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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:36 AM
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World's Smallest Political Quiz...
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:38 AM
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1. I'm a Centrist. There's a shocker.
Still on the left side of centrist.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:39 AM
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2. Damn, it labelled me a liberal!!!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:41 AM
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5. I Took The Tests A Couple Of Times
I usually bounce back between moderate and liberal....


I'll bet if you say maybe to ever question it will say you are a centrist...


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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:43 AM
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11. Yep
and if you agree to every question you are a liberterian and if you disagree with every question you are a statist and so forth...
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:42 AM
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8. me2
PERSONAL issues Score is 80%
ECONOMIC issues Score is 30%
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:25 PM
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59. Me, too and
I always considered myself a moderate.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:40 AM
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3. Whoa! I thought I was a moderate...
You fall exactly on the border
of two political philosophies...

LIBERAL

LIBERTARIAN


LIBERALS usually embrace freedom of choice in personal
matters, but tend to support significant government control of the
economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net"
to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation
of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations,
defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action
to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.

LIBERTARIANS support maximum liberty in both personal
and economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government;
one that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion
and violence. Libertarians tend to embrace individual
responsibility, oppose government bureaucracy and taxes,
promote private charity, tolerate diverse lifestyles, support the
free market, and defend civil liberties.

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:40 AM
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4. It turns out I am a...
Liberal!! :woohoo:

Who would have guessed?!

:shrug:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:52 PM
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61. You, too? Oh, no. Me, too.
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:41 AM
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6. "The political description that fits you best is...
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 09:42 AM by jim3775
LIBERAL

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 90%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 20%.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:43 AM
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12. you're left of me
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 09:47 AM by tk2kewl
PERSONAL issues Score is 80%.
ECONOMIC issues Score is 30%.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:47 AM
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17. 80/40
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:41 AM
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7. meh
it put me on the border between liberal and libertarian. i hate libertarians. i said maybe to cut taxes and government spending. but i just want to cut defense spending. because i think that money is mostly being just plain stolen.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:29 AM
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44. You've just pointed out
quite nicely why quizzes like this can be anywhere from a little to a lot off. There was no place for you to say why you wanted to cut taxes and spending -- because of the military. I immediately thought of such things as public health, social security, and other programs which help people, so I answered that question that I would not cut taxes or spending. Although, now that you've brought it up, I do remember that I'd cut back mightily on military spending if I could.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:42 AM
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9. I won, I'm a Liberal! (EOM)
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:43 AM
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10. Insipid. Push poll to make you a Libertarian
...which is their goal for everybody. For gay marriage? Then your a Libertarian, so support our privatization of the commons!

Against drug legislation? Boing! You're a Libertarian, so support us in our destroying Social Security!

Think To Government has no business controlling women's reproductivity? Suprise! You're a Libertarian! Now, let's get rid of the FDA, USDA, EPA, zoning laws, and lift all regulating constraints from corporations so they can be free to enslave you, poison you, and worship ownership of you.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:45 AM
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15. they definitely push polled the SS question
"Let people control their own retirement; privatize Social Security"

Letting "people control their own retirement" and "privatizing Social Security" are not one in the same thing
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:05 PM
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50. Yeah, good point. They are trying to steer left on social, right on econ
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:17 PM
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51. Neo-Libertarian, not really 'Libertarian'
There is absolutely nothing in Hayek's perspectives that accommodate the personhood of corporations and their license-to-kill. A true 'libertarian' would abolish corporations as we know them - completely. A true 'libertarian' would cringe at the idea that torts would be outlawed or restricted. Torts are an essential element of equity and justice.

Today's Neo-Libertarians are virtually silent about the privileges and entitlements enjoyed by corporatists, all under the coercive force of government. Today's Neo-Libertarians are Fascist apologists.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:50 PM
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55. So this is a Hayek approved poll?
Funny, I can't tell the difference between the "true ones" and the stealth hijackers anymore.:shrug:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:07 PM
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58. No. The poll is neo-libertarian - non-Hayek.
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 03:08 PM by TahitiNut
The question on 'privatization' of Social Security is a dead giveaway. The absence of any questions on abolition of corporate privilege seals it.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:44 AM
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13. From the World's Smallest Political Minds
But wait, I'm being too harsh. Too much coffee equals too much sarcasm. Mea culpa.

This is the World's Oldest Internet Hook for the Libertarian Party. It's a minor variation on the Nolan Chart, named for David Nolan, who decided he didn't like the GOP, and formed the Libertarian Party back in the late 1960s.

The underlying premise to The World's Smallest Political Quiz is that there are two types of freedom: Social and Economic. You can guess what "Economic Freedom" is -- it's the freedom to crush Social Freedom into the mud.

Most Libertarians are pretty much "on our side", except when it comes to curbing the power of corporations and financial institutions. Then, they're the ones who want to "drown the government in a bathtub".

This is the main Progressive argument against the Libertarians -- they do not fully understand the nature of power, and how "free enterprise" isn't quite so free, and how "freedom of choice" is an illusion. The "dynamic tension" between us and them is fundamentally healthy and necessary -- they are not, as a rule, plutocrats and puppeteers like standard-issue neo-Conservatives.

The test is kinda fun, like most tests. Also, it's not very accurate -- like most tests.

--p!
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:51 AM
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19. its accurate if you know the motivation of the ones asking the questions
but if you are a joe six-pack and take it like a rawshack, then i agree it is dishonest.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:51 AM
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20. Some Of The Terminology Is Loaded
but it goes back to the old axiom that the Democrats want to take the government out of your bedroom and put it in your wallet and the Republicans want to take government out of your wallet and put it in your bedroom...


I agree pure liberterianism is unworkable as a system of government but the survey does capture the distinction between liberals, centrists, and conservatives or at least as good as any survey in defining folks ideologies...
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:44 AM
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14. Good Lord! I'm a liberal!
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 09:46 AM by SteppingRazor
Who would have thought? ;)


On edit: Personal -- 100%
Economic -- 20%
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:45 AM
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16. I'm a liberal
Fancy that
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:50 AM
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18. Proud LIBERAL here
:woohoo:
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sdfernando Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:51 AM
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21. I'm a Liberal
I'm a liberal, but I already knew that. Seems that the older I get the more to the left I lean.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:53 AM
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22. I know it will disappoint many, but....
I'm a LIBERAL! :)
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:55 AM
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23. Centrist but left liberterian
big surprise
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:57 AM
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24. Liberal
Why, yes, yes I am.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:02 AM
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25. ". . .but tend to support significant government control. . ."
". . .of the economy. . ." No we don't. We support significant governmental control of the people who run the companies within the economy. If people are forced, by law, to do the right things, they are more prone to follow the rules. If they are no rules, they will serve ONLY their self-interest.

I don't want the gov't controlling the economy. Just the people who would screw it up for everyone else need to be controlled.
The Professor
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:15 AM
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31. LOL
I'm not defending the poll other than to say it was fun and painless to take....


For all its flaws it done a decent job of confirming the ideology of folks who have taken it here...
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:19 AM
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34. Yeah, But That Description Of Liberal Honked Me Off
I'm a liberal and i don't want the gov't controlling the economy. We try to control too much now, and almost always do more harm than good. (Alan Greenspan, anyone?)

But, if we control the behavior of people who won't do the right thing without the sword of Damacles hanging over their head, then the gov't should hang the sword.
The Professor
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:25 AM
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39. I See Your Point...
I have to back and read their definitions


Yeah.... their definition of liberal is loaded..I'll edit and it and see if you agree






LIBERALS usually embrace freedom of choice in personal

matters, but tend to support some governmenal intervention in the

economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net"
to help the disadvantaged, and advocate necessary regulation

of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations,

defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action

to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:26 AM
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40. Better
Yeah, the intervention is better than control. I don't want any of the maroons in gov't controlling the economy. They don't know anywhere near enough to do a good job. That includes the idiots in Treasury that are paid to be economists. That seems to be where the dregs of the economics community ends up. (Either there or at Commerce, or the Wall Street Journal editorial page.)
The Professor
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:58 AM
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67. It's neolibertarian hogwash, of course. Creeping fascism.
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 10:59 AM by TahitiNut
First and foremost we must recognize that a corporation is a creature of government entitlement - wholly and completely artificial and existing solely due to legal fiat enforced by the coercive power of government. It's one thing for government to defend human rights and personal property rights against predations. It's entirely another thing to create (meta-)property itself in the form of a system of vast entitlements - establishing a kind of virtual reality of options, futures, and equities. This kind of 'property' is privileged, exempted from sales taxes and "more equal that others" under income tax laws. These entitlements are not the product of human labor - they're wholly created as legal fictions.

The insane notion that entities (corporations) whose very existence is the result of legal ficitons "should not" have their very behavior regulated by the government that creates them is a psychosis of greed and power. "Stockholder" is a title in the same sense that "Baron" was a title, but the pernicious corruption of such entitlements poses a far greater threat to human liberties.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:08 AM
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26. Try this one instead. Longer but much better
http://www.politicalcompass.org/

My scores:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.28

(I'm scary :)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:11 AM
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27. I Took It... I Ain't Taking It Again.. It Was Long...
I had minus threes or so on both...


I think I got placed with Mandella and Gandhi......


I was surprised that I was placed to the left of "nominal" socialists like Schroeder and Blair...
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:14 AM
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29. I love pointing my wingnut friends at it.
They are always surprised by just how conservative they aren't.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:41 PM
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46. That site says Benedict XVI is closer to a Communist than most other...
things. I wouldn't have expected that.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:43 AM
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62. Looks like that one puts me in the same ballpark as you, Caution...
I'm -7.25 economic
-6.77 social
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:13 AM
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28. Left Liberal
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 30%.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:14 AM
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30. It told me I was Liberal, but

I could have told 'em that in advance.

:shrug:

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:17 AM
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32. It's Official!! I'm a Liberal
AND PROUD OF IT!!!

LIBERALS usually embrace freedom of choice in personal
matters, but tend to support significant government control of the
economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net"
to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation
of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations,
defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action
to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 10%.

:patriot:
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:18 AM
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33. I was exactly between Liberal Libertarian!
Personal 100%
Economic 50%

I always knew I was a swing voter at heart lol.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:22 AM
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35. what the hell is a Liberal Libretarian???
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:30 AM
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42. no clue--I'm calling it "blonde with brains!" n/t
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:23 AM
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36. It said "liberal"...
in great big letters!

I'm so proud of myself!


B-) O8) :bounce: :toast: :party: :thumbsup: :dem: :headbang: :woohoo: :patriot:
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:23 AM
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37. DING!DING!DING! We have a winner!!!!
I'm a liberal!!!! What do I win?????
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:24 AM
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38. Centrist leaning liberal and libertarian.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:28 AM
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41. wow, I've moved further left over the last 5 years
last time I took a quiz like this, I was just slightly left of center. Thanks DU, I think?
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:38 AM
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43. I'm a Liberal
80-40
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lcordero2 Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:31 AM
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45. 100/30
I found this question interesting:

Cut taxes and government spending by 50% or more <----I put maybe

All of the places to cut from is public official salaries, DoD contractors, corporate welfare, fake drug war...
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:50 PM
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47. They seem to consider liberals to be anti-Draft by default.
I'd support the reinstitution of the Draft once this criminal oil war is over. If we'd had a Draft back in 2002, the public wouldn't have cheered for invasion like it was the fucking Super Bowl.

A Draft right now would only enable them, so I'm not for it at this point- but I'm not "anti-Draft" and I consider myself pretty thoroughly left wing.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:55 PM
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48. 100/20 No surprise there.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:04 PM
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49. The economic issues section really wants to steer people right, doesn't it
And this is how conservatives sell their bullshit. By dressing up their beliefs in these simplistic, rhetorical statements:

"End government barriers to free trade"
By that, people might assume, "Yeah, the government shouldn't interfere with free trade".
But what they are really saying is more along the lines of" I want to have to compete for my job with someone who makes 3 cents an hour"

"Let people control their own retirement"
Is that not the exact GOP talking point?
"Let the GOP Wall Street donors pilfer your retirement savings"

"Replace Government welfare with private charity"
aka, "The Government should fund churches to convert people to Christianity"

"Cut taxes and government spending by 50% or more"
Yeah, great, what are you going to cut? Spending on pork and pointless wars based on lies? Cut taxes for the middle class so they can actually pay their bills? Not likely.
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LatinoSocialist Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:18 PM
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52. Liberal
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 02:19 PM by LatinoSocialist
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 100%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 20%.

Frankly...I'm disgusted. I'm no liberal...I'm a socialist.:P
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:21 PM
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53. I'm a centrist.
Some of the questions were not worded that well in my opinion. Some of them, I found myself thinking "maybe, but..."
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:24 PM
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54. Personal 100%, Economic 40% - Liberal - n/t
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:50 PM
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56. Pretty cool!
This might be an oversimplification, but I'm happy to be counted as a liberal. There are questions that were not asked that would have drastically changed the results of this quiz (in my case, in either direction).
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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:58 PM
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57. Thought I was a centrist, Guess not. I am a big old bleeding heart Liberal
Thanks for the quiz, here is another one......

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/
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eggman67 Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:41 PM
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60. Not surprised
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 100%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 90%.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:21 AM
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63. Wow...90/10..I'm one badass uber-Lib!!!!
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:37 AM
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64. I'm a liberal
but then I already knew that. Actually I consider myself a social democrat.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:39 AM
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65. Liberal close to libertarian. I pretty much knew that
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:42 AM
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66. I am a Liberal
Shocking bit of self discovery. :sarcasm:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:05 AM
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68. I'm a liberal (nt)
nt
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