Plamegate/Treasongate Addicts what have I missed in the last

[texpatriot2004]

7-8 hours? I know, am I a news junkie for this case or what. Any new articles? Threads? What have you all been talking about today? Can someone update me please, pretty please with an indictment on top?

[savemefromdumbya]

1. The media are camping outside the court

just like they did in the 'old days' Watergate, Iran-contra.

[McCamy Taylor]

2. LOL

Salon has several very good threads on the topic in the White House section.

[Brotherjohn]

3. I assume you've seen the WSJ story?

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB112907415441266084-VDsI1ez92Qlr0_XPP5IbwfiUKHI_20051111.html?mod=blogs

[Brotherjohn]

7. And then David Corn's recent observation that Rove's own words...

... almost insure an indictment, and prove he's guilty of insubordination (and that Bush's words have been hollow).

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20051012/cm_thenation/328485

[texpatriot2004]

10. Can you help me out with this one? What is the gist of it? From

first glance it seems to suggest that they are peddling this * would never do that so Rove defied him crap? Are they?

[Brotherjohn]

16. I think the last paragraph sums it up rather nicely.

It's an "either this happened, or that happened... only possible explanations" type of thing.

Rove has been shown to shift his stories, and to have released classified info. His own words indict him.

Either the president knew this or he didn't (there's really little way to prove this, so Corn is just taking logical steps to guess what happened). If Bush didn't know, he should now and Rove should have already been fired (thus, he's not a man of his word). If Bush did know, then he's part of the leak (or the coverup, obstruction, etc.)... and likely subject to indiuctment himself.

I have a hard time believing Fitzgerald could get proof of the latter, though.

EDIT:
I don't think that David Corn thinks "Bush would never have done this". He's a vehement Bush critic. I think he doesn't know how you can PROVE Bush knew anything, though. But he believes Rove's and Bush's words, taken together, prove that Rove committed a crime, and that Bush doesn't care.

[texpatriot2004]

8. Yes, got that one. Thanks. nm

[hang a left]

4. Well Judith has testified and left the courthouse all in smiles.

See Stephanies thread for that.

CNN- supposedly commented that Judy testified about another source, other that Libby.

People have been guessing when and how many indictments are coming there is a thread on that on the first page.

No news is still news around here. I am waiting for the end of the day when all the leaks from the lawyers hit.

[hang a left]

9. Oh yeah...

and sporadic posts about how there are not going to be any indictments. Can't believe anyone could say that at this point but hey, to each his own.

[LSparkle]

5. Judy Miller returned to GJ today and KKKarl due on Friday

Jack Cafferty is absolutely LOVING this -- he just said how satisfying it would be to see people who've done wrong "in handcuffs." !!!!!! LOVE THAT JACK!

[grytpype]

6. Honestly, not much new news.

The idea that Fitzgerald is looking at conspiracy charges that might involve members of the WHIG got recycled last night to great fanfare, but that was not new.

Miller testified today for an hour. There is some speculation that she had a second source in addition to Scooter, that is not confirmed.

Huffington Post said that WSJ and Bloomberg were about to run stories stating that Cheney might be a target of the investigation, that did not happen as far as I am aware. WSJ ran a story but did not single out Cheney as a possible target.

[Brotherjohn]

17. I saw that, and then saw that HuffPo toned down their later headlines.

They realized maybe they jumped the gun?

The WSJ story doesn't directly mention Cheney as a target (though it does expand the focus to the WHIG). As to the Bloomberg story, I guess we're still waiting on that one?

It could still expand to Cheney. The WHIG was his baby, and Libby is, after all, his Chief of Staff.

[H2O Man]

11. Like a broken record ....

I continue to suggest that people watch Matthews on Hardball ... he has to contend with not only his attorneys' advice, but also those of MSNBC, in determining how far he can go. But he is also a competitive reporter with the other corporate talking heads. While not at the level of what we might wish for, he does want to break this wide open. C'mon Chris!

[hang a left]

12. what time does he come on?

I am gonna be in the car and will be tuning in to MSNBC

[texpatriot2004]

14. Texas time 6 PM nm

[hang a left]

15. I could have sworn I hear him on XM yesterday 2pm PST.

[texpatriot2004]

13. I have watched him the last two days and I will as long as he's

talking about it.

[H2O Man]

18. It's interesting now .....

and Chris is doing well!!!

[texpatriot2004]

19. What's happened since 6 PM besides Hardball and Countdown

What's the latest?