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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:05 AM
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Just was e-mailed something called "George Carlin on N.O."-
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 11:14 AM by rzemanfl
pretty harsh, is it legitimate?

Example:

The government isn't responsible for giving you anything. This is the
land of the free and the home of the brave, but you gotta work for what you want. McDonalds and Wal-Mart are always hiring, get a damn job and stop spooning off the people who are actually working for a living.PresidentKennedy said it best..."Ask not what your country can do for you,ask what you can do for your country."

ON EDIT: THIS WAS PROMPTLY DEBUNKED AS BULLSHIT BY DUers as I expected it would be.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:05 AM
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1. more right wing bullshit ... why do they insist on claiming Carlin
as their own when he is one of us?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:17 AM
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10. Because they hear four words and only understand one of them
They don't "get" the subtleties in Carlin's writing and only hear the anger without any of the definitions.

In short, they're dumb.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:06 AM
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2. that does NOT sound like Carlin
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:06 AM
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3. Hoax
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:07 AM
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5. beat me to it
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 11:09 AM by helderheid
Urban Legends and Folklore
'Hurricane Rules' by George Carlin

Netlore Archive: A sarcastic rant purportedly authored by comedian George Carlin (or New Orleans musician Bill Boudreux, depending on version) outlining 'rules' for coping in the aftermath of a hurricane

Description: Email flier
Circulating since: Sep. 2005
Status: Falsely attributed
Analysis: See below


Email example contributed by an AOL user, 2 October 2005:

Subject: George Carlin on New Orleans

Been sitting here with my ass in a wad, wanting to speak out about the bullshit going on in New Orleans. For the people of New Orleans... First we would like to say, Sorry for your loss. With that said, Lets go through a few hurricane rules: (Unlike an earthquake, we know it's coming)

#1. A mandatory evacuation means just that..Get the hell out. Don't blame the Government after they tell you to go. If they hadn't said anything, I can see the argument. They said get out... if you didn't, it's your fault, not theirs. (We don't want to hear it, even if you don't have a car, you can get out.)

#2. If there is an emergency, stock up on water and non perishables. If you didn't do this, it's not the Government's fault you're starving.

#2a. If you run out of food and water, find a store that has some. (Remember, shoes, TV's, DVD's and CD's are not edible. Leave them alone.)

#2b. If the local store has been looted of food or water, leave your neighbor's TV and stereo alone. (See # 2a) They worked hard to get their stuff. Just because they were smart enough to leave during a mandatory evacuation, doesn't give you the right to take their stuff...it's theirs, not yours.

#3. If someone comes in to help you, don't shoot at them and then complain no one is helping you. I'm not getting shot to help save some dumb ass who didn't leave when told to do so.

#4. If you are in your house that is completely under water, your belongings are probably too far gone for anyone to want them. If someone does want them, let them have them and hopefully they'll die in the filth. Just leave!

(It's New Orleans, find a voodoo warrior and put a curse on them)

#5. My tax money should not pay to rebuild a 2 million dollar house, a sports stadium or a floating casino. Also, my tax money shouldn't go to rebuild a city that is under sea level. You wouldn't build your house on quicksand would you? You want to live below sea-level, do your country some good and join the Navy.

#6. Regardless of what the Poverty Pimps Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton want you to believe, The US Government didn't create the Hurricane as a way to eradicate the black people of New Orleans; (Neither did Russia as a way to destroy America). The US Government didn't cause global warming that caused the hurricane (We've been coming out of an ice age for over a million years).

#7. The government isn't responsible for giving you anything. This is the land of the free and the home of the brave, but you gotta work for what you want. McDonalds and Wal-Mart are always hiring, get a damn job and stop spooning off the people who are actually working for a living. President Kennedy said it best..."Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

Thank you for allowing me to rant.


Comments: This text has been attributed to both George Carlin and New Orleans musician Bill Boudreux, but I'm 99.99% sure neither of them wrote it. The earliest Internet postings of the text were anonymous. Boudreux's name was appended to a variant found circulating in late September 2005. The version supposedly authored by George Carlin appeared around the beginning of October.

Anonymous rants are often falsely attributed to celebrities, probably because it bolsters their credibility. It has happened to Carlin several times.

"Nothing you see on the Internet is mine unless it came from one of my albums, books, HBO shows, or appeared on my Web site," Carlin has written. "I want people to know that I take care with my writing, and try to keep my standards high. But most of this 'humor' on the Internet is just plain stupid."

Case in point: the text above.





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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:08 AM
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7. Thank you for the prompt debunking, which I will send to the
Bushie who sent me this.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:07 AM
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4. NO.
Sounds nothing like him.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:08 AM
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6. This is NOT George's. This is a crude, dumb rant and George isn't dumb
Even the syntax is wrong.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:09 AM
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8. Totally debunked by Snopes
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 11:09 AM by Rowdyboy
Origins: This list of supposed common sense 'rules' has been attributed both to comedian George Carlin and to New Orleans blues musician Bill Boudreaux. It does not appear to be the work of either: Boudreaux's name came to be associated with the piece more than a week after it appeared, and Carlin's did not appear in association with it until October 2005. Our first sighting of the item was on the alt.vacation.las-vegas USENET newsgroup, where it appeared in a 14 September 2005 post. Even at that early date the identity of the diatribe's author had been obscured, with the poster later disclaiming having written it himself in the discussion thread sparked by his
offering.

George Carlin has disclaimed authorship of similar humor-tinged political screeds (e.g., "Paradox of Our Time," a 'things were better in the good old days' essay executed in the form of a comparison list, and "I'm a Bad American," a point-form essay advancing the cause of intolerance.) As we've discovered, just about any unsourced list of witty observations about politics and social mores will eventually become credited to him as it passes from inbox to inbox. As he has posted on his web site about such soapboxings:
DON'T BLAME ME

Floating around the Internet these days, posted and e-mailed back and forth, are a number of writings attributed to me, and I want people to know they're not mine. Don't blame me.

Some are essay-length, some are just short lists of one and two-line jokes, but if they're flyin' around the Internet, they're probably not mine. Occasionally, a couple of jokes on a long list might have come from me, but not often. And because most of this stuff is really lame, it's embarrassing to see my name on it.

And that's the problem. I want people to know that I take care with my writing, and try to keep my standards high. But most of this "humor" on the Internet is just plain stupid. I guess hard-core fans who follow my stuff closely would be able to spot the fake stuff, because the tone of voice is so different. But a casual fan has no way of knowing, and it bothers me that some people might believe I'd actually be capable of writing some of this stuff.
George Carlin offers this bit of wisdom: "Nothing you see on the Internet is mine unless it came from one of my albums, books, HBO shows, or appeared on my website."

Last updated: 7 October 2005

http://www.snopes.com/katrina/soapbox/carlin.asp
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:09 AM
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9. George is going to be pissed
Yet another piece of fascist shit being attributed to him.
http://www.georgecarlin.com/home/dontblame.html
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:32 AM
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11. Anything that smells of the RW
obviously has nothing to do with Carlin, who hates everything they stand for with a seething passion...seeing him on Real Time trying to keep his head from exploding at some of the RW talking points made that quite clear to me.
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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:50 AM
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12. If Carlin did it, it would be funny
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 12:38 PM
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13. I Saw Carlin In August
I saw Carlin's show in mid-August in Vegas. While he's all for taking personal responsibility, I doubt that he would come out with stuff like that. He was RABIDLY anti-Bush, and his comedy hasn't been this good since the Reagan years. If you want to be certain, watch his upcoming HBO special on November 5th. If he uses the same material, which I'm sure he will, it'll be worth your while!
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:00 PM
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14. Thanks for the tip, every once and a while I am glad I have HBO.
"Rome" has been pretty good too.
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