Is it more acceptable to be a member of the nazi party over the communist

[RagingInMiami]

party in this country? One would think so by listening to media reports on the Toledo riot.

This is not a group of Toledo white people protesting against "black gangs", this is a Virginia group nominating themselves as the seekers of justice.

The fact that some Toledo blacks responded by violence is not a surprise. When I lived in Ireland, and the protestant Orangemen would march through the catholic neighborhoods in Belfast, the catholics would also respond violently. To them, it was a slap in the face that the Orangemen would march through their neighborhoods.

So why should the Toledo blacks feel any different? And how is this any different than when the KKK used to march through black neighborhoods in the south several decades ago? We saw where that got us.

Considering the history of the nazi party (and don't tell there's a huge difference between the neo-Nazi's in this country and the original Nazi party of Germany), why were they given permits to march in the first place? We had a fucking World War to eliminate the Nazi party.

Why aren't they being charged with inciting a riot?

[KingFlorez]

1. I don't think so

Communists in this country don't have hatred toward a group of people or want to incite trouble. I for one think the Nazi Party should be outlawed.

[billybob537]

3. No way

Keep them around they're fun to throw rocks at.

[Spinzonner]

2. Probably in Idaho

:sarcasm:

[OldLeftieLawyer]

4. We had a house on the Snake River

in Idaho a lot of years ago. We also had our name on the mailbox.

It was a very common Jewish name.

It got firebombed. We weren't there.

The Order.

The FBI caught them, and one turned out to be hiding out with his sister just a few miles from our home on the East Coast.

We also had security 24/7 until they were caught.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

5. They have the same right to "protest" as

anyone else, I guess. We periodically go through this down here in the deep south when the KKK decides they want to be in parades and things like that.

Idiots. But in our system, we protect them.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

6. It's freedom of speech,

and their right to speak and march - if they got the proper permits - is just as sacred as yours and mine.

Hateful speech needs to be protected even more than non-hateful speech, for obvious reasons.

Go read up on the proposed Nazi march in Skokie, IL, in 1978. It was my first work as a young volunteer attorney with the ACLU, and it's still one of my proudest experiences.

Here's a start - http://tinyurl.com/bgsdq

[RagingInMiami]

12. But in our country's attempt to spread democracy to Iraq

We outlawed the Baathist party. So why should we allow the Nazi party to exist in the US considering they were one of the main reasons we got involved in WW II?

[OldLeftieLawyer]

14. Because we have a splendid Constitution,

and they don't.

[RagingInMiami]

15. And we saw where that constitution got us during the 1950s red scare

[OldLeftieLawyer]

18. And you see how it got us back,

don't forget.

We fail, and we learn, and we get up again and go forward.

[brokensymmetry]

16. Thank you.

Both for your work with the ACLU, and for pointing out the importance of freedom of speech. How easy it is to forget principle!

[OldLeftieLawyer]

20. You got a great monicker, brokensymmetry ---

Thank you. That was very kind of you.

Yes, we all have to be aware, all the time, of exactly how the game is played. Otherwise, we'll have the game stolen away from us.

[w13rd0]

7. Did you know that an Orangeman,...

...was one of the individuals helping organize the lil nazi rally? Came over from England because he's wanted over there for questioning. Came to the USA because, as he says, the US climate is more receptive to "white sepratist thinking"...

Pretty sick.

[RagingInMiami]

8. That's not surprising

The parallels are so obvious.

[shraby]

9. The most appropriate treatment for

organizations such as the Nazi Party and the KKK is this. Let them have their little marches and people line up on both sides of the street and point at them and laugh. Laugh loud and long. The more ridicule the better.

[Lexingtonian]

10. Yes, Nazi is more acceptable

Simply put, the core of the American Communist Party was proven to be an espionage and sabotage organization of the Soviet Union in this country in the late Forties and early Fifties. It got them the A-bomb and such and was little more than organized treason in effect, whatever the lower level adherents (mostly idealists) believed. In fact, the relatively harmless idealists were excellent cover for the pro-Soviet endeavors.

American Nazis, whatever else they have done- and it's surely a lot more in the way of murder, mayhem, terror, and arson- have never put the society as a whole at perceived risk of complete annihilation. They have always supported the hierarchical government structure and colonial exploitation schemes of the American state, they have always acted in the interests of the dominating classes and castes. They have, for all their ugliness, been useful to the ruling class in keeping the common people divided and in chaos and in fear, and themselves they have always been too stupid to be able to rule even themselves, let alone challenge the ruling class itself.

[Finder]

17. Glad I read the whole post...

I was about to spout at first.

Good post and observations.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

19. One more thing in favor of Nazis:

They wore those really cool jackboots.

Hi, Finder ............ :hi:

[Bonhomme Richard]

11. That's what they thought in Germany. n/t

[stepnw1f]

13. According to Republicans It Is (nt)