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Sun Oct-16-05 02:23 AM
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Judith Miller ended her story with this: |
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In answer, I told the grand jury about my last encounter with Mr. Libby. It came in August 2003, shortly after I attended a conference on national security issues held in Aspen, Colo. After the conference, I traveled to Jackson Hole, Wyo. At a rodeo one afternoon, a man in jeans, a cowboy hat and sunglasses approached me. He asked me how the Aspen conference had gone. I had no idea who he was. "Judy," he said. "It's Scooter Libby."
Note: this is in August. She had at least 2 lengthy interviews with him, one in June and one in July. Now she wants us to believe she didn't recognize his voice...Riiight.
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Sun Oct-16-05 02:26 AM
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1. Sure thing Judy. Whatever. We're not as stupid as your acting. |
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Judy Miller is a liar and traitor just like those she's hiding. Who are you hiding Judy?
And the NYTimes is complicit. Keller is playing coy but neither he nor Sulzberger are innocent here.
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Sun Oct-16-05 02:27 AM
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2. And, as I pointed out in another thread, it did not answer Fitz' question. |
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Sun Oct-16-05 02:34 AM
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6. what a complete non-sequitur! |
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Her "interpretation" of bad poetry from a person is to say, "I wasn't able to recognize the author in person"?
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Sun Oct-16-05 02:27 AM
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3. Is she that much of a flake? I mean, those were long WMD stories. |
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She has to have some appreciation of detail.
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Sun Oct-16-05 02:32 AM
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4. Her story starts with lies, |
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has lies in the middle, and lies towards the end. So I guess having a lie for the ending makes sense.
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Sun Oct-16-05 02:42 AM
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I read this very carefully last night (in Europe) and will re-read and re-read.
Lies, yes. But maybe too hastily concocted...
As for this ending - it looks like another coded message to my eye.
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Sun Oct-16-05 02:49 AM
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10. Yeah, why would she drop the A-word? |
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...especially since the conference had nothing to do with meeting Scooter.
Sticks out like a thumb.
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Sun Oct-16-05 07:39 AM
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have noticed that. I think you have focused on one of the single most important things in her article. David Corn noted that the editors at the NY Times should have returned that to her with a question about why it is included, as it has nothing to do with the story.
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Sun Oct-16-05 02:40 AM
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7. Maybe because all those conversations she ascribed to Scooter were |
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really conversations with BIG DICK???? He used to work on the Hill, too!!!
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Sun Oct-16-05 02:48 AM
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9. Amazing coincidence. How did he happen to be in Jackson Hole? |
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And at the same "rodeo"?
What gives there?
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Sun Oct-16-05 05:30 AM
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16. This sounds like a story she told hubby after she got busted |
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Sure you just bumped into him at Jackson Hole. I mean, otherwise, why would Judy be there connected at his root, like an Aspen?
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Sun Oct-16-05 07:34 AM
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Sun Oct-16-05 10:40 PM
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23. To which I might respond what hole was he in, again? n/t |
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Sun Oct-16-05 03:47 AM
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11. poor attempt at fictionalizing a serious situation. |
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Sun Oct-16-05 04:44 AM
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12. right...creating little scenarios...?!? oh please |
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--reads like a bad movie script, starring Judy. But that's the narcissist way. Reality is however you paint it. Expect more pulp fiction from Baghdad Judy before it's over, dragging the profession of print journalism down even further. The NYT should be ashamed, that is, if they have any integrity left around there.
Judy Miller and Miss Piggy have a LOT in common.
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Sun Oct-16-05 05:23 AM
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13. Yeah, just like Precious Leader didn't know Ken Lay. |
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I'm pretty sure Patrick Fitzgerald isn't retarded.
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Sun Oct-16-05 05:24 AM
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14. It amazes me how other journalists......... |
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are sticking up for this snake in the grass. Lou Dobbs is her biggest supporter but you'd think he could see through her obvious lies. Even if journalists are worried about protecting their sources, common sense must prevail. SOMEONE is guilty of treason in the White House. If a journalist knew that person why would he/she protect that source as a "confidential source"? When high crimes have been committed this "journalist/source" crap goes out the window as far as I'm concerned. For other stories it's fine, graft, corruption, even lower crimes, but TREASON? Give me a fucking break. There is NO good reason to protect someone like that.
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Sun Oct-16-05 07:42 AM
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19. On other hand, commentator on NPR Sunday Weekend Ed. was scathing. |
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Sun Oct-16-05 07:52 AM
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by Judith's "co-workers" paints a very unpleasant picture of her.
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Sun Oct-16-05 05:28 AM
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15. The lady doth protest too much |
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Someone said that. Some dead guy.
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Sun Oct-16-05 07:52 AM
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21. Libby to Miller: "the Aspens are turning" (Stick to Plan A)... |
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and if Plan B were needed, it would have been "the Birch are turning".
Miller to Libby: "held in Aspen, Colo." (Testified as ordered)
BTW: Libby's closing paragraph was:
"You went into jail in the summer. It is fall now. You will have stories to cover--Iraqi elections and suicide bombers, biological threats and the Iranian nuclear program. Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them. Come back to work---and life."
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Sun Oct-16-05 08:34 AM
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22. Here's my question: How well does Miller know Libby? |
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Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 08:34 AM by dalloway
From all my reading at DU, etc., I've had a general sense that they knew each other well--were close, sympatico etc.
I thought Miller's piece in the Times went out of the way to show them as barely knowing each other--making them out like strangers, and, indeed, I think this story plays into that (didn't even recognize him! right).
As questioned above, how did she JUST HAPPEN to be in Jackson Hole where the VP lives? Gotta thinkt that is where they hashed out what they were going to say to keep the lid on this. Probably came up with their coded language that was then evident in Libby's letter.
Do we know how well Libby and Miller really knew each other?
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Sun Oct-16-05 10:55 PM
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24. Call me crazy...but I don't think it's a coincidence that she used "Aspen" |
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...again.
I mean come on...Libby uses "Aspen" in that poem to Judy. The poem was blatantly telling her to "turn" (evidence, against the higher ups, etc), and to come back to work and life.
Aspen is a symbol. Other DUers have figured it out and I say they're right. Recently a conference for uber-elite conservatives was held in Aspen. It was a turning point, because everyone was against Bush. Although everything is off-the-record at this conference Robert Novak was given the green light to report that Bush's friends were now against him.
As other DUers have said, Libby was telling Miller that "they're all connected at the roots" and they all "turn together" because that is exactly what transpired at that conference.
I think Scooter--a good friend to Judy--was telling Miller that it was no longer necessary to protect BushCo officials that everyone hated. Her services were no longer needed.
Also...jeans, a cowboy hat and sunglasses...sounds like Bush to me. I'm not saying Bush was there. I think she's speaking in code...and sending messages. I know this sounds a little tin-foil hattish. However, who talks like this?
Libby writes poems to Miller. He knows where she vacations (Aspen) and is concerned enough to tell her to come back to life and work....However, we're supposed to believe that Miller wouldn't recognize him one foot in front of her?
Maybe my analysis is wrong, but I know one thing---what these people are saying to each other is in code. They're sending messages to each other through poems and articles.
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Sun Oct-16-05 11:02 PM
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25. is anyone in M$M saying how totally stupid this all sounds...a grade |
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Z thriller written by a first grader
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Mon Oct-17-05 02:53 AM
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26. Justin Raimondo has LOTS about Judy in Jackson Hole. |
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