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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:12 PM
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What's THIS? New "National Clandestine Service" >>>
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 12:13 PM by Stephanie

What does this mean?


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051013/pl_afp/usintelligence_051013162323



Bush gives CIA oversight of all US espionage operations
38 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) -President George W. Bush has approved the creation of a National Clandestine Service within the Central Intelligence Agency to oversee all US espionage operations, the government said.

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The creation of the National Clandestine Service was announced jointly by the CIA and the Director of National Intelligence, John Negroponte, the new overseer of the US intelligence community under the reforms.

CIA Director Porter Goss, who lost the intelligence oversight role in the shuffle, was designated the manager of national human intelligence. Human intelligence is bureaucratic jargon for espionage and covert operations.

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The statement described the NCS as "the national authority for the integration, coordination, deconfliction, and evaluation of human intelligence operations across the entire Intelligence Community."



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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:15 PM
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1. It's to watch people domestically
Since the CIA isn't allowed to do it.

I'll bet you a Cola that's what it's for.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:17 PM
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2. National CLANDESTINE Service? Huh?
What's next Operation Root-Out Evil Americans? The National Agency of Sneaky Spookiness?

And what is DECONFLICTION. Is that a real word?
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:25 PM
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3. it's a military word, evidently. Looky:
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 12:26 PM by soothsayer
http://www.forscom.army.mil/interop/osb_jndl_pulsedecon.htm

Pulse Deconfliction:
The JNDL is directed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (CJCS) to manage and maintain the JTIDS Pulse Deconfliction Server. CJCSI 6231.01C, “Deconflicting JTIDS/MIDS Operations” is applicable to all US forces operating JTIDS/MIDS within the boundaries of the United States and its Possessions. It also states that ALL JTIDS/MIDS operations must be deconflicted using the Pulse Deconfliction Server.
Frequent Pulse Deconfliction Questions and Answers
Who must Deconflict?


Service-designated Deconfliction Coordinators.



What must you Deconflict?
All JTIDS/MIDS operations must be deconflicted.

Who do you Deconflict with?
All units within the designated radius (currently 200nm) from the unit.

How do you Deconflict?
Use the Deconfliction Server to identify JTIDS/MIDS users to each other.
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:25 PM
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4. Deconfliction is a perfectly cromulent word.
Bureaucratic-speak. I hate it.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:24 PM
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14. Hi ArbustoBuster!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:26 PM
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5. Trouble
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 12:27 PM by acmejack
They can deconflict this!
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true_notes Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:26 PM
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6. It's the English translation of "Gestapo" n/t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:43 PM
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8. Is it? Is this so the CIA can do domestic spying?
I am freaked out by this.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:55 PM
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12. In theory,
it allows the CIA to investigate those who are involved in espionage. This is "in theory." It seems odd, as the DoJ has a counterintelligence unit that investigates suspected espionage, making use of the FBI's talents.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:39 PM
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13. Looks like it hands all the reigns to Negroponte
:scared:
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:36 PM
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7. THIS is serious
If you think Chomsky is a windbag, don't bother with this link. I don't, so here it is:

In Honduras, Negroponte was known as 'the proconsul', a title given to powerful administrators in colonial times." There, he presided over the second largest embassy in Latin America, with the largest CIA station in the world at that time - and not because Honduras was a centrepiece of world power.

Robbins observed that Negroponte has been criticised by human-rights activists for "covering up abuses by the Honduran military" - a euphemism for large-scale state terror - "to ensure the flow of US aid" to this vital country, which was "the base for President Reagan's covert war against Nicaragua's Sandinista government."

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/20040806.htm

This is not a nice man. People have disappeared under his "administration".

Start digging all you journalists of the new free press!
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:51 PM
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9. When can we create the National National Service to oversee....
the entire government, including the president?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:52 PM
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10. Well, since the White House blew the cover on the OLD Clandestine
service...

:evilgrin:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:54 PM
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11. One more crack in the intelligence agencies for vital info to fall through
And beyond that, it's an ill wind that Negroponte blows.
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