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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:00 AM
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Plame grand jury consists of 11 blacks, 4 whites
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As worries spread that the latter had occurred, Fitzgerald's grand jury finally emerged. The men and women who would judge Rove, 11 of them black and four white, were mostly older, and casually dressed in jeans, sneakers or sweaters. They were followed by Fitzgerald and his legal team, lugging huge briefcases.

"I'm leaving and going back to my office -- that's all I can say," disclosed the prosecutor, hesitantly, as if he had already said too much.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/14/AR2005101401855_pf.html

Hopefully they didn't believe Karl's new story. :mad:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:01 AM
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1. hmmmm
interesting
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:05 AM
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2. Let's see, 2% of African-Americans approve of this administration...
and 73% of the jury are African-American. This sounds a little scary for the regime. :evilgrin:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:07 AM
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5. you forgot the margin of error -- 3% - so it could really be -1%
EOM
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:10 AM
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8. my first thought when I saw the subject line...
probably not good for all those pasty white folks in the White House.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:06 AM
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3. Now there's a bit of hopeful news!
:bounce:
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:06 AM
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4. Wonder if they'll spin this as racially motivated.
I can't imagine even this bunch stooping so low, but then its been just one surprise after another from this gang. Should make it even more fun to watch.

:popcorn:
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:08 AM
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6. New Bennett: "Abort All Backs Babies And They Will Stop Investigating Us!
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 09:08 AM by DistressedAmerican
In a generation of two..."

Racist pig. Hope every juror heard those comments.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:09 AM
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7. What's your point in pulling out that detail from way down in the story?
The story of events (or non-events) surrounding Rove's GJ appearance has a lot of tidbits. Please tell us why that one has significance for you.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:20 AM
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11. I agree
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 09:22 AM by fedupinBushcountry
I was wondering the same thing. It makes no difference to me, why OP does it to you ? What are you trying to spin ?
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:45 AM
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13. Before you get your knickers in a twist
Perhaps the fact that this Administration has only a 2% favorable rating with African-Americans might mean that they'll be less likely to let the bunch of criminals walk.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:49 AM
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14. I'd hope that ANY grand jury would put their feelings of 'approval' aside.
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 09:50 AM by TahitiNut
:shrug: I doubt that one's ability to do so isn't dependent on the color of one's skin or one's gender.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:57 AM
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16. I respect your idealism
Unfortunately in the real world, feelings of approval or disapproval do have a way of affecting outcomes - the O.J. trial is just one extreme case.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 10:47 AM
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17. "the O.J. trial is just one extreme case"???
Which trial? The criminal trial or the civil trial?? Which one was most affected by jury bias??
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:31 PM
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19. Perhaps they'll make their judgment based on the evidence
and not based on the color of their skin.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:11 AM
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9. There need to be sixteen for a quorum but there are over twenty jurists
In fact I think the number is 23 but there must be at least sixteen to indict or hand in any judgment.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:16 AM
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10. Ahh! Justice!
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:22 AM
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12. When you are prosecuting racists,
race really DOES matter.

Do you people remember the 2000 Republican primaries? McCain's "illegitimate black baby", who was actually his adopted Bangledeshi daughter? This bunch rode to power on racism. Their policies hurt poor minorities the most. They deserve to burn for their sins.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:50 AM
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15. This regime despises juries. Their form of jurisdiction is Sciavo and
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 09:52 AM by higher class
the border with Mexico.

They had THEIR judge out there in Florida - he was the fanatical reverend. They had their jury - demonstrators who got Jeb Bush AND DeLay to do what they wanted. It was justice by posse.

They roam the border as vigilantes. As someone said - They are KKK without the hoods.

Everything they have said and everything they do points to disdain for judges and juries.

If there are indictments, you can bet that they will attack two ways - color and intelligence. They are going to verbally massacree those jurists and Fitgerald and his team, except that they will attack Fitzgerald on a political basis and the fact that he is unmarried. Innuendo.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:09 PM
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18. I agree it's dirty pool they play. They don't want to abide by the
law. They want their own circus court.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:11 PM
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20. Miers is unmarried.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:13 PM
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21. Not sure what that has to do with anything. But, I am reminded of Clerks
the cartoon series (short-lived as it was).

"Hey, Lando, maybe you can help us with a jury. See, its an all black jury - "

"Hmm... All black. An all black Jury. All black. Twelve men, all of them black... Sorry, can't help you"
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