Bush Approval Is 2% Among Blacks: NBC

[tgnyc]

If you watch the free video on the MSNBC.com page covering the latest NBC News/WSJ poll, you will hear Tim Russert unload this mindboggling stat. I mean, I bet Newt Gingrich had better numbers than that among blacks when he was in power. I bet Tom DeLay has better numbers than that. I bet Jefferson Davis had better numbers.

[enid602]

1. 2%

Condi, Colin and who else?

[Bumblebee]

6. Clarence Thomas and Armstrong Wlliams; the rest is covered by MoE

[strategery blunder]

39. You forgot the Condiliar!!1! n/t

[MADem]

55. Former Education Secretary Paige is on the list, surely nt

[HamdenRice]

60. LOL! The statistic was two black people not two % of black people! nt

[mtnester]

75. Don't forget Alan Keyes

sheesh, we would not want to insult him like we did Poland fer gawds sake.

[JaneQPublic]

86. Harry Belafonte has a name for those in the 2 percent group. (n/t)

[noahmijo]

23. Yea Ms. Cleo

Hey ya never know!

[AspenRose]

85. Who else: Walter Williams, John McWhorter, Star Parker, T.D. Jakes

Lynn Swan, Karl Mallone, and some policy wonk whose name ecapes me right now....(friend of Walter Williams, shows up on Limbaugh occasionally, Hoover Institute)

Edit: I remember, Thomas Sowell

[SupplyConcerns]

2. With a 2% margin of error, it's safe to say it's 0%.

jk

[MrScorpio]

4. Welcome to DU

Stick around

[Bumblebee]

10. Ditto

:hi: :hi: :hi:

[all.of.me]

12. lol - good one

and welcome to du!

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Good one

and what every body else said, (welcome to DU)

[bdot]

43. I know 1 that worships Bush so it would be more than 0%.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

48. Yeah, but it's a ...

...solid 0%. They're 100% loyal. He can definitely count on them, not that it matters as long as he's got Diebold to do the actual counting.

[Ravenseye]

79. heh what if it's a greater margin of error

approval for Bush among african americans is actually at -1%.

[Selatius]

3. That can't possibly be right

I could believe 5 to 10 percent but 2?

[Sandpiper]

17. It's not that difficult to believe

Bush only received 11% of the black vote in the 2004 election.

Going by that as a barometer, 2% approval would only be a 9 point drop.

[MADem]

56. One word--Katrina

That was the tipping point, I suspect, because the MSM actually covered it, and most of the faces in pain were dark! George Bush really DON'T like black people!!!!

[ultraist]

5. Gee, I wonder why???

:rofl:

So much for earning the votes of the Black community. Bush has totally fucked that up. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who votes Repuke is a racist.

[dweller]

7. that's going to be quite a challenge

for Diebold and Mitofsky next time around.

dp

[Sandpiper]

8. The 2% are Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice...

Ward Connerly, Armstrong Williams, Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell, and Larry Elder.

[qanda]

14. And Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson (eyes rolling)

I'm telling you all from personal experience that Black people can see straight through GWB. Even the Black Republicans that are in my family cannot believe how ridiculous this man is. I've never heard so many of my very religious inner circle so upset with the prominent black preachers who keep aligning themselves with Bush-- it's amazing!

[Skidmore]

54. I watched him a bit yesterday and he appears

to be more focused on trying to discredit Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton and Farrakhan than anything. He's trying to set himself up as the leader. I'm becoming convinced that with him it's all about him.

[burythehatchet]

59. That performance was breathtaking

I tried to call in. My comment would basically have been that any man who spends his time trying to take others down doesn't have a worthy thought in his head. This creep is a true asshole.

[butterfly77]

81. Oh!

I forgot about this dumb bastard.

[Raksha]

19. And don't forget Ken Blackwell! n/t

[butterfly77]

80. especially ...

piece of shit Larry Elder

[kestrel91316]

9. I can't for the life of me figure out why it's so f---ing HIGH!

[lpbk2713]

11. Katherine Harris was in charge of taking the poll ............. n/t

[tgnyc]

40. Ken Blackwell disallowed the responses of some blacks in Cleveland

[Infomaniac]

58. Me either.

I think it's probably along the lines of .02 percent. Somebody moved a decimal point.

[journalist3072]

101. Exactly the point I made!!!

http://progressiveminds.bloghi.com/2005/10/13/who-are-the-2.html

[oregonindy]

13. It went up?

[jaysunb]

15. heheh !

welcome :toast:

[Erika]

16. Add Jesse Peterson and JC Watts

I think that's about it. This country and the world was horrified as we saw our citizens, mostly black, begging for food and water after days of being stranded. It was surreal that we would let our own down like that.

[ultraist]

24. And we will NOT FORGET! n/t

[Cha]

18. Those guys didn't photo

op around for 5 days while Katrina was devastating New Orleans.

[devilgrrl]

21. Proving once again that Black people are smarter than Whites.

:hide:

[Erika]

27. Can't argue with that one.

Not at all.

[Bumblebee]

33. I suspect among black women it's less than 1% because they are doubly

smarter :)

[TahitiNut]

45. Yep. That statistic is almost enough to make me become a racist.

It's clear that blacks have a far keener sense of corruption and bullshit than whites (or others) in this country.

(No, there's no way I'd rationalize racism from any such statistic. It was hyperbole for rhetorical purposes only.)


There is, however, a potentially disturbing subtext to that poll finding. The Reich may now (if not already) freely conclude they don't need to pay any attention to issues of race and the continuing tyrannies of racism - and can still hold both Houses and the Presidency. Indeed, Maciavellian politicians of any stripe could conclude that. That's NOT 'good news.' Have the racists become a critical mass in the Reichpublican Party?

[shrike]

68. Our African-American brethren get it

As I said in another post, when I attend anti-war rallies, every black motorist smiles, waves, gives a thumbs-up. The whites are always the wild cards: usually the very old and the very young, those with the least and most to lose, flip us the finger.

The Black Caucus is the only entity looking our for my best interests at this point, and I'm whiter than white.

Thus, these poll numbers do not surprise me.

[tamtam]

73. LOL

Actually I could direct you to a forum full of black women who love Bushie boy and that idiot Patterson (or whatever his name is). I'll have to post some of their comments about Patterson when I get the time. Warning, you will be shocked and possible become sick to the stomach.

[devilgrrl]

74. I guess that means 2% Blacks are just as prone to stupidy as...

everyone else. :shrug:

[Tomee450]

90. Those posters might not

be black. I've been on forums where it was obvious that some of the posters were pretending to be African Americans. After a while, they gave themselves away. The black posters already knew they were phonies. Sometimes callers to radio shows do the same thing.

[Inland]

84. Well, there's no comeback for that. Stats don't lie and Bush does.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. So much for the "Uniter not a Divder" frame.

[suneel112]

25. "George Bush Hates Black People" - Kanye West

True statement, and they rightfully hate him back.

[phylny]

57. George W. Bush - to paraphrase Kanye West -

"I ain't saying he a gold digger...."

[gratuitous]

26. Two. Per. Cent.

And Mehlman has the audacity . . .

[fortyfeetunder]

28. If it's plus or minus 3% error in the results...

as someone else said, safe to say it's zero or less

[Coyote_Bandit]

29. I know a black female fundie

who thinks shrubbie can do no wrong. WTF?

:crazy:

edit to add: only in JOklahoma....

[AllyCat]

46. It's the Fundie in her that does it. Fundie brainwashing knows no

socio-economic, age, gender, or racial boundaries. They are just idiots by nature.

[tgnyc]

30. Actually, the margin of error for a subgroup like blacks is larger

maybe +/-6. So the real approval could be 8% or could be -4%.

[populistdriven]

31. The rate of mental illness is greater than 2% in any demographic

group

"One-quarter of all Americans met the criteria for having a mental illness within the past year"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/06/AR2005060601651_pf.html

So only the complete psychopaths & criminally insane still support *

[JohnnyCougar]

32. LOL...you are right!

[unblock]

51. i would love to see a correlation between mental illness and party id

my personal experience is that most schizophrenics are republicans.

:shrug:

just sayin'.

[bluedawg12]

34. Armstrong, Condi, Powell is that 2% ??

He's also unpopular with caucasians who were appalled and nauseated by many things but most recently the blatant neglect of the super dome and convention center in NOLA.

[Neil Lisst]

35. I'll bet we can name them all ...

Colin, Condi, Clarence, Keyes ....

[Patsy Stone]

37. Armstrong Williams

[Neil Lisst]

42. Thanks PatsyStone! I thought of him after I posted!

250 grand for stealth shilling?!!

Yeah, he's a puke.



http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst/

[progressivebydesign]

36. No way! With a margin of error, he may be the most hated ever.

Can we have a Mulligan on the last election? Can we have a do-over? Please? Bush wouldn't get it even close enough to steal!

[incapsulated]

38. "I bet Jefferson Davis had better numbers."

:rofl:

Seriously, though. There are black fundies and repukes out there.

[Hello_Kitty]

41. And seriously, I bet Jefferson Davis DID have better numbers!

He couldn't have pissed off as many Black folks as Chimpy McDumbass.

[Awsi Dooger]

44. That's the greatest stat of all time

Biggest laugh I've had in quite a while, after reading the title of a thread.

I work in statistics. Nothing is 2%. If this is true that's phenomenal. More than 2% of Jews would approve of Hitler.

[Porcupine]

47. That's like the Jews for Hitler vote. Order is good for business.....

too bad they mean to take your business, kill you and use your skin for a lamp shade.

[DarkTirade]

49. Now we just need to make sure

their votes get counted.

[roguevalley]

50. whatever 'gains' they hoped to make actually appear to be not

only untenable but eclipsed. I am surprised there is 2 percent after NO.

[Swamp Rat]

52. HAHAHAHA!!! Even Jim Crow had better numbers!!!

:rofl:

Fuck you Bushler!!! :D

[Skidmore]

53. Tell that to Jesse Lee Peterson....

[demnan]

61. Just goes to show

that the people who think white people are smarter than blacks are wrong!

[triguy46]

62. "Doin the limbo rock!"

"How looooowwwww can you goooooo?"

So 2%. lets see there's JC Watts and his kids from his marriage and other liaisons, and Clarence Thomas, and Condi....OJ?

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

63. I'm pleasantly surprised!

Mehlman was here in CT this week appealing to the local NAACP chapter. Apparently some of the 2% reside in CT.

Also interesting - I, a white woman, rec'd a letter yesterday from Julian Bond (NAACP pres.) and a survey to complete. Questions regarding threats to civil rights and voting rights for all citizens in addition to questions on diversity issues, equal pay for women. They are soliciting contributions and members. Come payday, I will be returning my completed survey along with a check.

[Stephanie]

64. I miss being able to recommend for the HOME PAGE

This stat is hysterical!

[spanone]

65. That's inflated! Way too high.

[Brewman_Jax]

66. Really?

didn't think it would be that many. Some people I know actually have the nerve to ask me why I don't vote republican. The answer could be its own thread.

[tgnyc]

67. Bill Bennett says if you abort every black baby, Bush rating would improve

[AspenRose]

87. *snark*

Oh, that's RICH!!! :D

[TNOE]

69. HA HA HA HA HA HA

I will NEVER understand black Republicans. EVER. Whey they spew the party line - all I see is PATHETIC and SELL OUT.

[LibDemAlways]

70. In 08 the repukes won't even pretend

to be cozy with blacks. I think the message is going to become increasingly overtly racist to appeal to white bigots who stayed away from the polls because they saw chimp with Powell and Rice. They will desperately need those idiots after losing the little black support they had.

[VaYallaDawg]

72. You may be hitting the nail on the head.

It's the same strategy they've deployed vis-a-vis gay people - use them to ramp up the negative vote among their base.

[Dangerman]

71. I'll bet that Martin Luther King is part of the 98%

He's spinning in his grave at the face of Mr. B*sh!

[Dawgs]

76. Now, if we could just get them out to vote against these bastards...

we might just have something.

[tgnyc]

77. I just wonder what it is that 2% sees that they approve of

[Zynx]

78. That's pathetically low. That means even the 10% that votes Republican

usually is 80% opposed to him.

[Field Of Dreams]

82. LOL What's the margin of error on this poll?

If it's plus or minus 3%, Bush ratings could be -1 amongst African Americans.

[RSchewe]

83. ROFL... great point! Never even occurred to me. n/t

[MalibuChloe]

88. Is there a link to a REPUTABLE source?

This is from a blog and it doesn't make any sense. First of all, if it were true, it would make headlines all over the place. And I doubt black Americans are that single-minded. Like another poster said, maybe 10% (even THAT would be strange), but 2% is just far-fetched.

[tgnyc]

91. link

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/13/two-percent/

[MalibuChloe]

92. thanks, here's an nbc link also...

I can't believe it. TWO PERCENT??????????? TWOOOO???

Has there ever been an approval rating that low? Maybe the Jews' approval rating for Hitler???

OMG!

http://www.nbc11.com/news/4954685/detail.html

[AspenRose]

93. Washington Post mentions it

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html

[Literate Tar Heel]

89. 2%?

that's a milk, not an approval rating

[AspenRose]

94. LOL

Very good :D

[helderheid]

95. WOW!

[Disturbed]

97. Jesse Lee Peterson is a "Christian"preacher who said..

"Godless Democrats". I heard him say this on C-Span where the Heritage Foundation had a meeting of Black Conservatives. I watched the entire program. It was quite interesting. Sure, I can understand that owning one's own business is a positive thing but does one need to be a RWinger to espouse this concept?

[Hidden Stillness]

96. An Unfailing, True Voice of the Party

Thank God for the unwavering truth of the black base of the Democratic Party--from the Congressional Black Caucus and its many, many investigations and hearings, to the fact that black people as a whole still vote over 90% for Democrats, whether they actually deserve it or not. The Democratic Party would do well to get itself back to the urgent concerns of the poor and middle class black population as revealed by polls--poverty, jobs, minimum wage, crime, health care and its price-gouging, the infrastructure of the Nation--because they are all the concerns of the poor and middle class everywhere else, and they are the original Democratic Party meaning.

[classics]

98. Doesnt matter at all.

We know 'those votes' dont get counted anyway, at least in Ohio.

[tuvor]

99. It's actually much, MUCH higher than 2%.

But so many were deleted from the pollsters' call lists for having names similar to those of convicted felons.

[IronLionZion]

100. I bet Muslims and brown people have similarly low poll numbers

one race at a time.

Once we get the Hispanics, game over. The Republicans will never win Florida or the Southwest ever again.