Even though she played games...didn't Miller nail Scooter?

[Demoiselle]

She says right up front in her NYTimes piece that Libby told her about Wilson's wife working on weapons issues for the CIA even before Wilson's article came out. That means he identified Plame as CIA...even without a name. Am I wrong? Isn't that all Fitzgerald needs?

[McCamy Taylor]

1. No, she says he told her Plame was not covert. Meaning she is

giving Scooter an alibi, saying he didnt knowingly out a covert agebt.

[Justice Is Comin]

2. No

I think he told her she worked for the 'bureau'. And she as-suuumed it was a bureau analyzing weapons within the CIA. What a crock.

I think Fitzgerald played with her like a cat with a nearly dead rat. You know how they just tap em once in a while?

[Demoiselle]

6. I agree that he played her....and maybe quite effectively....

I know if I were a jury member I wouldn't be impressed with what she says she said.....and even if she gave Libby an out on the "knowingly" bit of that 1982 Agent exposure law....isn't he far from the clear re the broader espionage act law, ie., that he shared classified info with someone not cleared to receive it? Libby, just like all the high rankers, signed papers when he came into office that put him on notice about that sort of thing...and ignorance wouldn't be any excuse, it seems to me...it would be his responsibility to know Plame's status...especially since it's pretty clear he told Judy that Plame WAS CIA. Remember, Judy gets to recount her testimony any way she likes in a newspaper article...but what we don't get in the article is the manner, timing, pointedness of Fitzgerald's questions to her. I can't believe that Fitz wouldn't force all the fudge out of her responses.

[mzmolly]

7. She did have clearance because she was assigned to Iraq for a time?

I don't know why this would give her clearance, but I think something is rotten ... this is how they covered the ol' tracks.

I do hope they get Rove though.

I don't know what will happen with Libby but based on the fact that Judy's covering for him?? :shrug:

[merbex]

8. Based on her article Libby never came out and asked her /confirmed that

she had clearance to receive this information

Judy, you know what they say about ASSUMING? Makes an ass out of you and Libby in this case

[Demoiselle]

11. Exactly. She says that she testified that Libby "may have thought"

she still had security clearance. She also says she wasn't sure herself about her clearance at the time of their conversations. This is a gigantic pot of fudge. We are only hearing what she wants us to hear in this article. And it is full of holes...which I assume Fitz is more than capable of filling, if he's so inclined.

[mzmolly]

16. Ahhhhhhhhh, interesting piece of info.

Though, Libby could claim to have known she did?

Thanks for clarifying.

[joemurphy]

4. If I'm Fitz, I'd be VERY angry at Judy. I'd find a way to

indict Libby any way I could.

Plame's name and status with the CIA were classified information. If Scooter had access to the Air Force One Memo, he knew it. He divulged her status to Miller by Miller's own testimony. He also confirmed her status to Cooper (and probably Novak).

We still don't know what Libby may have told Russert, Pincus, and a few other people.

The Espionage Act only requires knowingly divulging classified info to someone not entitled to get it.

I find it interesting that Miller seems to think that she was entitled to receive classified info due to her status as an "imbed" with a unit that was searching for WMDs in Iraq. Rumsfeld gave her access to the classified names and identities of CIA agents? My God!
To a newspaper reporter? My mind reels!

[mzmolly]

17. "Miller seems to think that she was entitled to receive classified info ..

due to her status as an "imbed.

Ah, so she did not actually have clearance?

[wellstone dem]

5. If he told her Plame was not covert

and she was, that makes it even worse, because it is trying to lure Miller into thinking it's safe to publish this.

[jazzjunkysue]

13. There was no reason to be discussing her at all. It's all smoke.

A NY Times reporter isn't supposed to be discussing CIA agents at all with anyone in the admin. Period.

It's evidence of the outing and Libby's attempt at a coverup.

And it all contradicts what they told Ashcroft at the onset.

It's all smoke, and it's all enough to get him fired.

[IntravenousDemilo]

15. That would be a pretty poor alibi, if you ask me.

If he told her Plame was not covert, while actually knowing she was covert, then that would put him in even deeper shit.

[spooked]

3. I get the feeling she added that "'Victoria Wilson' with a box around it"

to her notes AFTER she got out of jail, to imply that Libby was not the same person who leaked the info. to Novak...

"I told Mr. Fitzgerald I believed that before this call, I might have called others about Mr. Wilson's wife. In my notebook I had written the words "Victoria Wilson" with a box around it, another apparent reference to Ms. Plame, who is also known as Valerie Wilson.

I told Mr. Fitzgerald that I was not sure whether Mr. Libby had used this name or whether I just made a mistake in writing it on my own. Another possibility, I said, is that I gave Mr. Libby the wrong name on purpose to see whether he would correct me and confirm her identity."

[Disturbed]

9. She's freakin liar and not very good at it.

I hope she gets indicted for Obstructing Justice, at the very least.

[NYC]

10. She was not straightforward about it.

From page 3 of an 8 page NYT article:

...Ms. Miller said her notes leave open the possibility that Mr. Libby told her Mr. Wilson's wife might work at the agency...

...Ms. Miller said "she had not been at the receiving end of a concerted effort, a deliberate organized effort to put out information."...

Edited to add link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/16/national/16leak.html?hp&ex=1129435200&en=ae9961705f60a5d9&ei=5094&partner=homepage

[creeksneakers2]

12. We now know

that Cheney sought out information from the CIA after Wilson's first anonymous article. We know that Libby knew about Wilson and his wife before Wilson went public. Did Libby get the information from Cheney? Is there any culpability there?

[LunaC]

14. Here's an excellent analysis shredding Miller's NYTimes piece

Compliments of jefferson_dem

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5072047

[Neil Lisst]

18. She probably did nail him on some points.

Like the fact that he told her about Plame in June, even if he didn't mention her by that name.

[writes2000]

19. Yes, I believe Miller nailed Libby in THREE ways

1) She revealed that Libby told her that Wilson's wife worked in the CIA. And she revealed that he told her this info before the Novak column came out. In my mind, since Plame was covert, revealing that she was in the CIA at all is a CRIME.

2) Miller explained that Libby's lawyer told her that Libby claimed he did not share info about Plame with Miller. That means that Libby committed perjury. CRIME #2.

3) When Fitzgerald asks her if she felt that Libby was trying to influence her testimony by telling her how Libby had testified, Miller claimed that it was indeed troubling. Trying to influence someone else's testimony? CRIME #3.