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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:14 AM
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The National Doom Inevitability Scale
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 11:31 AM by ck4829
I've looked at other countries that have collapsed and come up with this list. You can do it yourself, but be honest with the answers, what do you think our NDI is?

1. On a scale of 1-10, how bad is your nation's economy?

2. On a scale of 1-10, how many Extremists (Fascists, Far Right, Ideologues, etc.) are in government positions?

3. On a scale of 1-10, how much influence do Extremist Religious Figures or Corporations have over the your nation's government?

4. Count up these first three to get your National Insecurity Rating. (0 - Your nation is secure, 30 - your nation is insecure)

5. Add 5 points if your nation is at war and add 10 points if your country is in a multi-national war (war against multiple enemies)

6. On a scale of 1-10, how much influence has your government gained over the Media in a fairly recent window of time?

NDI Scale Totals

0 - Nation won't be collapsing anytime soon

10 - Reversible - Tell Congressmen to find ways to reduce the NDI

20 - Moderate danger - Strongly urge Congressmen to reduce the NDI and find other ways to reduce it too

30 - Dangerous - Develop a plan. Be prepared for calamities

40 - Extremely Dangerous - Better head for the border

50 - Doom is inevitable - No time to head straight for the border. Civil War is usually linked with this high of an NDI.

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:15 AM
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1. I Give Us A 39. Not Good!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:22 AM
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6. I came up with 38 n/t
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:17 AM
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2. You are really
harshing my mellow, you know?

geez... too early for a beer, too.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:29 AM
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13. Beer
did someone say beer

Beer can't tell time!!!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:18 AM
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3. A bit on the nose isn't it?
hard not to end up Dangerous or Extremely Dangerous with this set up.

Don't all nations have a thing for scapegoats if you look hard enough? I mean isn't that the basic human condition?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:19 AM
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4. I should have specified
I mean like Ancient Rome going after Christians or Nazi Germany going after Jews. That's the kind of scapegoating that I am talking about.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:21 AM
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5. Or France going after the royals?
Or Puritans going after the Witches? That sort of thing?

I don't think you'll find many nations that don't do that to a certain extent.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:23 AM
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9. France going after the royals
Scapegoating is an important part then, IMO.

France's government changed almost a dozen times during the time of the French revolution.

I probably should loosen it up, but I think it is important to add it.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:26 AM
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11. My point is
That if everybody has a tendancy to scapegoat than it's not meaningful. Or rather it's like saying "Add 10 points if the citizens of that country walk on two legs."

I mean if you can point out some nations (or peoples) that don't at any point have some tendancy towards scapegoating, that would make it more meaningful.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:27 AM
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12. France going after the royals was like our going after Bush.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:23 AM
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7. Or like the US going after Muslims? n/t
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:23 AM
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8. how about blaming everything on Clinton and liberals?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:25 AM
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10. And look at America now...
Our nation is sinking further and further, quite possible because of the scapegoating of Clinton and the Liberals.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:41 AM
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16. They haven't gone after the liberals yet
but they are working on it.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:08 PM
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17. then i got a 41
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atfqn Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:31 AM
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14. Not good.
I just finished reading another DU post on the Harper's "We Now Live in a Fascist State" article. This promptly forced me to find my tin foil hat add several new layers, shut my shades and run back to the computer only to find this gem. My score - 44 - not good...
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:01 PM
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18. Hi atfqn!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:35 AM
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15. I'll give it a 46 on the Hippiescale.
Yikes. :scared:
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