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Wed Oct-12-05 08:45 PM
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In light of GOP protestations, bush must really, REALLY want Miers for SC. |
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He must be willing to risk it all for *some* reason.
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Wed Oct-12-05 08:47 PM
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1. it is because he knows the USA has no true opposition party and |
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he will most likely get away with it.
Msongs www.msongs.com/clark2008.htm
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Wed Oct-12-05 08:47 PM
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2. She's really stroked his ego. |
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Wed Oct-12-05 08:49 PM
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3. He's just that stubborn. |
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So what if everyone, I mean EVERYONE disagrees with it--he'll do it and be damned. How dare anyone disagree with him!!! President George Mandate Bush!! :sarcasm:
Besides. He needs someone on the Court that will lean towards forgiving his various crimes and misdemeanors.
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Wed Oct-12-05 08:50 PM
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4. My theory, for what it's worth, is that he's so arrogant, and |
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so out of touch, that he doesn't know and/or doesn't care about the criticism, even though much of it is coming from his own party. He believes what he believes; he's absolutely pig-headed; and if he thinks his ass-kissing crony is the right choice for the Supreme Court (probably *because* she's a crony -- to him, the fact that she apparently adores his sorry ass like she was some dippy schoolgirl with a crush on the captain of the football team just proves she's the best) -- well, by golly, that's the way it's going to be. No argument allowed.
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:27 PM
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18. If Cond's not around to "tell" him the new's who's he got..? |
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Wed Oct-12-05 08:51 PM
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5. I think it's just another example of his arrogance. "If I say this is the |
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way it's going to be, than that's it! Over, done deal!"
He's like that with everything. It's even what he says to the public. I am an unwavering President. When I make a decision, I stick with it!
Of course it doesn't matter if that decision was wrong! It just matters that he doesn't change his mind!
I don't know if Harriett will decide, for herself, that this is just not worth all the BS.
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Wed Oct-12-05 08:52 PM
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He's just incredibly stubborn and hates not getting his way. He's proven that over and over again. He never backs down, even when it's extremely detrimental to him personally.
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Wed Oct-12-05 08:53 PM
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7. Think of the Miers nomination as the Iraq of supreme court appointments. |
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Bush knows it isn't going well, and has little hope of it ever going well, but can't admit it without implicitly admitting an error.
So it's stay the course and hope something turns up that will win the day or at least save face.
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Wed Oct-12-05 08:58 PM
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8. Maybe a dim question, but has there been a lot of |
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Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 09:06 PM by bliss_eternal
opposition from the GOP?
I've not paid much attention to what their side had to say. Been plenty busy with confusion on our side as to why he would even nominate this seemingly anonymous woman.
I saw some initial rumblings from their side, right after she was announced, but haven't really stayed current with it...
Are they still not happy? I thought after Cheney said what he did about her, they would have kind of let it go.
Or do they just not feel she's worthy?
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:09 PM
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14. Well, the right that supports bush, at any rate. |
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There's been a LOT of rightwing opposition, and in trying to fit everything into the subject line, I may have chosen my term poorly.
Apologies from this ignorant Canadian if that's the case.
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:47 PM
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20. LOL! No need to apologize. |
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I appreciate your answer to my question! :hi:
I actually trust news coming from Canada--I believe your coverage of OUR news is better. How sad is that? LOL!
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:52 PM
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Most of my news is via DU, AMERICAblog, BartCop, and Crooks and Liars!
YOU take the bow! :toast:
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:11 PM
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17. The GOP grassroots are practically in revolt |
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A handful of GOP Senators are openly critical, many are openly skeptical, and the rest are saying nothing at all.
Almost no one from the GOP is enthusiastically supporting her. The best he can get is "let's wait and see how she does at the hearings."
Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:45 PM
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19. I'm really surprised... |
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It seemed (for a while) they just followed whatever he wanted, without much questioning. This is interesting!
Thank you--I appreciate your response to my question!
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:53 PM
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22. How many have said they are voting against her? |
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I haven't heard any numbers. Republicans don't usually stray off the reservation too much. Pretty disciplined bunch. They may talk a good game occasionally, especially with the elections coming up, but I bet when the rubber hits the road it will be unanimous.
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Wed Oct-12-05 11:07 PM
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They expressing a lot of skepticism, but taking a wait and see attitude.
I think they REALLY want Bush to withdraw Miers or for Miers to withdraw herself very badly. Bush sure as hell won't withdraw her, he's too stubborn, but Harriet may choose to save herself the embarrassment of getting "Borked".
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Wed Oct-12-05 08:58 PM
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9. this is where, in childhood, babs would come up and say, "if that's how w |
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wants it, that's how it'll be."
* expects to get what he wants when he throws a tantrum, and you just know this man knows how to throw a tantrum.
What gets me is that some other politicians and personalities continue to fall to their knees, eager to cater to his demands, unqeustioningly.
If you lean toward bush being just a hapless puppet for an anti-American cabal, as seems obvious to me, then it makes it all the more bizarre. Must those truly running the country cater to the bozo simply to keep him from publicly coming apart?
Can he trust his own inner circle. I'm sure they all feel he's more expendable than they are.
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:00 PM
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10. Sure. He plans to claim the Louis XIV defense against WH crimes. |
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He won't fire anybody, let alone himself. Then they'll stonewall and ignore the lower court verdicts. It will be the worst Constitutional crisis in history and will be taken by the SCOTUS for resolve. WIth Miers counted they will absolve him and the WH of all crime. Scotus freeus. She has promised to save this lying ass. He doesn't give a flying f**k how she will vote on conservative issues or abortion. Just keep the most brilliant man she has ever met from swinging at the end of a piano-wire noose. It's enough to make one want to discuss scatology!
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:00 PM
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11. He *can't* withdraw her. His whole public persona is built around the |
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"strong leader who never backs down" act. To retract Miers is to admit to weakness. Authoritarians may have a flare for theater, but they're also bound by it.
And on top of that, he's a petulant little shit. An elderly toddler. Georgie wants what he wants.
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:07 PM
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12. Easy to "stay the course" when your head is filled with concrete. |
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:07 PM
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13. Good points--welcome to DU, Tower! |
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:09 PM
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15. Or he is dangerously out of touch. |
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Seriously, from all that we've read about this man it's possible to consider that he may not really even KNOW about any opposition. What he hears may not even register as opposition.
Maybe nobody has yet made him a DVD of news coverage of the controversy.
I know I sound flip but honestly this is what people mean when they say "increasingly detached from reality"
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:10 PM
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16. She was his chief consultant. |
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Even closer to him than Rove. Like his nanny.
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Wed Oct-12-05 09:54 PM
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23. He is not really putting much at risk... |
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if he gets everyone stirred up over this, then it diverts attention from other little messes. I think he thru Harri in as a diversion so the Dems might mess their pants and lose the ability to mount a united front against the next appointment. If it's Orrin Hatch, as another DU'er on one of the threads is right, then it is almost certain he would win confirmation with hardly a lifted eyebrow. If it's one of the fed. judge possibilities or Gonzales, B*sh will be able to say--you want paper trail--I'm giving you paper trail.
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