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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 04:59 AM
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Republicans; big flock of CHICKENhawks.
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 05:25 AM by LynnTheDem
The current political CHICKENhawks; gee, lookit all them republicans...

http://www.nhgazette.com/news/chickenhawks/politicans_platoon/

The homepage for CHICKENhawk data base;

http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=list&category=%20NEWS%3B%20Chickenhawks

Who served? Who didn't?
Prominent Democrats

Representative Richard Gephardt, former House Minority Leader - Missouri Air National Guard, 1965-71.
Representative David Bonior - Staff Sgt., United States Air Force 1968-72
Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle - 1st Lt., U.S. Air Force SAC 1969-72
Former Vice President Al Gore - enlisted August 1969; sent to Vietnam January 1971 as an army journalist, assigned to the 20th Engineer Brigade headquartered at Bien Hoa, an airbase twenty miles northeast of Saigon. More facts about Gore's Service
Former Senator Bob Kerrey... Democrat... Lt. j.g., U.S. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam
Senator Daniel Inouye, US Army 1943-'47; Medal of Honor, World War Two
Senator John Kerry, Lt., U.S. Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat
Representative Charles Rangel, Staff Sgt., U.S. Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea
Former Senator Max Cleland, Captain, U.S. Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam
Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) - U.S. Army, 1951-1953.
Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) - Lt., U.S. Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) - U.S. Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91
Senator Fritz Hollings (D-SC) - served as a U.S. Army officer in World War II, receiving the Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
Gray Davis, former California Governor, Army Captain in Vietnam; received Bronze Star.
Chuck Robb, US Senator from Virginia, served in Vietnam
Howell Heflin... Democrat... Silver Star
George McGovern, famous liberal, awarded Silver Star & DFC, dozens of missions during WWII.
Pete Stark, D-CA, served in the Air Force
Former President Bill Clinton - avoided the draft through student deferments; in the autumn of 1969, Clinton entered the draft but received a high number (311) and was never called to serve.
Former President Jimmy Carter, most recent recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize, seven years in the Navy. "Except for his fellow service-academy graduate Dwight Eisenhower, no President of the twentieth century spent more years in uniform than Carter." (New Yorker Magazine)
Former Vice President Walter Mondale, U.S. Army 1951-1953
Former Senator John Glenn, D-OH (1974-1999) - Served in WWII and Korea; extensive military commendations include the Distinguished Flying Cross on six occasions, and the Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
Congressman Tom Lantos, D-CA - Did not serve in the US military; did serve in the Hungarian anti-Nazi underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg, is the only Holocaust survivor to serve in Congress.
Representative Leonard Boswell (D-IA) - Lt. Col., U.S. Army 1956-76; two tours in Vietnam, two Distinguished Flying Crosses as a helicopter pilot, two Bronze Stars, and the Soldier's Medal.
Former Representative "Pete" Peterson, Air Force Captain, POW, Ambassador to Viet Nam, and recipient of the Purple Heart, the Silver Star and the Legion of Merit.
Rep. Mike Thompson, D-CA: Staff sergeant/platoon leader with the 173rd Airborne Brigade, U.S. Army; was wounded and received a Purple Heart.
Bill McBride, Democratic Candidate for Florida Governor - volunteered and served as a U.S. Marine in Vietnam; awarded Bronze Star with a combat "V."
Gray Davis, former California Governor, Army Captain in Vietnam; received Bronze Star.
Pete Stark, D-CA, served in the Air Force 1955-57
Wesley Clark, Democratic Presidential Candidate - lengthy military career.

Prominent Republicans

Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert - avoided the draft, did not serve.
Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey - avoided the draft, did not serve.
House Majority Leader Tom Delay - avoided the draft, did not serve. "So many minority youths had volunteered ... that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself."
House Majority Whip Roy Blunt - did not serve
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist - did not serve. (An impressive medical resume, but not such a friend to cats in Boston.)
Majority Whip Mitch McConnell, R-KY - did not serve
Rick Santorum, R-PA, third ranking Republican in the Senate - did not serve.
Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott - avoided the draft, did not serve.
Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld - served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor. Served as President Reagan's Special Envoy to the Middle East and met with Saddam Hussein twice in 1983 and 1984.
GW Bush - decided that a six-year Nat'l Guard commitment really means four years. Still says that he's "been to war." Huh?
VP Cheney - several deferments, did not serve, the last by marriage (in his own words, "had other priorities than military service")
Att'y Gen. John Ashcroft - did not serve; received seven deferments to teach business ed at SW Missouri State
Jeb Bush, Florida Governor - did not serve.
Karl Rove - avoided the draft, did not serve, too busy being a Republican.
Former Speaker Newt Gingrich - avoided the draft, did not serve
Former President Ronald Reagan - due to poor eyesight, served in a noncombat role making movies for the Army in southern California during WWII. He later seems to have confused his role as an actor playing a tail gunner with the real thing.
"B-1" Bob Dornan - avoided Korean War combat duty by enrolling in college acting classes (Orange County Weekly article). Enlisted only after the fighting was over in Korea.
Phil Gramm - avoided the draft, did not serve, four (?) student deferments
Senator John McCain - McCain's naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Why did the Bush campaign smear him so? At least Senators Cleland (D-GA), Kerry (D-MA), Kerrey (D-NE), Robb (D-VA) and Hagel (R-NE) defended him.
Former Senator Bob Dole - served
Chuck Hagel - two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam.
Duke Cunningham - nominated for the Medal of Honor, received the Navy Cross, two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other decorations
Senator Jeff Sessions U.S. Army Reserves, 1973-1986
Colin Powell. Hmmm. Served.
Representative Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD), served in USMC in Vietnam; wounded in action.
Senator Richard Shelby, did not serve
Senator Jon Kyl, R-AZ - did not serve
Senator Tim Hutchison, R-AR - did not serve
Rep. Christopher Cox, R-CA, fifth-ranking Republican in Congress - did not serve.
Representative Saxby Chambliss, Georgia - did not serve, had a "bad knee"
Former Representative JC Watts - did not serve
Jack Kemp, did not serve (was unfit because of a knee injury, though he heroically continued as a National Football League quarterback for another eight years)
Former Vice President Dan Quayle, avoided Vietnam service, got a slot in the journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard when the unit was at 150% capacity
Eliot Abrams, did not serve (however, played a key role in subverting democracy in South America)
Paul Wolfowitz, did not serve
Former Representative Vin Weber, did not serve
Richard Perle, did not serve
Douglas Feith, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy - did not serve.
Rudy Giuliani, did not serve
Michael Bloomberg, did not serve
George Pataki, did not serve
Spencer Abraham, did not serve
John Engler, did not serve
Lindsey Graham (R-SC) - website used to claim service as a "Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm veteran." A current biographical website makes no such claim. In reality, was a National Guard lawyer who never left South Carolina during the Gulf War.
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-CA, did not serve
Rep. Darrell Issa, R-CA/49th, there were some problems with his service.
Rep. John M. McHugh, R-NY - avoided the draft, did not serve
Arnold Schwarzenegger, CA Republican Governor - went AWOL from his Austrian army base to enter a bodybuilding competition
George Herbert Walker Bush, pilot in WWII. Shot down by the Japanese; was lone survivor out of airplane
Tom Ridge, Bronze Star for Valor in Vietnam
Representative Sam R. Johnson, combat missions in both Korea and Vietnam, POW in Hanoi from April 1966 to February 1973
Senator Ted Stevens, R-AK, WW II pilot, two Distinguished Flying Crosses, two Air Medals, and the Yuan Hai medal awarded by the Republic of China.
Sen. John Warner, R-VA - Served in the Navy during WWII as a RM3
Congresswoman Heather Wilson, R-NM, served in the Air Force 1978-1989
Former President Gerald Ford, served in the Navy, WWII
Former Senator Strom Thurmond - apparently believes, along with Trent Lott,served.

The Shrills:

George Will, did not serve
Chris Matthews, Mediawhore, did not serve.
Bill O'Reilly, did not serve
Paul Gigot, did not serve.
Bill Bennett, Did not serve
Pat Buchanan, did not serv
Rush Limbaugh, did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst'
Michael Savage (aka Michael Alan Weiner) - did not serve,
John Wayne, did not serve
Pat Robertson - claimed during 1986 campaign to be a "combat veteran." In reality, was a "Liquor Officer."
Bill Kristol, did not serve
Sean Hannity, did not serve.
Kenneth Starr, did not serve
Antonin Scalia, did not serve
Clarence Thomas, did not serve
Ralph Reed, did not serve
Michael Medved, did not serve
Charlie Daniels, did not serve
Ted Nugent, did not serve
Radio Host Phil Hendrie, did not serve.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:05 AM
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1. Kick
What more can I say ?
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:06 AM
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2. Wow. Great Compilation you have of Chickenhawks. n.t
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:07 AM
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3. another kick...
:dem:
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:11 AM
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4. Russert? Blitzer? nt
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:31 AM
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7. Wolf Blitzer...did not serve. Tim Russert...did not serve...
David Brooks...did not serve.
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:11 AM
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5. Wow. This is impressive when you look at the facts in...
a list like this. I have to pass this along to my email list. I hope you don't mind?
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:13 AM
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6. I'm tempted to post that on a site
that I normally avoid like the plague.

This is exactly the sort of factual information that would send the bloody hippocrates Wingnuts into mass denial. Bet it wouldn't last a nanosecond anyway. Truth is something these gits are not into.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:36 AM
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8. And a Current Crop:
The Young Chickenhawks

by CLARISSE PROFILET

posted online on October 12, 2005|The Nation

The cheeky website buzzflash.com recently posted a petition calling for Jenna and Barbara Bush to serve in Iraq. But the famously private Bush twins have never disclosed their views on the war; they may even be opposed. So calling for them to serve might not be fair. But there are young and prominent Bush-backers who deserve to be targets of such a petition: The assorted leaders of the College Republicans and Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) are cheerleaders for a war they are unwilling to fight.

Both YAF and College Republicans have staged prowar demonstrations on college campuses across the country. Prior to the invasion of Iraq, the College Republican National Committee released a statement proclaiming, "As our troops prepare for battle, the College Republican National Committee and its 100,000 members are prepared to show the world that the majority of students support the efforts of the president and our troops to liberate the people of Iraq and to rid the world of this murderous dictator and his weapons of mass destruction." The CRNC's website praises George W. Bush for "defending the peace by taking the fight to the terrorists."

The even more zealous YAFers have made it clear that they not only support the war but are openly hostile to those who oppose it. Their rowdy prowar rallies have attracted plenty of press. In March 2003, CBS news reported on a YAF event held in Minnesota at which the chapter's executive director Chris Hill had strong words for antiwar activists: "The top of the antiwar movement is led by communists, and I will call them that," he said. "Unlike these communists, we have truth on our side.... We say to those who oppose this war, Go to France." Hill's YAF chapter has also publicly denigrated antiwar demonstrators as "cowards." All of this raises the question: If opponents of the war should go to France, shouldn't Hill--and other members of YAF and College Republicans--go to Iraq? In response to a query by The Nation about whether any leaders have volunteered to fight the war in Iraq, Shauna Moser, the chairman of Penn State YAF, said only that information on YAF officials could be found with a simple "search in a search engine."

Indeed, YAF chairman Erik Johnson, vice chairman Darren Marks and fourteen other national officials have posted brief autobiographies on YAF's website. According to these bios, not one of them has served in the military or has any intention to do so in the future. YAF official Chris Hill told The Nation that he had been a member of his university's Navy ROTC program and the moderator of a blog where he offered advice to aspiring soldiers on how to obtain a military commission. But he chose to seek a master's degree rather than join the armed forces. Asked about this decision, he said, "But I know people over there, and that's a fact." Does it undermine his group's prowar position if all the YAF higher-ups are unwilling to participate directly in the war? "I don't think so," Hill replied. "You don't have to be involved in something to believe in it."

And that appears to be the sentiment of the College Republicans' board members as well. None of them--the controversial chairman Paul Gourley and officers Jess Beeson, Nathaniel Harding, Britton Alexander, Dan Schuberth and Tom Robins--boast any military experience. Their posted bios do not refer to any past, present or future military service, though they do describe in detail the postgraduate work and political aspirations of these young right-wingers.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:42 AM
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9. Freedom *IS* free...for republicans.
They let others do the fighting & dying for them, being too chickenshit and all mouth.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:55 AM
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10. Now, now, let's not be hasty...
have you double-checked to see if Kristol, Feith, and Perle might have served in their home country?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:30 AM
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11. "home country"? Ya mean New York?
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 06:33 AM by LynnTheDem
Perle, American, born NY City

Feith, American, born Philly

Kristol, American born NY City


Ahhnold did...until he went AWOL.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:18 PM
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14. Yeah, but check 'em for dual citizenship...
I don't think persons who hold dual citizenship should hold government jobs in this country. (Or do you want, say, Vicente Fox, to get dual citizenship and run for prez of the U.S.?)

I know Kristol isn't/wasn't technically in a government job, but he might as well be--since his sniveling little presence is frequent on Fox News, the official White House propaganda channel.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:24 PM
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15. Believe it or not being born Jewish does not grant you
automatically israeli citizenship... or pray tell me what did I do wrong here?

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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 12:26 PM
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16. I know...
Perle and Feith have longstanding links to Israel and it is not unreasonable to suggest that they give at least as much allegiance to Israel as to the U.S.

Kristol? Just a garden-variety Straussian. Do I despise Kristol? Yes.

I've said repeatedly that I don't tar American Jews who are citizens on my level, with the same brush. Israel-as-a-nation is not the equivalent of the Jewish people.

I've got links to indymedia regarding Perle and Feith. I got one off yahoo but it wouldn't link correctly. Will try to link it if anyone thinks I am criticizing average American Jews when I criticize deceptive, Bush-it, warmongers like Perle, Feith, and Kristol. There's a difference.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:43 AM
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12. So Why Doesn't THE NHGazette Add Names?
I remember sending two e-mails to the NHGazette trying to add the names of Texas and Colorado congressional representatives who also didn't serve in the US military--like Tom Tancredo. I never got a response, and Tom Tancredo was never inducted into the rolls of the chicken hawks.

BTW, did Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham ever put in time with the US military?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:46 AM
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13. Coulter...did not serve. Ingraham...did not serve.
Not sure why the NHG didn't reply to you. :(
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 12:30 PM
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17. In the last issue...
they said they would be adding to it.
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