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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:31 PM
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Dobbs on CNN is pulling no punches
for a MSM corporate guy...

Such cynicism! Such sarcasm! Such denigration of the Administration.

Where were these guys in 2004? Nothing's really new here...just keep moving, folks...

They're still to blame for all this as far as I'm concerned.
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:33 PM
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1. Where were these guys in 2004?
Sleeping on a big pile of money with many beautiful women, to quote "The Critic."
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:33 PM
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2. indeed... a bit of skepticism before illegally invading Iraq would have
been a good thing.

I agree with you. The MSM is as guilty as BushCo for the illegal invasion of Iraq.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:37 PM
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5. Media acted like the public relations dept of the BushInc White House for
5 years and NOW some of them are whining about it?

Almost ALL of these facts were known ALL LAST YEAR and most in the media chose to NOT tell their voting audiences.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:44 PM
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12. Ex-friggin-actly
I have little patience for those who only now,feel it's their job to criticize.Where were they when they knew about this stuff-well,when we all did?Casting votes for GWB-that's where.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:42 PM
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9. Later is better than never.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:13 PM
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22. But wars are good for ratings

and there was a lull in viewership. They have to eat too you know.

(sarcasm)
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:34 PM
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3. Now Rollins, Toobin and Schneider...
Even Rollins is piling on...

Dobbs - sarcastically...Rove "Boy genius."

Toobin very sharp as usual.

Wow...
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:35 PM
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4. Judith Miller "deserves all the credit in the world"
he's totally boneheaded on the Plame thing, though.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:38 PM
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6. True...
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 05:39 PM by PCIntern
Schneider" Things can always get worse.

You're right about Plamegate he's deaf dumb and blind. Rollins is totally fed up with *.

I think the Rethugs created a monster with their piousness - it is the snake that swallows itself.

Dobbs: John Fund is 'eminent' - does f*cking his ex's daughter make him eminent?

Rollins going nuts against Bush...
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:45 PM
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15. Fund did his ex's daughter? Link? n/t
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:41 PM
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7. Lou Dobbs' favorite topic: Offshoring of US jobs
The report that was rewritten by the * Admin, so Lou can't be happy about this.
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:43 PM
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10. "The government has in fact lied to us"
- Lou
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:48 PM
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18. "I'm tired of hearing 'It APPEARS that the govt. may have lied, etc.'
"They outright lied. period."

He's basically saying he's tired of reporters, etc. pussy-footing around.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:50 PM
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20. You could just see his anger coming to the surface nt
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:41 PM
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8. I'm hearing more and more of this more critical reporting.
Last night Keith Obermann really blasted the administration over the scripted conversations with the soldiers in Iraq. Could we dare hope that at least some of the media is willing to do what they are supposed to do rather that whore for Bush?
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:44 PM
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11. My sentiments exactly. At least now he appears really pissed
"the goverment lied to us."
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Lucille Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:44 PM
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13. Just heard him say Dems and Reps both attack the middle class
That neither party is addressing policy issues that create the squeeze, and both parties are to blame. This after describing the squeeze--credit card companies encouraged by "the government" to charge more, higher oil & gasoline prices, parents to bear higher tuition increases with out aid, the bankruptcy bill, and the plan to eliminate the mortgage deduction.

Yeah, Dems are holding hands with the Republicans on these issues. Whatever you say Lou.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:49 PM
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19. did you watch the bankruptcy bill pass?
it couldn't have passed with out dem help.

but you know -- whatever...
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:45 PM
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14. It was amazing! he's only a few steps above tweety though...
with his flip-flopping.

He was being good for a while and then he turned back into a whore. Now he's back on the good side. Unlike Tweety though - I think he is more sincere and doesn't do it just for the ratings.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:45 PM
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16. Dobbs is an old style conservative.
I don't like them, but they are a world of difference from the current strain of GOP virulence.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:46 PM
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17. wow. did you hear him on the altered commerce report?
I suspect that he has lost all respect for Mr bush and his cronies.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:52 PM
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21. while i appreciate his stand on outsourcing and the rising costs
for the middle class -- dobbs is a repuke.

and therefore of limited use to middle class and working americans -- now if only said americans would turn on guys like these.

repukes are bad for the country -- period.
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behindthe8ballnchain Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:46 PM
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24. not true
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 06:47 PM by behindthe8ballnchain
we need republicans like Dobbs...like Big Eddie Schultz who came all the way over to the other side...like my dad who found his senses in the 90s (the best thing Clinton ever did for me). We need them to see that the republican party of today is "not your father's" republican party.(In my case, literally) We need them to see that the current course set by the republicans, this administration and their media mouthpieces is indeed counter to the best interest of our country. I see a bit of Dobbs in my pop. These are guys who are business driven. These are guys who are capitalists. But these are guys that don't think it's right to cut off pensions or to re-write the rules to force down the middle class and that making your 51st million need not be at the expense of the little guy. These are guys that believe there should be a safety net in this country and that the government serves a purpose beyond bloating the profits of their corporate cronies. We need guys like this on our side if real change will ever be enacted on anything resembling the grand scale I believe is necessary to right our republic.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:20 PM
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23. What's the deal with the Commerce Dept report?
I only saw part of the show and missed that.
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