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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:39 PM
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I'm getting angry watching Olbermann's Nexus of Terror
Sheesh, this is damning.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:41 PM
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1. He's laying it out, for damn sure.
Go KO!!
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:42 PM
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3. Suggested it's fearmongering. Damn straight!
:grr:
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 08:20 PM
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42. VIDEO- Politics of Nexus of Terror
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:41 PM
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2. You may be angry
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 07:42 PM by malaise
but surely you're not surprised. We've all followed these weird goings on.
Edit -sp.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:43 PM
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8. Not surprised at all, just angry-terror attacks so transparent
reminded me of the one against the DNC and how fake it was. But it worked.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:50 PM
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24. KO discussing that now
They make me sick. The DNC was the worst of them.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:53 PM
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33. Yes, and remember there was NO threat for the RNC shortly thereafter
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:56 PM
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36. Ah well
on with the pandemic. They know people have seen through the terror alerts. These fuggers are crying wolf with people's lives. Absolute criminal behavior.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:44 PM
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70. Criminal behavior for WH and a complicit media who helps them get away
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 12:45 PM by blm
with it.

This is the FIRST time these facts are being discussed in the media when they had access to MOST of this information BEFORE THE ELECTION.

Just like all of DC media KNEW that Rove was the leaker for TWO YEARS, but they CHOSE not to tell the voting public about the traitorous White House.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:30 PM
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63. Yep
Whenever Kerry got a head in the polls: terra, terra! Be afraid! And remember when Cheney said if you vote for the wrong person you'll get attacked again? And than the latest "threat" in NYC. That should show people that Bush isn't doing anything to help secure us.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:42 PM
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4. If it's not criminal, it should be.
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 07:42 PM by spanone
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:31 PM
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64. It was voter manipulation all last year.
Especially when big issues were due to be aired.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:42 PM
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5. This is outrageous -- phony threats to steal press time and
keep the citizenry cowed and unfocused on Bush shortcomings. They have no shame at all -- and no integrity.

And I don't want to hear Tweety saying that this is just "tough politicking".
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:42 PM
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6. That's what I was thinking. The list is damning.
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 07:43 PM by highplainsdem
I always had my suspicions before, but once you see the information laid out that way, it's clear what they're doing. It should be clear to everyone watching.

And yes, I'm angry, too.
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shoopnyc Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:42 PM
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7. That was incredible! eom
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:43 PM
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9. I wonder how he was able to put this on?
Some of these incidents are blunt accusation of the administration's using trra to gain advantage during the elections. Noone in the MSM has ever put it this way before...I love it!!!
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:44 PM
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10. Countdown is the only reason I have MSNBC not blocked
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:45 PM
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13. This is a great segment! When he said editorial I knew it would be good.
:)
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SupplyConcerns Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:25 PM
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45. How long has KO had intergrity?
I must have missed something for the last few years, because up until his well-circulated opinion piece on the Neo-cons' response to Katrina, I just lumped Olbermann in with the rest of the lot. Speaking of the rest of the lot, anyone caught Stephen Colbert's new show?
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:45 PM
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48. I think probably since birth
Or his parents raised him with it and it stuck.

Surprisingly enough, many people still don't realize he was the only mainstream journalist to question the Ohio election results last year, night after night, on his show.

This is nothing new for him. Which is wonderful. He just keeps getting better.
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SupplyConcerns Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:06 PM
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55. Cool. Thanks for the info.
I worked in Ohio to help get Kerry elected, so it hurts all the more how no one around me seems to have considered that 2004 was stolen. And I go to Oberlin College, one of the most left-wing schools in the country, near Cleveland.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:42 AM
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59. KO is different, and his is the only cable news show I watch. n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:32 PM
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66. Stephen's show isn't on yet
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:45 PM
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12. Keith is a maverick of sorts. Maybe he has some dirt on a bigwig at NBC
:D
Oh, welcome to DU!
:toast:
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:50 PM
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25. Thanks
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:32 PM
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65. The thing I'm wondering
is how he's kept his job all this time! He's the most damning reporter out there to the Bush administration.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:44 PM
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11. this is blockbuster stuff
folks-coincidences?yea right at no more than 3 days after some bad news comes out FOR Bushco we get zapped with another bogus warning.Up comes Asa-to try and throw water on the fire that's burning-let's see what he says-I have my suspicions...
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:45 PM
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14. It is pretty sad
Is it a government for the people or a government against the people?
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:46 PM
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15. Should we nominate this thread or wait for a video to surface?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:53 PM
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31. i hope C&L has it soon
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:56 PM
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35. Nominate. Crooks & Liars will probably have the video later
(though for some reason they didn't have video of what he said last Thursday on this subject).
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 08:03 PM
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39. I'm putting it up on CanOFun shortly
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:46 PM
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16. Asa Hutchinson shilling for bush*co. What did I expect?
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:51 PM
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29. HE has no credibility-it's too late to try to put the cow back in the barn
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:52 PM
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30. This guy had some job in this area when all
of this was going on. So I am not surprised.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:47 PM
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17. I look forward to watching it again on your webpage
You have the best collection of clips on the planet.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:49 PM
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22. I'm working on it now
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:47 PM
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18. You need'nt worry.
Asa Hutchinson just told Kieth his piece is hogwash. :eyes:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:47 PM
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19. Asa Hutchinson is up next...
to make all of this reality go poof! It Is A SHAME Keith did not get someone like Richard Clarke on instead. :(
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:48 PM
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20. Bet Keith's corporate bosses made him put Asa Hutchinson on.
Gee, HE wouldn't have any reason to LIE now would he, given he was intimately involved in the fake terror threats? :eyes:
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:50 PM
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23. F I know !
Why even bother? As soon as a saw the scorn on the weasel's face I turned it off. Why have this piece and then have him on to say nothing to see here?! Maddening indeed.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:53 PM
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I also turned it off when KO announced that Hutchinson was coming on next.
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readermostly Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 10:52 PM
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52. Oh, but you shouldn't have turned it off. Asa's lying nose kept getting
longer the more he talked. HA!!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:04 AM
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57. ROTFLMAO!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 08:13 PM
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41. Because it's called being a REALLY fair and balanced journalist?
Allowing a disbeliever equal time to tell his story...and REALLY allowing the viewer to decide who is credible and who is not...the other guy, or you?

Using your brain to assess what the media tell you...what a concept!
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magnolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:51 PM
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49. Keith told Hutchison...at the end...
...that he didn't agree with him.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 10:57 PM
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53. I was upset with Asa's lies and elated when KO said he didn't agree!
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:49 PM
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21. so will everyone else, which is about time
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:50 PM
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26. link to keith's blog on the same
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:51 PM
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27. i was angry, but not anymore
asa just said not once, ever, was poLitics invoLved in raising the terror LeveL.

i'm moLLified.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:42 PM
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68. Oh I'm sure not
:sarcasm: :eyes: Remember the RNC convention? Boogey boogey!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:51 PM
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28. There were graphs showing the "coincidence" of terror alerts and
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 07:52 PM by BrklynLiberal
BushCo negative press in the past..many of them have appeared here on DU.
This information should come as no surprise. The only surprise is that it is being shown on what could be considered something like the mainstream media.
It will be poo-pooed and bad-mouthed of course...but its validity cannot be denied.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:53 PM
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32. Did he mention Bin Laden tape coming out Friday before election?
Kerry was gaining momentum in the polls and many in the media and here on DU thought he would win the election with all the bad news coming out then against the Bush Administration. Then the Bin Laden tape surfaced the weekend before the election which stalled Kerry's momentum with the media message that Americans needed to support Bush or they would be signaling support to the terrorists by voting for Kerry.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:54 PM
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34. How 'bout that...10 straight times...what a coincidence! n/t
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:59 PM
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38. Nope
Can't go there. God forbid. Basically this piece was a limited hangout. I'm not blaming Keith. He knows we are being had. Ridge admitted it too but it's still verboten to admit your government is scaring you to the hilt. What was Iraq all about anyway? FEAR. But the point is-the public catches on that they are being had and then they show it in a limited way and deny it to the hilt, call you crazy and say what are you some kind of "conspiracy nut"?? Snort. Damn even the housewives are catching on..got to "report it" then deny.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:10 PM
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44. He did mention OBL tape coincidence on Thursday or Friday (last
week) when he first began what he labeled as 13 Coincidences. Tonight I think, is the first time he pared it down to 10. I'm sure that Asa was not his idea, and he would have kept the original 13. When he first talked about the terror alerts coincidentally occuring just after a major B* SNAFU, (must have been wed or thurs, not thur/fri) he didn't appear on the following evening and had someone cover for him (the blonde?). I honestly worried that they had fired him because the initial coverage was so inflammatory. (Of course, this is not really news for DUers.)
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:41 PM
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46. Yes, it's one of the "extra three" that are in the blog but not on TV
It's here with the rest of them:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9665308/#051012a
(snip)

Number Eleven:

October 22nd, 2004. After weeks of Administration insistence that there are terrorist plans to disrupt the elections, FBI, Law Enforcement, and other U.S. Intelligence agencies report they have found no direct evidence of any plot. More over, they say, a key CIA source who had claimed knowledge of the plot, has been discredited.

October 29, 2004. Seven days later - four days before the Presidential election - the first supposedly new, datable tape of Osama Bin Laden since December 2001 is aired on the Al-Jazeera Network. A Bush-Cheney campaign official anonymously tells the New York Daily News that from his campaign’s point of view, the tape is quote “a little gift.”

(snip)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:39 PM
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67. After Kerry won all 3 debates they used their media whores to trumpet the
Bin Laden tape and declare emphatically that "Bush can't be beat on the terror issue."

It was sickening how often that propaganda line was catapulted.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:57 PM
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37. here are numbers 11-12-and 13
Number Eleven:

October 22nd, 2004. After weeks of Administration insistence that there are terrorist plans to disrupt the elections, FBI, Law Enforcement, and other U.S. Intelligence agencies report they have found no direct evidence of any plot. More over, they say, a key CIA source who had claimed knowledge of the plot, has been discredited.

October 29, 2004. Seven days later - four days before the Presidential election - the first supposedly new, datable tape of Osama Bin Laden since December 2001 is aired on the Al-Jazeera Network. A Bush-Cheney campaign official anonymously tells the New York Daily News that from his campaign’s point of view, the tape is quote “a little gift.”

Number Twelve:

May 5th, 2005. 88 members of the United States House of Representatives send a letter to President Bush demanding an investigation of the so-called “Downing Street Memo” - a British document which describes purported American desire dating to 2002 to "fix" the evidence to fit the charges against Iraq. In Iraq over the following weekend, car bombings escalate. On the 11th, more than 75 Iraqis are killed in one.

May 11th, 2005. Later that day, an instructor and student pilot violate restricted airspace in Washington D.C. It is an event that happens hundreds of times a year, but this time the plane gets to within three miles of the White House. The Capitol is evacuated; Vice President Cheney, the First Lady, and Nancy Reagan are all rushed to secure locations. The President, biking through woods, is not immediately notified.

Number Thirteen:

June 26th, 2005. A Gallup poll suggests that 61 percent of the American public believes the President does not have a plan in Iraq. On the 28th, Mr. Bush speaks to the nation from Fort Bragg: "We fight today because terrorists want to attack our country and kill our citizens, and Iraq is where they are making their stand. So we'll fight them there, we'll fight them across the world, and we will stay in the fight until the fight is won."

June 29th 2005. The next day, another private pilot veers into restricted airspace, the Capitol is again evacuated, and this time, so is the President.

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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 08:07 PM
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40. The Dems in Congress should
propose a law that would make it illegal to issue terrorist warnings and threats for political purposes..It wont matter if it doesn’t pass. It will get all the MSM talking about it though and everybody already knows that what those bastards do.

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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 08:52 PM
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43. When have the Democrats really challenged any of this? n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:45 PM
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47. ***Downloadable wmv VIDEO - Olbermann's Nexus of Terror***
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 09:45 PM by Nothing Without Hope
It's also in Windows Media format and DOWNLOADS rather than streams. It does NOT include the Hutchinson segment. It's about 12 min long and is downloaded as an 8.5 mg wmv file:

http://www.ameratsu.com/media/vid/msnbc/msnbc_ko_nexus_politics_terrori_051012a.wmv



This video file was posted by dzika (David Edwards) at BradBlog here:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001917.htm
He says he will post additional video formats when they become available.

Thanks, dzika! :hi:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:46 PM
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71. I really liked his layout about all of this
It's really simple and easy for anyone to understand. And I remember reading how before 9/11 a student in California reported someone stole his information and he never got it back. I wonder if any of these people being mentioned are really guilty. My mind is very doubtful.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:51 PM
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50. emails and web sites for Keith Olbermann and his show:
Keith's email: KOlbermann@msnbc.com
Countdown show email: Countdown@msnbc.com
Web site for Keith's blog: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240
Web site for show transcripts (appear about a day after broadcast): http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3719710

The blog currently has the text of his show, including ALL THIRTEEN "coincidences" - only TEN were on the broadcast. Here is the PERMALINK for this blog entry:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9665308/#051012a
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 10:48 PM
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51. Just sent him a supportive email.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:00 PM
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54. I have been onto this for quite a long time now and in fact wanted to
know last year if anyone was charting this. Indeed someone did on the net through 8/2004.

At Juliusblog.com If you scroll down to the beginning of Aug 2004, you'll see it.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:20 PM
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60. Apparently KO lifted the material from Juliusblog.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:25 PM
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61. not sure about that. Info's a matter of public record and
could have been compiled from any number of sources.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:43 PM
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69. Sorry, but some of the cases he mention are almost word by word
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 12:44 PM by Julius Civitatus
from my study.

http://juliusblog.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_juliusblog_archive.html#109156476570482138

I like his show and I like Keith Olbermann's show, but this ticks me off a little. My study has been available on the web for over a year, and had lots and lots of viewers.

Yes, there may be a chance he has never seen my chart or study, but let me point that last year my article was referenced by Salon.com, Eric Alterman in MSNBC, The Nation, Mother Jones, Randi Rhodes and the Majority Report at Air America Radio. It definitely had a wide viral spread and by the way, I received dozens of death threats from freepers and LGF'ers for my post, and a dos attack on my email account. It wasn't a nice experience at all.

Olbermann has credited bloggers before for articles and stories. I don't understand why he didn't this time around.

I wonder if some of his assistants or interns "lifted" my study and presented it to KO as his own, hoping for a promotion. This type of crap happens all the time.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:42 PM
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72. It does seem out of character for him not to credit you
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 01:42 PM by gkhouston
which is why I wondered if the material had come from a variety of sources. :thumbsdown: if he or one of his staffers lifted the material without proper credit.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 11:27 PM
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56. I've noticed a pattern for sometime now.............
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 12:16 AM by Historic NY
Shrub with some chicken little speech.

Some supposed letter that come from Al Qaeda (more like Repug talking points.)usually confirmed as false in a couple of days.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101353.html

A heighten alert....lets see, trains, subways, Wall St., etc.

A new round of Clinton bashings


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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:15 AM
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58. Mike Webb is discussing Olbermann's Nexus of Terror -- listen link
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:29 PM
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62. I'm glad Keith did this report
Hopefully now it'll show people how Bush is really fucking with our lives and making us less safe and more dangerous. What would happen if they really did have a terror alert and people ignored them? People could get really hurt.
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