because I cannot justify the price of newer ones. I would also have to buy new software for OS-10 since I'm still using 8.6 on one and 9.1 on the other. Might buy a used eMac later on if I can find one in the $400 range.

[Cats Against Frist]

53. I love Apple, and I'm going to buy a new one pretty soon, but

I got FUCKED on a Performa, back in 1996. OK -- so, maybe I'm clueless, and it was a stupid purchase -- but that thing was a piece of shit. I have a Gateway that's been running, top notch, for about five years (a 400mhz), and I inherited it, used. I wouldn't purchase a Dell if you threatened my life, though -- and my bf gets a phat discount on them, through his work.

[Elwood P Dowd]

56. Many of the Performas were absolute dogs!

I have a couple of old ones collecting dust in my storage house. I think the nickname was "Road Apples". Don't judge Apple based on those things.

[Atman]

59. Oh, yeah...the Performa era. Apple's dark days.

When they tried to sell Sears models, and twenty versions of the exact same machine, with different nameplates? Wasn't that when Scully (PepsiCo) was in charge?

Ugh. I'd forgotten about those days. For good reason!

[confludemocrat]

30. iPod store has the new units posted now:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/71606/wo/iH7RngnnsXSZ2BzisEt1KbFwFAP/0.SLID?nclm=iPod&mco=CC4D3CBB

[confludemocrat]

33. iTunes 6 just made available n/t

[geomon666]

51. This is nothing new.

They've had video/mp3 players for awhile now. But of course, since it's iPOD, it's now news. iPOD is nothing special, just more popular for some reason.

[fujiyama]

60. Finally someone said it

The technology is nothing new.

IPods are certainly cool toys, but that's all they are - cool toys. This isn't a breakthrough technological wonder or anything.

[NYCGirl]

62. But it's the only one that looks like THIS:

Oh, baby! That's a beautiful machine.

[fujiyama]

63. I will admit

it's a nice looking product, as are most Apple products.

I still don't see it as a major technological breakthrough. Don't get me wrong, I love electronic toys as much as anyone else (I bought an mp3 player before iPods even came out), but I still don't see why this is such a big deal.

[eeyore]

52. iPorn

I've been thinking about this being the next evolution for years. Now all they have to do is make a model called the iPorn, sell it loaded with movies, and Apple will never have financial woes again. Of course they'd have to make it waterproof. :puke:

[NYC Liberal]

54. Eeeewwww...LOL!

:P

[pattim]

58. Already has that covered, actually

http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/10/iporn.html ;)

[confludemocrat]

65. no pun intended, right? n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

57. That would be neat to have

What all will you be able to watch on them? Full length movies or just video's?

[confludemocrat]

66. they claim 150 hours of video. watch for products to make it a mini Tivo

the dock it comes with has video connectors so you could probably watch your downloaded videos on a TV

[lateo]

67. Cool.

Yet another gadget to over stimulate our little monkey minds. Just what we need!