Randi Rhodes says we weren't suppose to see the STAGED meeting

[in_cog_ni_to]

REHERSAL with the soldiers yesterday. She's saying they put it up on the satellite when they weren't suppose to and the press "accidentally" on purpose (by someone) had access??? LOL! I thought they gave the press access to that? If what Randi says is true, the WH has-got-to-be-pissed-as-HELL! LOL! I love this!

edited to include that it was the rehersal that wasn't suppose to be seen. :hi:

[LatinoSocialist]

1. where is she getting her proof for that?

I mean, it's funny, but is it true?

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. I don't know. Her show just started. Maybe she will say where

she got her info.

on edit.... except I have to leave to pick my son up. If she does say who told her that, I'll miss it. Will someone please post it if she tells us? :hi:

[robbedvoter]

4. Has to. Only an accident could disclose this. That and the newfound

chutzpa of MSM to cover these things (you can be sure it happened many, many times before)

[FreedomAngel82]

7. For sure

Why would Bush do this to himself? They're getting very sloppy. So someone else had to do this.

[rsmith6621]

15. Because Rove is Under

So much pressure with the GJ thingy the administration is not able to keep track of its ploys......

Frankly I think it was someone in the WH that allowed this to get leaked.......Id say watch fro some resignations soon.

[electropop]

11. It's pretty obvious they didn't intend us to see the rehearsal.

Somebody's going to be in great danger from now on.

[XNASA]

3. I don't believe it.

If the WH didn't want anyone to see it, it would have been encrypted.

I think there must be more to this story.

[LisaM]

5. Oh, I don't know. We buy sports packages for our cable

And we sees stuff like this all the time, when they are setting stuff up.

Once we heard Brent MSU-burger yelling at Cheryl Miller off-air for saying someone had a head injury before they knew for sure.

Later on, we heard him mocking her during another break.

[Wickerman]

18. I loved the old satellite days

pre-packages when you jsut dialed on and got the signal - I used to go to this bar and watch Houston Rocket games. During half-time all they did was train the camera on the floor and you would watch the guys sweep the court and the announcers talk basketball, personalities and about what was going on in their own respective families. They either didn't know they were on the air or simply forgot. Sometimes some funny stuff. Well, its seems that way, I watched at the bar and well, anyway, it was funny at the time. :blush:

[LisaM]

20. We still get that sometimes - the hockey package

and the other day, we saw some Michigan pre-game stuff - the band - while they were setting up.

We see it in hockey in the St. Louis feed!

[Wickerman]

23. I envy you

that is good entertainment. You have to watch hours of it, but there is your reality TV!

/voyeur

:hide:

[LisaM]

24. I know - I call it "found" humor

One of these days I'm going to catch the announcers admitting that they hate Michigan!

[tk2kewl]

6. that was what i assumed from the get go

that they started the feed prematurely

i thought it was reported that way on NBC

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. I thought I heard a WH talking head say

the press was invited to witness the set-up? Who was that? WH CNN lady who's a WH correspondent? I heard that somewhere yesterday.

[geekgrrl]

8. Well she is probably going on the logic that they couldn't have MEANT for

people to see the rehearsal. I can't imagine that it was intentional. Unless they thing we are more stupid and gullable than I thought before. I bet it was "accidently" broadcast out to the media from some within the media who had access to the rehearsal feed- it seems the media is becoming less forgiving of bushco!

[htuttle]

9. We weren't supposed to see the rehersal

I doubt it was accidentally put on the satellite early. The rehersal wasn't intended to be broadcast, though. It's routine for satellite feeds to begin broadcasting quite a while before they go on air, so those using the feed can get their 'dials' adjusted ahead of time.

In fact, there's an excellent documentary out there called 'Spin' from the 1992 campaign showing pre-broadcast satellite captures of various politicians (picking their teeth, chatting with staff, etc...).

What the problem was, was that the white house insisted on stating that it was a spontaneous Q&A. If they hadn't pushed that lie so hard, the press might have given them a walk on it.

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. THAT'S what I mean. The rehersal

I'll edit so it won't be confusing. :)

[Sydnie]

10. Scottie was very determined yesterday to talk about the

challenges of setting up a "live feed" like that at his press conference. I thought it was odd that he was attempting to explain that to news people who could use those feeds all the time.

If they understood the technology of our times, rather than being afraid of it, they wouldn't get themselves into these messes so often.

[MADem]

13. I will take a guess as to what happened

The feed was set up by the PENTAGON. Someone in the ASD's shop, the public affairs arm, flipped the switch a bit earlier than they should have (they would have to do this anyway) so that the networks who were receiving the feed could test the connection before going live, and just left the damn thing on. On purpose? Who knows. Bless the person with their hand on the button!!!!

Those cameras that recorded the images were not run by the networks, they were just receiving the feed. The camera operators were government, not network.

[NYC Liberal]

14. Welcome to the beginning of Bush without Rove!

You can see how much influence and control Rove has had now that he's not there - at least not nearly as much. Did we EVER see something like this happen before? Nope.

Bush is going down and Rove will not be there to save him! He is gonna crash and burn.

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[LisaM]

19. Really? The Air Force is NOT a corporation

it's our tax dollars. People cannot speak their mind without practicing first?

Thanks for letting me know.

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[LisaM]

22. What if he has a complaint?

Does he have to PRACTICE it? I'm sorry, but I think I would prefer a more open environment for our military.

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[LisaM]

36. Oh, you mean like the war we're winning now?

When is the last time our military WON a war? And don't give me the BS about the Gulf War in 1992, because that was barely a skirmish, and if we'd won it, we wouldn't be there now.

[Hubris Heaver]

26. sorry to disagree, but

the airforce is part of the largest corporation in the country-
the military. Thats what DD Eisenhower was warning against.

[LisaM]

27. Well, of course, but it's not SUPPOSED to be

and I am pretty bothered that people who are in it act as if it is.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. BULL CRAP

My husband retired from the USN, he used to BRIEF ADMIRALS, and NEVER PRACTICED or rehearsed an answer...

So take that for what you may want to believe, and I mean three and four star Admirals...

[TimeToGo]

29. Nope, sorry

I was Navy Public afairs, and you practice presentations, but you don't script answers, and then you don't pretend it isn't scripted.

But this is the new military. Or I should say the "'s military wing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. Ok so maybe you will get this

he was a USN Submanrine ANAV, he briefed Admirals, including PAC... he NEVER practiced,

You lived in the public eye, public affairs... HUGE difference

[Hubris Heaver]

35. MAybe the Admirals felt that

they could handle the truth. G Dubious Shrubler can't.
The sad fact is that these soldiers are in a position that if they do something that pisses of the CIC, they might expect extra dangerous duty. Practicing their answers, whether they believe in the mission or not, is wisely self preservative.
It sucks.

[Dhalgren]

30. Bullshit! There is no CEO or Commander worth his salt

who gives his/her subordinates scripts to read from when holding a meeting. If you already have the answers scripted, the meeting is a waste of time. This was a photo-op, nothing more. The soldiers were props, nothing more. That they were glad to be props for this failed president is just sad...

[Stephanie]

32. I'd like to know who wrote the answers & why they have to LIE about it

Hmmm? Why do such a staged, phony photo-OP and then LIE about how staged it was. Explain that.

[Tactical Progressive]

31. The rehearsal probably isn't even the most staged part

I'm guessing that each one of those military people were chosen because they are totally behind George W. Bush to begin with. Think they were randomly selected?

It looks bad to see the rehearsal, so it's good that it leaked for sure, but the worst part is that there was probably nobody in that group that would have a serious question for, let alone a critique of, let alone major issues with Bush or the war, whether or not they were rehearsed or scripted.

Once again it is the same as the game the media plays on America: context. Who they talk to and what they talk about are fully controlled. After that's all in place, everybody is free to give their honest opinion, as Scottie so defensively retorted to his questioners yesterday.

[gratuitous]

33. I agree: It's sloppiness

They've gotten away with so much for so long, and the media have just looked the other way, that there was no reason for them to think that anyone would catch them or if they did that they'd say anything about it.

Randi just called it the best script scandal for the GOP since Rush was caught doctor-shopping to feed his oxycontin habit. Hee, hee.

[Blue Belle]

34. She just said KKKarl!!

"we'll miss you KKKarl!"

I love it! :)

[gratuitous]

37. It's K-K-K-Karl! He's c-c-coming to k-k-kill us!

Heh indeedy.

[Blue Belle]

38. Nice "A Fish Called Wanda" reference!

:)

[Hubris Heaver]

40. "ASSHOOLLES"

( said while crashing large american car into various objects along the street)

Maybe KKKarl can be hung upside down out a window til he apologizes to the American people

[Blue Belle]

41. Maybe we could have Joe Wilson be the one to...

hold him out the window! If only there were a just and fair world... :sigh:

Welcome to the DU! We welcome your movie trivia/political input! :)

[Hubris Heaver]

43. well I gotta be good for

something. :-)
thanks for the welcome.

[gratuitous]

39. Caller recapping some of the by-play

Apparently one of the props was from New York (Lombardo), and thanked Idiot Boy for being in New York on November 11. Randi playing it now.

The funny echo crap makes it impossible for people on either end to carry on a conversation.

Now playing a recording from The Simpsons of the Burns' press availability at suppertime. Hoo hah!