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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:03 PM
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Impeaching Bush polls higher than Clinton
The republicans and even most democrats think the American people are pretty damn stupid, and with proper marketing could be sold a hat full of shit.

This is one of those things that prove them wrong.

After all the hounding and media attention given to Bill Clinton's personal failings and the conservative drumbeat to impeach him, only 36% of Americans wanted him to be impeached. People were being herded toward supporting something stupid and petty, and they didn't buy it.

With virtually NO discussion of the issue in mainstream media and very little even from Democrats, 50% think Bush should be impeached if he lied about the causes for war, which the Downing Street Minutes and statements already on the record by former administration officials clearly prove.

The other great thing about this poll is that it was grassroots funded. Despite Bush's low job approval numbers, no mainstream polling organization was asking about impeachment, so Afterdowningstreet.org collected the money and commissioned one.


KEY EXCERPTS:

Clinton, Bush and the Polls

Impeachment, Now and Then

By DAVE LINDORFF

According to a poll by the Zogby organization, just released by the group Afterdowningstreet.org, 50 percent of the American public now would like to see the House impeach Bush if it were found that he had lied about the reasons for going to war in Iraq (if?).

Compare that to December 17, 1998, only days before Clinton's impeachment by the House of Representatives, when an AP poll found that only 36 percent of the American public wanted to see the president impeached.

Clearly Americans view the flawed invasion of Iraq and other actions by the Bush administration, like the placing of business cronies in high places, the bankrupting of the federal government, and the failure to come to the rescue of an American city as far more serious than Clinton's sex romp and the lying about it that followed. And there's plenty more bad news to come for Bush, beginning with likely indictments in the Plame outing affair.

FULL TEXT:

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff10122005.html


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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:06 PM
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1. This is very good!
Now all we have to do is encourage people to get out and vote and vote democratic! I'm very happy to hear these results.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:40 PM
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2. The GOP never caught on that sex wasn't that big of deal
The culture of corruption by W and his administration is that big of deal. Especially if you look at www.icasualties.org for the damage and death W's administration has brought.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:02 AM
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4. can't get mad at something you've done yourself
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:49 PM
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3. I think I remember that figure.
I thought it was high, considering the tacky tactics of Ken Starr & how the media reported every small detail 24/7. Obvious witchhunt.

What a difference between Ken Starr & Patrick Fitzgerald.

I love your opening sentence, yurbud:

The republicans and even most democrats think the American people are pretty damn stupid, and with proper marketing could be sold a hat full of shit.


We've proven to them with Clinton & with his thieving predecessor that we can think for ourselves & make up our own minds. Even when the odds (propaganda) are against us.

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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:05 AM
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5. All we need are 15 or so new House seats.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:38 AM
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6. Kicking this in the hopes a few more freepers will have heart attacks.
MORE AMERICANS WANT BUSH IMPEACHED than the MINORITY (36%) WHO WANTED CLINTON IMPEACHED. SUCK IT UP, MFing rightwingnuts!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:40 AM
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8. What she said you scum
you bottom feeding scum!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:39 AM
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7. and the MSM has not even pushed for it
which tells you were we are.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:42 PM
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11. and tells you what we need to do first when Buzis are gone
break these guys into a million pieces, and forcibly get that tape of Jack Welch on election night 2000 when he threw a tirade and told NBC News to call it for the chimp.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:44 AM
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9. Maybe we can get Congress back so impeachment is possible.
That is, if enough of us vote, and if the votes are actually counted, and if they don't steal the election using the electronic voting machines, and if the corporatist "moderate" wing of our party doesn't buy their republican-lite candidates into the running where they fail yet again to the real thing.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:48 AM
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10. Must be the same 36% that still approve of B*. n/t
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:45 PM
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12. I'll Give Him A Blow Job
Hell I know a number of women and men who would blow him, since that what it takes to get impeached in this country.
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