How will Iraqis vote today affect Bush's rating?

[Road Scholar]

It seems a little complicated to me. I would never wish anything against the poor Iraqis, but I am interested in anything that exposes theis decietfull white house administration.:shrug:

[LynnTheDem]

1. Will the M$M mention how this "constitution" allows STONING WOMEN?

Doubt it, seeing as how they've never yet bothered to mention that it's STILL LEGAL TO STONE WOMEN TO DEATH IN AFGHANISTAN.

BUSH'S PROGRESS; "Iraq Constitution"!

#1. bush will LIE AGAIN this week about his "PROGRESS" in Iraq;

MOST IRAQIS HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN THE CONSTITUTION THEY'RE TO VOTE ON.

Gee what "PROGRESS"!

It's expected to pass, because the VIOLENCE will keep Iraqis away from the voting booths.

Gee what "PROGRESS"!

Iraqis vote on 'invisible' constitution

Insurgency hampers distribution of crucial document as millions prepare to go to the polls this week...
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article318225.ece

#2. 2000 Americans dead...for an IRANIAN-STYLE ISLAMIC STATE of repressed women in IRAQ;

"Unmaking Iraq, the Constitutional Process Gone Awry,"

The Iraqi constitution as written will push that country toward full-scale civil war, a report from a nonprofit organization warns. Melissa Block talks with Robert Malley, director of the International Crisis Group's Middle East program.
http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?l=1&id=3703

"It may well be more of a prelude to civil war than a step forward," Anthony H. Cordesman said in an analysis for the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

The Bush administration endorsed Iraq's proposed new constitution yesterday, but analysts warned that some provisions can be interpreted to undermine everything from the distribution of political power to a secular judiciary, from women's rights to fair distribution of oil revenue.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/24/AR2005082402217_pf.html

There are, however, significant doubts about the religious nature of the new constitution...

"It is written by Islamists for Islamists"

Zainab and her friend Zahra, 37, are both deeply apprehensive about the effect the constitution will have on women's rights. Since "liberation" by US-led forces they have seen the growth in the power of Muslim clerics and the diminishing power of choice.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article318609.ece

The Iraqi constitution's downside for women
http://www.juancole.com/2005/09/iraqi-constitutions-downside-for-women.html

Iraqi Women May Lose Basic Rights Under New Constitution
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0723-06.htm

Iraq's Draft Constitution Is Said to Deepen Divide...will likely trigger civil war...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/26/AR2005092601442.html

UN issues warning over Iraq constitution

There are fears that Iraq's draft Constitution, due to go a referendum next week, could trigger the break up of the country and even spark a bloody civil war.
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2005/s1473209.htm
Americans Die for Sharia (ISLAMIC STATE) in Iraq

It's so Abdul the Iraqi can have six wives. It's so women can be forced to wear the abaya, alcohol can be banned, and sharia law – Muslim religious beliefs as interpreted by a council of mullahs and "grand ayatollahs" – can become the law of the land. As one of the Shi'ite clerics' representatives put it the other day:

"We don't want to see equality between men and women because according to Islamic law, men should have double of women. This is written in the Quran and according to God."
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=4774

#3. Iraq "constitution"...A Lose-Lose Referendum;

Five days before Saturday's referendum on Iraq's proposed constitution, the U.S. foreign policy elite appears both anxious and gloomy, increasingly worried that win or lose, the process will bring Iraq one step closer to civil war and, with it, the possible destabilisation of the wider region.

"We've looked for the constitution to be a national pact, and the perception now is that it's not," Gen. George Casey, the commander of U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq, told lawmakers here last week. "Now this constitution has come out, and it didn't come out as a national compact that we thought it was going to be."

Makiya believes the combination of violence and the constitution threatens "the very idea and very possibility of an Iraq".

Barbara Bodine, a veteran diplomat and Middle East expert currently at Harvard University, whose appointment to a senior CPA post after the invasion was blocked by neo-conservatives in the Pentagon, echoed that view.

"The United States has 'Lebanonised' Iraq. It is ironic that a structure that worked so poorly for Lebanon is now the template for Iraq."
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1012-03.htm

#4. LUCKY Iraqi women! STONING FOR ADULTERY coming soon!

La Repubblica: "Putting it in a nutshell, there will be no more stoning of adulterous women, is that it?"

Al-Yasari, cleric al Sistani's spokesman:
"Well, it depends. In the case of married women whom eye witnesses can accuse of betraying their husbands, the punishment can only be that. But in any event there will be very few exemplary sentences, and they will always be issued after a fair trial."

Welcome to "liberated" Iraq – that’s what our troops are dying for, and that’s what you’re paying for. It’s medievalism with a "democratic" face.

http://www.iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/39110

STONING WOMEN! CIVIL WAR! VOTE for a "constitution" you've never read! That's PROGRESS if you're a bushbot idiot!

[Road Scholar]

2. Thanks. I can't see how they have anything to hope for. It looks like

Saddam was better for them than Bush. What a shame.

[LynnTheDem]

3. Yes in fact Iraqis were better off with Hussein.

For a comparison of bush vs Saddam;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5032434

[Road Scholar]

4. Wow, thanks Lynn. You are sure on top of this one.

I'm not so sure if Saddam wouldn't have been better for us than Bush.
Ok, Ok, I know, crazy, but just look at the mess we're in. Anybody would have been better. Thanks again.

[LynnTheDem]

5. You're welcome.

I wouldn't go so far as to say better Saddam for us, lol! But he would have kept the American Talibornagains oppressed...hmmmm.

But the Iraqis were better off under Hussein than they are now, and that's a total tragedy. :(

[Road Scholar]

7. It IS a total tradegy. I consider the dead Iraqi population

as having been murdered. Just the same as I do the American lives lost.Not to mention all the families destroyed. All for one spoiled brat's ego.

[kahleefornia]

6. I don't know if its good or bad for Iraq

but, I don't think John Q. Public cares anymore either way. So, I think it will not affect Bush's ratings at all.

Our attention spans are much too short. Look how fast we got over wanting to hear about Katrina.

[Road Scholar]

8. And you can believe that Rove has used that.

I hope he gets what he deserves.I just hope the whole crowd is exposed.

[zanne]

9. Well, we'll see lots of purple fingers...

Remember that? I'm sure he'll get a temporary bump once the vote is officially rigged.

[Road Scholar]

10. Just got my question answered on CNN of all places.

Apparently, Bush has screwed up so much,People just aren't interested whichever way it goes. Some optimism in Jan. after the big purple finger turnout, but so many disappointments has made average voters indifferent about Iraqi internal affairs. They just want the troops to come home.We all do. Thanks to you all for responding

[DemocracyInaction]

11. Ten to One It's "Apathy" and "Confusion"

First, Americans don't give a rat's ass for 'nuttin' unless it is lying in their front yard. But more importantly, don't forget the "ignorant" factor--i.e., how many utter morons in this country thought that month's ago on the "day of the Blue Finger" that that meant Democracy was up, alive and now working with freedom flowing and a chicken in every pot and the war all over and stuff (jesus, you know that's their level of comprehension). Then KABOOM it was "same shit different day" as nothing in the country looked improved or even half way settled down. They don't even know what the hell this 'vote' is for or about or care less. They know that it will all be the same old, same old anyhow. The idiots in the White House can't get it through their heads that this is like trying to do the "Tupperware Party" again---nobody wants it, noboday cares, they've had enough of it to supply six lifetimes and it's sooooo not the 'in' thing anymore. And what it all tells me is that Bush is totally out of tricks.

[BillZBubb]

12. The post vote propaganda campaign will boost Bush slightly.

The M$M will glowingly talk about the "historic" vote and the Iraqi courage in accepting a new Constitution. The Democrats won't say a word against the sham.

He'll go back to near 50%. Then the doofuses who bought the propaganda will come to their senses and Bush will be back below 40% by Christmas.