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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:35 PM
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Remember when Judy Miller received a fake "anthrax" letter in 2001...
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 04:59 PM by tgnyc
Someone mailed letters containing anthrax to ABC News, NBC News, CBS News, The New York Post, and the Florida-based company that publishes the National Enquirer in mid-September.

On October 4, an employee of the Florida media company is confirmed to have contracted anthrax.

The next day, a letter containing a white powder is mailed from Florida to the New York Times reporter Judy Miller. The powder tests negative for anthrax.

It always struck me as odd that someone would go to such lengths to raise fear in the halls of the New York-based news media industry, yet somehow skip over the Times. Or that someone merely carrying out a copycat hoax just happened to hit the one major media target that had been previously missed, even though that fact (that the Times never got and never would get an anthrax letter) was not known at the time.

Now that we know how sleazy Miller can be, is it not worth revisiting this episode? If Fitzgerald were permitted to check Judy's phone records from September-October 2001, might he find an interestingly-timed call down to Florida?

Or are we in tinfoil-hat world?

on edit: Understand, I'm not suggesting Miller had anything to do with the real anthrax attacks. Rather, I'm wondering about the fake "anthrax" letter she received.

More, including timeline, here.

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:38 PM
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1. IMO nothing is tinfoil any more
Tinfoil theories are almost always more in line with reality than the official government reports.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 08:34 AM
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21. where the Official source has lost credibility categorically--yes, yes
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:39 PM
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2. Anthrax business needs to be investigated thoroughly
The fact that people died in an obvious conspiracy that targetted only liberal sources is one of the biggest unreported scandals of this administration.

We need to find out the truth.

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:49 PM
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7. If Dems ever gain control of the WH and Congress, this should be near the
top of the hundreds of investigations going begging.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:41 PM
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3. I don't think anyone's "tinfoil hat"
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 04:41 PM by zidzi
can be on too tight in the age of a judy miller(mata hari) :tinfoilhat:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Hari

I don't even remember that..good clue!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:43 PM
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4. You actually raise a good point.
And Judy wouldn't have had to call Florida. She would simply have had to point out to one of her trusted "sources" that people might be more impressed by the reporting of those who had come thru the anthrax, as they were obviously perceived as a threat to the terrorists.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:46 PM
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5. Mailed from Florida, eh???


Heh, heh, heh, That YOU, Jebbie???? Now, Jebbie, now...I just need ya to hep me out here...go get some corn starch outa the cupboard, yeah...I'm sure you got some, that wife a yers is Mexican, don't they like corn? Heh, heh, heh...anyways, put some in a little en-vell-ope, but, wear gloves, heh heh, and send it to this gal friend of ours up in New York City...use block letters when ya address it, now...heh, heh....oh, and keep this on the QT, OK Jebbie???
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:50 PM
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8. Its always good to have a little comic relief, I could just picture John
Stewart narrating that.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:53 PM
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9. Heh, heh, heh....
The sad thing is, though, I damn near almost believe it!!! These clowns are like the Gang that Couldn't Lie Straight!!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:56 PM
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10. Your killing me. I believe anything from these crooks, its the kind
of strateegeree that they would employ.



Strateegeree - Bush word made up to fight the war on terra
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:48 PM
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6. You're just asking questions and making connections between events.
It's the kind of things reporters used to do.

Recommended.
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 08:22 AM
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20. And maybe now that Judy may become something of an outcast
among her colleagues, one of them might be willing to undertake such an investigation.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:05 PM
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11. Recommended, The fake letter was never traced down either
let alone the ones with real anthrax. Just a coincidence eh?
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:07 PM
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12. Your thinking is sound. They were setting it for her to be a hero.
Giving her attention. She's been in bed with them a long time.

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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 01:39 PM
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23. Actually, I think she might have done it herself
-- the fake letter, I mean.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:45 PM
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13. Exactly, nothing is tinfoil anymore. Nothing
The country would recoil in horror if they knew the real truth about so many things.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:49 PM
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14. Good point!
I have no doubt that this administration is behind the letters.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 07:10 PM
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15. Hey I am late to this party but what a fascinating observation.
My first thought and that's all I'll go with as I am otherwise quite ignorant of the particulars...my first thought is that the letter gave Ms Miller some credentials as
a journalist 'worthy of being feared, targeted.'
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FourStarDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 08:14 PM
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16. Did any other journalists/ anchors get fake anthrax too, or just Judy?
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 08:15 PM by FourStarDemocrat
I remember that ABC recieved one..and maybe CBS, but now I can't remember if those letters contained traces of anthrax or were completely fake powder. If it were just Judy receiving the faked one, that would be interesting indeed.



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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 09:47 PM
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17. There were several other hoaxes in the following several months,
but none of them involved anybody working in the news media
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 09:52 PM
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18. The thing you need to be aware of is that mail travels in 3-5 days
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 09:59 PM by IChing
She received hers the day after the other ones, not 3-5 days later in order to be a copy cat

The day after the other real anthrax letters were received which means that
whoever sent the real ones and whoever sent the fake one to her
where one in the same.

A copy cat letter fake anthrax writer would not be possible in the time frame.
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 10:33 PM
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19. Not sure what you're getting at, but according to
Wikipedia, her letter was postmarked Oct. 5, while the other media letters were mailed on Sept. 17th and 18th. Doctors misdiagnosed the symptoms of several affected people until the first confirmation that anyone had anthrax came, on Oct. 4th.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 08:36 AM
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22. This administration and its allies in the media ...
will try to label anyone that draws the obvious conclusions from the anthrax episode as a moonbat. The facts are that the investigation dead ends at the front gate of a US military installation. What was the name of that office that Scooter Libby headed up over at the pentagon? The office of "Special Projects".
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