The collapse of a marriage of convenience??

[triguy46]

The repugs have become two parties in one, the fundie Jihadist zealots focused on their view of heaven on earth, i.e. no Roe, mandatory prayer, elimination of homosexuals. The other side is the traditional CEO big business tax break for the wealthy repugs. These two are not the same groups, and as so clearly examined in "Whats the matter with Kansas?" the jihadists are beginning to feel used in that they support the repugs, in fact delivered the presidency to the repugs, but the only successes have come for the CEOs/wealthy. Roe hasn't been overturned to their anger, but * has cut taxes for the wealthy, not the same in their eyes, "killing babies" versus "returning wealth."

With Meirs and the imploding of the *ista regime, the zealots will attempt to wrest from the CEO/Wealthy side full control and once and for all run and attempt to elect a 'true' believer, who will not mince words on Roe, will incite direct action against gays, mandatory prayer etc. Only then will they be satisfied. *, with his recently acquired texan drawl, and use of certain fundie key words, fooled them that he was a believer. But the leopard can't change his spots, he is the spawn of east coast old money, episcopalian, not evangelical, true to money only, not to 'god.' They will not be fooled again.

Look for the ascendency of the fundies as the CEO/Wealthy watch in horror as they have to march to the church organ and be fire baptized in the new Dobson/falwell/buchanen gop.

[MadHound]

1. And then we will see the collapse of the Republican party

If the fundie wing of the Republican party pulls out in disgust, then there will not be enough votes to elect a 'Pug as dogcatcher much less president. Likewise with if the CEO wing pulls out. Sadly these two wings need each other to win, but more and more it is looking like they can't stand each other.

Either we're going to a major break in the 'Pugs within ten years, or worse, we're going to start seeing the CEO wing start tossing the fundies a bunch of bones to keep this marriage together. Let us hope it is the former, rather than the latter.

[Cactus44]

2. I don't think so.

What the Fundies want is alot more than a bone. a LOT more.

[triguy46]

3. I don't think they will as much 'pull out'

or just frickin take it over, making the non-fundies have to repent, die, or leave. I think the fundies are the weird relatives who you let stay the weekend only to find out they've moved in.

[MadHound]

4. The trouble is that they don't have the numbers, nor the money

To do so. The monetary power of the Republicans comes from the old line CEO branch. The manpower comes from the fundie wing. Each wing makes up only half a party, and without each other, the party will fall apart. If the fundies get pissed, they're going to leave. Many of them will go back to the old ways, when it was considered almost sinful to participate in government(for after all, that is dealing with the kingdom of man, and every good fundy ideally deals only with the kingdom of God.

But even in the worst case scenario, and the fundies take over the Republican party, they won't have the money, nor the manpower. The neo-cons, libertarian party animals that they are, will find the fundy 'Pugs abhorent, as will the CEOs. That will leave the fundies pulling down at best 25% of the vote. You can't do much without big bucks and a definitive minority of votes.

If the 'Pugs break down along these lines, it will be a great day. The only real drawback is that the CEO wing of the 'Pugs could simply move into their other home, the DLC, and thus co-op the Democratic party.

[triguy46]

5. Good point, delivered votes vs. delivered money. n/t