It all started with the Supreme Court and the election of 2000...

[kentuck]

They were emboldened and rewarded by the Supreme Court on that fateful day. One decision led to another as their arrogance evolved into certainty. Then Dick Cheney had his secret energy meetings, with Ken Lay and others, but no one was ever permitted to know who was involved in those meetings? Why the hell not! Cheney took it to the same Supreme Court and won again. If they were not emboldened by those two monumental but horrendous decisions, then what was to restrain them when they decided it was OK to lie to the American people and to the world and send our troops off to die for a bunch of lies, which had absolutely nothing to do with the attacks of 9/11. They grew more and more corrupt. Now we are where we are - thanks much to our esteemed Supreme Court.

[Beam Me Up]

1. Exactly right. n/t

[autorank]

2. Important History, Important Lesson, SCOTUS Must be Punished

This is the vital piece of history. The court interfered with a state matter that was being handled in an organized fashion. In fact, the court should have held itself at ban and interfered only if Jeb and Mr. Roberts had tried to steal the electors. The court is complicit. It is guilty, it is the facilitator of all our current ills. Those who participated must be punished through removal from the court. The trial simply requires a recitation of the evidence, i.e., the summary above. Summary impeachment of the seven (of 7-2) and any new Bush judges, who are manifestly illegitimate!

[texpatriot2004]

4. And so it is. You are, as usual, 100% correct here. Thanks for

this hopeful news.

[texpatriot2004]

3. Esteemed ha! Esteemed my ass. The "High Court" has fallen

from grace and no justice comes from them.

"No justice no peace" as the saying goes. They have made a mockery of our judicial system. Greed runs the court just like greed runs the Congress with few exceptions.

It's disgusting. The "Supreme Court" had NO business getting involved in our "election." NONE! They will never recoup their "esteem" after such an egregious act.

[KT2000]

5. Yes it did

the people who assisted in this have been rewarded with positions in government and continue their criminal activities.

The stolen 2004 election further emboldened them because they thought they would never get caught at anything. Oh how I hope for something to come from the Fitgerald investigation.

[Mind_your_head]

6. ehm, I think we are 'here' because when all of what you describe

happened (and it surely did).....there wasn't even a 'peep' from the American people. Apparently, everything was 'okay' with them. 'They' now had the consent of the governed because no one cared enough/or dared enough to complain.

:cry:

[kentuck]

7. a "peep" ?

Obviusly you were not here or in Washington DC on inauguration day as people were fighting mad?

[Mind_your_head]

8. I don't mean the folks reading/posting on DU , et al

I've read that there are about 1 million Americans who actually have some understanding of what's been going on lately.....

that means that there are 279 million other americans out there who don't appear to give a rat's *ss what's going on - or they know, but they're 'in on the take' so they won't complain.....and then there's the ones who are fully taken advantage of but don't KNOW it, so they won't complain. It's all just a frustrating mis-adventure (as probably all of us has experienced).

It's a frustrating mess!

Peace

[gumby]

9. This is the same Supreme Court

that the right-wing just hates, Hates, HAtes, HATes, HATEs, HATES!!!

Go figure.

[ngGale]

10. Very odd, but saw *Bork* on MSM one night and...

he said that SCOTUS was suppose to be a "Constitutional" body, not a "political" body...and that's exactly what they had become.

Not in my lifetime would I find myself agreeing with *Bork* - didn't think. <shock>

[Hardrada]

11. I agree.

[preciousdove]

12. 4 only 4 of us showed up at Wellstones office to beg him to

not allow the illegal electors from Florida and Texas in 2000.

We were told, among other things, that it would provoke a "Constitutional Crisis". We said in no uncertain terms that we already were in one and things could only get worse if they went along with this.

They said that there was a deal made by the party to stop the prosecutions of Clinton. Again we said he was willing to take the heat and he was. Freeh's recent 60 minutes piece was an announcement retraction of that deal but I don't understand it at this late date. It must be some alternate reality going on there.

The Supreme Court and the Democratic party sold us out and they got a negative, plunder of our rights, freedoms, strength and treasury for decades in return. Was there no leader who could educate America to what was happening? How could so many people be so blind and why are we still two steps behind?

[Perky]

13. I am in the minority on the Cheney Meetings

10 years ago the GOP was howling about Hillary's Health Care meetings and the view was that it was none of anyone's business how the game plan as being developed.

I think the same rule applies The executive has to have some ability to "canvass" industry leaders, neo-cons, zealots, housewives, soccer players...whomeever without having to tell the world what everybody said. That's how policy gets formulated.

In this instance, we are looking for reasons by which to crucify Cheney on Iraq and oil industy ties.

These were not hearings, no one was sworn....they wre private meetings. We have suspicions that those meetings may have led to crimes being committed, but until someone ix charged with war crimes or is impeached, I don't think we have a right to know what than what happened any more than the republicans wanted to know what Hilaty and Bill were doing in their healthcare meetings. right

Does the public always have the right to know?

It hinges on the issue of driminality ..but we should not require evidence in search of a crime.

Show me a crime...sorry...I mean a federally indictable offense....and then I will be glad to deliver the subpoena myself.