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oregonindy Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:44 PM
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if you havent read this you need to....one victim's story....
http://www.sundayherald.com/52304

One victim's story




Investigation by Neil Mackay



ON each stage of his journey, as he descended further and further into the gulags and torture chambers of the war on terror, Benyam Mohammed al-Habashi was shadowed by British intelligence. The British were there in Karachi when Americans interrogated him and Pakistanis tortured him; they were feeding questions to the Moroccan torturers who took a scalpel to his penis; they stood back and watched as he was dragged to an American torture chamber in Afghanistan and then to the gulag of Guantanamo, where he languishes to this day.
Al-Habashi is a perfect example of what happens to a person who has been subjected to “extraordinary rendition”. This process sees someone suspected of involvement in terrorism snatched off the streets, usually in a third world country, then flown around the world by the CIA to regimes which indulge in torture, to be questioned on behalf of the US.

Hundreds of these “rendition flights” come through the UK, and the payback for the UK is that British intelligence gets to question some of the suspects by proxy – the proxy usually being a Middle Eastern torturer.

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:50 PM
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1. The payback for these "rendition flights" may have been
played out in the tube... and elsewhere.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:55 PM
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2. Same ole same ole
Promoting torture throughout your land. That's the good old USofA.

Can I throw up now? Or maybe I'll scream or go freaking crazy!

HOW DARE THEY? STOP IT ALREADY!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:58 PM
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3. Torture does nothing positive
it degrades the souls of the torturers and the national spirit of countries which condone it. I pray that the world will awaken from this global nightmare and start following the Teachings, which are the same in all religions-do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 02:08 PM
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4. And our prezy-dent is vetoing a bill that would prohibit it!!!!!
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 02:16 PM
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5. what is more important
a war on terrorism, or a war against inhumanity to man/beast/environment.

Would it be unreasonable, when we get power again, to tax the rich until we get enough money to make some big differences in the lives of people. Just the upper one persent would generate a lot of funds. If they don't like it and threaten, so what. We get their money and take back our america. It is not like we would be putting them in the poor house, just getting back some of the excess of the excess of the excess that they don't need. I can't imagine things changing until we get the poor good schools, safe places to live and health care. And find them some work. How many people could a school pay with an extra billion a year. What we are spending in Iraq, that is not unreasonable.

I think we have been living under unreasonable laws petting the rich and the corporations. Tax them, let them squeel and take back our own country.

Would something like that be possible, or do they just have too much power.
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