BREAKING : NY Daily News - Someone has flipped in the WH (PLAMEGATE)

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NEW YORK DAILY NEWS TO REPORT THAT SOURCES BELIEVE SOMEONE HAS FLIPPED IN WHITE HOUSE, AIDING LEAK INVESTIGATION.... DEVELOPING...

http://www.rawstory.com

[sandnsea]

1. I hope it's Harriet Miers

That would just be too ironical for words. Whoever it is....

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:woohoo:

[YEM]

3. I believe it's Powell and he has been helping from day one.

I really believe Powell is at the center of this and he wants to "right a wrong."

[Sanity Claws]

17. Powell's been talking for a while

He's not a recent flip.

[cyberpj]

32. That's been my thought for a long time now. He owes them that I think.

whoever it is - GOOD. Although they're probably only doing it to save their own sking at this point.

[sandnsea]

51. Probably so

I was just sayin', wouldn't it be a hoot if old Harriet brought down the White House?

[EFerrari]

61. He's an old hypocrite and I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT. n/t

[aquart]

66. Powell is not IN the White House.

He's long gone. And bitter. Very bitter.

Who've we got who's still around?

[IndyOp]

85. Powell shouldn't have told their lies

to keep his family in a 'good' position. He'd be less bitter.

I actually liked him at one time and I was pissed when he LIED.

:grr:

[proud2BlibKansan]

113. It doesn't matter if he is there or not

You know he knows stuff from when he WAS there.

[Jack from Charlotte]

94. Bush flipped and is implicating the higher ups.*

[hvn_nbr_2]

100. Good one. n/t

[crispini]

111. Dude, you totally made me snort water out of my nose with that one.

Ow ow ow! :rofl:

[mmonk]

128. Pffffffft!

:spray:
Those neocons didn't know who they are dealing with when they hired bush.

[Marie26]

130. But would testimony from such a minor figure really help much? n/t

[senseandsensibility]

151. LOL

Probably not; it's not like he knows anything about ANYTHING.

[KC21304]

166. Where would they find an interpreter

to help him with his story ?

[SharonRB]

190. You crack me up

[pacalo]

110. See my post down below: #103.

It's good to know that Powell has helped the investigation, isn't it, YEM, but I believe this breaking news is in regard to a recent turn.

I'm thinking it's Turdblossom.

[LittleClarkie]

So he's a "Deep Throat" kind of character

do you think?

[i miss america]

143. ITA! They treated him like shit and made him look like an ass

Now it's time for him to sing and dance...

[pacalo]

146. That picture is a classic!

[i miss america]

158. Absolutely! And destined to be immortalized in a future JibJab animation

I hope :popcorn:

[pacalo]

163. Fo' shizzle.

:headbang:

[i miss america]

169. The day weve been doggy stylin fo is jizzle around tha corna

:headbang:

[pacalo]

171. I'm down with that.

:headbang:

[drb]

157. Now who would you rather have in a position of power...

...a decent honest person who sincerely believes that the Republican platform is best for the country, or a slippery dog-shit pseudo-Democrat like Zell Miller?

[jayctravis]

159. I hope it's Powell.

He's the one person I'd like to see shake off the dust in the happy ending.

[AntiCoup2K4]

174. But Powell isn't a "senior White House official"

For one thing, he resigned. Besides, he was a State Department official. Not the White House.

If it's a White House official, your suspects are Scooter, KKKarl, Andy Card, Scotty the Duck, etc. Out of that list, Scooter's probably the most expendable, and Scotty's probably tired of fielding questions. I'd be very shocked to see Card, and certainly KKKarl turning against the Chimp.

[MADem]

192. But maybe the flipper is NOT turning against the Chimp?????

Maybe the Flipper is ROVE, who returned to the GJ for a 4th time, and he is gonna pin the WHOLE mess on a rogue bunch of evildoers ON CHENEY's crew. Thus, Cheney goes down, Scooter goes down, Matalin goes down, but Bush's minions claim, in unison, that they were DUPED. That evil CHENEY bunch--they DECEIVED us!!!!

Remember that mountain climber who was pinned under a rock, and cut his own ARM off, without any anaesthetic, to survive?

It could be Mountain Climbing time at the White House, is all I am saying....

[EFerrari]

59. I hope it's Laura.

:rofl:

[bahrbearian]

77. " George stop that , right now!"

I'll tell,, I swear I'll Tell!"

[TayTay]

60. Thanks for the laugh.

That was awesome. My favorite comment of the day.
HAhahahahaha!

:rofl:

[Fla Dem]

184. No, not her . The real reason * nominated her to the Supreme Court

was to keep her quiet. She probably knew what went down, so told Bushy, "Either you nominate me to the SC or I talk."

:rofl:

[moc]

2. Oh god, I'm going to bust

I can't take too much more waiting.

:nuke:

:popcorn:

[atommom]

4. For some reason, I have the mental image of someone

in the WH singing, dancing, and doing actual flips. If this story is true, I might do all of those things myself!

[hobbit709]

41. It's almost time

for the Ren & Stimpy "HAPPY, HAPPY, JOY, JOY" dance.

[dflprincess]

89. Everybody Conga!

My mother has announced that, if Rove is indicted, she will lead a Conga line down Hennepin Ave (Minneapolis) just like she did on VJ day. Though with her osteoarthris I worry about her doing this.

[serryjw]

156. Hey..I think there are millions that would join her!

save me a place!

[WiseButAngrySara]

173. OMG! This is a priceless picture. My Mom will join her.

"Everybody Conga!!!!" (Osteoarthritis and osteoporosis are NOT legitimate excuses!)

[LibertyorDeath]

98. "HAPPY, HAPPY, JOY, JOY"

[Carla in Ca]

47. Sounds like the great 'make 'em laugh'

routine by Donald O'Connor in Singin'In The Rain.
When all this finally gets going, we'll all be dancing!

[atommom]

52. Actually, I keep picturing Eric Idle and/or Christopher Walken.

Life has gotten so absurd that it's hard to imagine anything sillier than our current reality...

[Clark2008]

123. Hell, I'll probably even run up the wall like ole Donald O'Conner

did! That always amazed me as a kid.

Shit, who am I kidding? That amazes me now!

[HysteryDiagnosis]

71. No flips... but will this do????

[Prodemsouth]

82. I like your post, why can't the pink tutu Dems use something like

your Laurel and Hardy routine say like in the 2004 campaign.
Answer From Pink tutu Dems: "oh that would not be polite." "We might win using that and Mr Rove would not like us if we won". "We must go around using words people don't understand that makes us look smart".

[atommom]

116. It's a start.

:rofl:

[mirandapriestly]

127. Oh, that is GOOD! nt

[Gman]

5. Could be huge

a John Dean type. Does Rove see his sorry ass being cut loose to drift so he turns state's (fed's) evidence?

[jsamuel]

165. I believe, it could be HUGH!!!1!!!!1111!!!111

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

6. Imho,

they've all flipped.

[Shine]

36. LOL! Good one.

:thumbsup:

Shine

[longship]

7. Oh Ari!!! Come on down!!

nt

[Stephanie]

23. Ari gets my vote

But it would be even better if it was someone who is still inside.

[Tom Joad]

8. I often "flip off" the white house, but that's different, I suppose. n/t

[electropop]

162. We had a group flip-off on Sep 24th.

It was beautiful.

[oregonindy]

9. maybe its bush??? rove's mind control device came off? :P

[RSchewe]

44. Maybe a gust of wind blew off Bush's tinfoil hat n/t

[Tatiana]

10. I think it's Rove. n/t

[smoogatz]

92. I think you're right.

Rove is such an opportunistic little slug--I think he was offered a deal to rat out Cheney. Hold on to your hats!

[Roon]

125. I think it's Rove also

Let's see, rat out Cheney or spend the rest of your life in prison?

[jane_pippin]

183. I can see that. Little weasel will do their dirty work, but not go down

for them. Here's the bad movie version: Karl, smart little nerd that he is, hitches his wagon to the rich jock star to work his evil magic through a "pretty" face, but when his handiwork begins to unravel he jumps ship and lets Jock King and his evil cronies twist in the wind as he slinks into obscurity--or a consulting job, whichever comes first.

[lovuian]

11. No duh!!! Many of us has figured that one and Cheney is going

down as well as Bush!!!

Its either Colin Powell or somebody else but they are squeeling!!!

[Sanity Claws]

12. Libby?

He's in deep doo-doo. He just tried to coach or intimidate Miller as a witness. He probably just figured out that the jig is up and so he's going to sing. (I used to watch a lot of old movies.)
Also there was a photo earlier today that showed Cheney and Rice looking quite bad. They were staring down at their shoes and not even able to put on a phony smile for the camera.

[Cha]

29. I'd like to see that "photo op"!

Freakin' Criminals!

[Sanity Claws]

50. Here's a link to the DU discussion

and photo -- http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5084264

[Cha]

80. Thank you! As to "what were they thinking?"..

I would think they were "praying" if I didn't see Fitz with his head up!

[Dr.Phool]

73. That's called a "Perp Walk".

[Demoiselle]

145. I'm inclined to think Libby, too.

I thought that Judy Miller's piece, regardless of her peculiar lapses of memory, (no actually BECAUSE of her peculiar lapses of memory) really put the finger on him in a number of ways.

[mzteris]

13. bush flipped his lid long ago...... n/t

[xray s]

14. Laura Bush

She just found out what Gannon was up to when he was spending the night at the WH.

[FreedomAngel82]

18. LOL

So someone is going to sing? Oh happy day!

[bahrbearian]

83. George was chomping on more than just Pretzels.

[0007]

109. That would be a story. Gannon and her junior caught cold

turkey. Just like Governor Perry being caught by his wife in bed with another man.



[thereismore]

186. Where is this picture from? Thanks. nt

[0007]

191. I think I got it from one of the Texas newspapers.

You know, I'm not quite sure which one. But it was when junior was governor.

[YEM]

15. It's POWELL!!

I'm sure of it.

[Octafish]

121. The New Deep Throat.

Yours is a good guess, YEM. The thing against it is Powell may not be in the prosecutorial cross-hairs. For someone to be "turned" requires a slam-dunk guilty verdict. Powell probably is cooperating because he doesn't want to be labeled by history as one of the BFEE turdballs. Those who the turned target have named, I hope, are sweating real bullets. They know the punishment for treason during wartime.

[pacalo]

148. When you consider that Powell agreed to take the WHIGs' case of lies

to the UN, wouldn't Powell have been one of Fitzgerald's targets?

[Pithy Cherub]

16. PLEASE let them turn on the top folks at the White House!

POPCORN OVERLOAD:popcorn:

They must have had to flip because they were going to be charged with some serious felonies. I just want one to flip at the John Dean level!:bounce:

[jim3775]

19. I can't take this anymore. My head is exploding on a daily basis. n/t

[Horse with no Name]

131. I hear ya

I had to shut down for a few days because I can't process this BS.
I still have to pass a few of these posts when I get into overload.

[johnfunk]

20. My money is on Powell AND Stephen Hadley

Call it a hunch

[mandyky]

26. I thought Hadley was hard core PNAC

Would he flip?

Curiouser and curiouser! LOL

[KittyWampus]

53. Hadley always seemed really WEAK, so he could crack under pressure

although I think he'd be more afraid of the blowback from the blackhearted thugs he hangs out with to rat them out.

H2OMan suggested Armitage along with Powell.

Sounds very likely to me.

[Marie26]

133. I don't know...

He did meet with Cindy Sheehan, which surprised me. Maybe he's having second thoughts about the whole war effort & the administration that started it?

[johnfunk]

200. I'm wrong -- it was JOHN HANNAH!

This is just too sweet!

Cheney aide cooperating with CIA outing probe, sources say
Larisa Alexandrovna and Jason Leopold
Oct. 18, 2005 / rawstory.com

A senior aide to Vice President Dick Cheney is cooperating with special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson, sources close to the investigation say.

Individuals familiar with Fitzgerald’s case tell RAW STORY that John Hannah, a senior national security aide on loan to Vice President Dick Cheney from the offices of then-Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs, John Bolton, was named as a target of Fitzgerald’s probe. They say he was told in recent weeks that he could face imminent indictment for his role in leaking Plame-Wilson’s name to reporters unless he cooperated with the investigation.

[HeeBGBz]

21. Every man and scum-sucking bottom feeder for himself

[NNN0LHI]

22. I hope no one gets suicided. That is my greatest fear here n/t

[jim3775]

28. Agreed, considering what happened to David Kelly, that VP at Enron and...

that guy involved with the Abramoff casino boat deal, something could happen.

[NNN0LHI]

84. I have been having nightmares about it lately

And please God don't let anyone martyr Chimpy. That would be just about the worst thing that could possibly happen. I shudder to think about it.

:scared:

Don

[PassingFair]

24. Bet Rove....

would sell out Cheney in a "heartbeat"

[FreedomAngel82]

30. Oh of course

And than Cheney would in turn sell him out. And they wouldn't know they're selling each other out and the whole lot of them go to jail!

[shenmue]

25. Hooray, hooray, hooray

Okay, I have to stop my intense hatred of the Daily News for just a moment.

...

There. That was nice.

:evilgrin:

[crispini]

27. Eeeeeeeeeee!

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

[Endangered Specie]

31. My money is on Powell

[Blue_Roses]

33. How accurate is this source?

I hate it when they come out with a headline like this and don't give us anything else.

[warrior1]

39. Well shit

who did Fitz talk to last. rove himself.

[Matariki]

55. is there an actual story?

all i can find is a headline at Rawstory and nothing on the NY Daily's site??

[NewJeffCT]

46. The NY Daily News...

is slightly more reliable than the NY Post. Meaning, it's at best 50-50... which is probably better than the NY Times these days.

[NNadir]

187. The New York Times is asking Scotty right now what it should say.

[MADem]

194. Here is the original cited source, up on the web now

http://nydailynews.com/front/story/356858p-304125c.html

At least one source and one reporter who have testified in the probe said U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald is pursuing Cheney's role in the Valerie Plame affair.

In addition, at least six current and former Cheney staffers - most members of the White House Iraq Group - have testified before the grand jury, including the vice president's top honcho, Lewis (Scooter) Libby, and two top Cheney national security lieutenants.

Cheney's name has come up amid indications Fitzgerald may be edging closer to a blockbuster conspiracy charge - with help from a secret snitch.

"They have got a senior cooperating witness - someone who is giving them all of that," a source who has been questioned in the leak probe told the Daily News yesterday.

-------
It is looking like the CHENEY CREW is gonna take the blame....

[jpak]

34. A WH "traitor" in Traitorgate??? LOL!!!!!

It jus' gits better and more betterer...

:evilgrin:

[meti57b]

35. People come to hate those they are dependent on. Bush will turn in Rove.

[FreedomAngel82]

62. Bush is the type of person

I think who will turn on anybody to save his own ass.

[Kierkegaard]

37. if ANYONE flipped,

I'd imagine it would be Powell.

There are times when it's obvious that the man wears the shame, embarrassment and anger of having been used by the Asshat Gang. Paybacks are a bitch...

But, I'll believe it when I see it.

[Patsy Stone]

38. O, Happy Day!

If it's true, it's a great day.

[longship]

40. Elimination.

Powell? Nope. Chain of command and sense of duty and all that.
Rice? Nope. Lunatic neocon. Drinks the kool-aid.
Rove? Nope. Totally insane and delusional. Brews the kool-aid.
Libby? Maybe. Probably not. That would bring down Cheney. Libby would have a strong sense of duty to Cheney.

It almost has to be a lower level staffer.

My money's on Fleischer or Matalin.

If it *is* Libby, Cheney and Bush are toast.

[TahitiNut]

45. I'm betting on one of the FOUR people who report to Cheney.

I think that's where their cheese is binding the most.

[longship]

54. It'll be a WHIG member.

Ari Fleischer -- number one on my hit parade.

Mary Matalin -- All the exposure to James "Ragin' Cajun" Carville has got to change something (I mean other than total insanity... heehhe)

[TahitiNut]

138. Mary Matalin's a good bet. Not Ari ... he's addicted to the "in-crowd"

I think marriage to the Ragin' Cajun is good career cover for Mary -- lowers the risk of spilling the beans. Mary's always been out for Mary first -- she's not good with that blind loyalty stuff.

[Island Blue]

79. If the * administration is brought down by a man named Scooter

that would be the greatest.

[davidlynch]

86. HAHA This is funny.

[Donailin]

96. I go with Ari

He saw the memo on AF1. He may have named by Novak.

[msanthrope]

108. I agree--I think it's Matalin. She's got 2 small kids, and I'm

sure James Carville told her to get out while she could....

[Carni]

114. I think it's Libby

Hence all the mellodramatic bullshit to Miller about the aspens and live your life and whatever...I am thinking he was telling her he turned and it was OK to testify.

JMO now that I have read this (IF someone singing is a for real deal)

[longship]

139. If it is Libby. This is very, very grave news for the WH.

Who in the hell could he name? He's certainly not going to turn to rat out a bunch of middle-level staffers who are below him.

If Libby turns, Crashcart and Chimp are going down. Maybe Rice.

Libby turning brings down the whole house of cards.

[slaveplanet]

149. I'm thinkin Matalin

as well.....tho I'd love to see that witch burn at the stake

[RoyGBiv]

42. The Daily News, eh?

O-kay.

I'll find this interesting when two things happen:

1) It's reported somewhere other than the New York Daily News.

2) The story is something more than "sources believe." Lots of sources believe lots of things, such as the sources that believed Fitzgerald was announcing indictments, what was it, two weeks ago.

[jim3775]

43. It's not Powell and it's not Ari. Read the headline literally...

"someone has flipped in white house"

Ari isn't in the white house anymore, and Powell was in the state department.

[Im with Rosey]

88. I was thinking this too

I just wasn't sure if I was being to literal.

[FreedomAngel82]

115. Yes so they have to still be there now

So who could it be??

[Beetwasher]

117. If That's Technically True, It's Gotta Be Card

n/t

[Samantha]

126. I was headed to the bottom of the thread to vote for Card

I am with you.

[On the Road]

189. I Was Planning to Post Card, Too

Many of the suggestions posted here are either not in the White House (Powell) or appear to be loyal Gordon-Liddy types (Meirs, Libby, Rove, etc) who would prefer prison to turning state's evidence.

One thing that recommends Andy Card is that he has reportedly had a major feud with Karl Rove, and would probably feel burned if he were caught in the prosecutorial net. He never seemed to fit into the rest of the neocon group anyway.

[TrueAmerican]

48. It must be Bush

Bush was getting tired for being on the bottom, so he FLIPPED with Jeff Gannon and now he is on top.

[katty]

67. very funny! but i think jeffy has always been on top

[RSchewe]

49. Here is my wild guess... Maybe Rove flipped on Cheney. n/t

[eek]

70. Weirdly enuf, before i popped over to DU tonight...

...I had googled something else.
I wondered if Fitzgerald and Judge Lefkow - the Chicago judge whose husband and mother were murdered earlier this year - had any linkage.

Like, the first thing I looked at was (albeit from what lookewd to be a Commie Fluoride Plot site) this:

http://tomflocco.com/fs/CiaFrenchIntell.htm

CIA, French intelligence kill 4, capture 5 Israelis in NY subway attack
Date: Thursday, October 6
Topic: -

U.S. media and NY officials called the incident a "significant, specific threat"

by Tom Flocco

New York City -- October 6, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- Earlier this evening intelligence members of the American-French Alliance stopped an attempt by Israeli Mossad operatives to blow up the New York City subway, according to national security and U.S. intelligence expert Thomas Heneghan.

The federal whistleblower said four Israelis were killed in the altercation and five more were captured just minutes after virtually all U.S. cable news channels, network TV outlets and New York Mayor Richard Bloomberg were reporting their own version of the incident, saying that New York City was "facing a significant, specific threat" in the city's subway.

Heneghan said CNN had the information but host Anderson Cooper did not report the real story to the American people.

Adding to the Bush administration's problems and following on the heels of the August 2, 2005 Bush-Cheney indictment story on TomFlocco.com, cable news channels are now reporting that indictments against White House officials are imminent.

Heneghan said his intelligence sources revealed that White House Senior Presidential Advisor Karl Rove has turned State's evidence and "will implicate other members of the White House" in order to cooperate with U.S. Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald.

The intelligence authority said "22 indictments involving both the Bush and Clinton administrations are pending in a grand jury," adding "more indictments will come quickly and in waves."

I'm just sayin'.

[crispini]

154. TomFlocco.com?

Don't they just make stuff up?

[Kingshakabobo]

56. If it's Rove will he have to do a "work-up" to ...

smear and discredit himself?

[deadparrot]

Taking this with a grain of salt...

I've been disappointed too many times.

But still...:popcorn: if it is true.

[readmylips]

57. My $ is on Mary Madeline.....

Like hell, she doesn't want to go to jail and leave her children. Her husband James C. has disappeared from the scene. Has been gone for a long time. The name of the person who told Bob Novak is still secret, and Novak has who does not want to go to jail, has told Fitz everything. By all the silence around this explosive couple, when they both actually should be on TV making money, it's Mary Madeline who informed Bob Novak.

[carolinalady]

112. me too--n/t

[earthside]

58. It's Bush

If Bush turns state's evidence, then he can legitimately argue that he should pardon himself.

His cronies go to prison, he goes back to the 'Lazy W' a free man in 2009.

That's just what a sociopath like Bush would do.

[katty]

63. of course someone would FLIP-11th hour productions

[democrank]

64. Maybe, just maybe

Fitzgerald filled in some blanks...maybe with Rove`s most recent testimony and then turned up the heat. Something like...Here`s what I can prove...Talk or else. I certainly hope NYDN has the facts.

[brettdale]

65. What does it mean by Flipped?

Where I am from, that means they have gone crazy! It means they have lost thier mind.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

68. In this context, "flipped" means ratted out, turned, gone over to

the other side. Somebody has spilled the beans, telling on the others.

[Sanity Claws]

72. Means go to other side

So if a witness flipped, it means he went from protecting the cabal to ratting on them.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

75. It means they "dropped a dime" on someone....

[Sanity Claws]

78. I just love these old expressions!

I'm waiting for Jimmy Cagney to show up and talk about selling someone up the river.

[mr_hat]

69. Even if the story isn't accurate, it's got to

cause further mistrust between the Scooter and Karl camps.

74. I guess they don't want to do jail time for their cause n/t

[Marr]

76. Scott McClellan.

He's a chickenshit little worm. AND he was put up in front of those cameras and made a fool of in this fiasco. He was Fleischer's assistant at the time of the leak, wasn't he?

[philosophie_en_rose]

81. It's definitely Barney.

Dropped one too many times. . . :)

[flyarm]

87. wooo woooo ..its flipper!!!!!!!!!!!

http://trailers.warnerbros.com/web/xmlvideofeed/play.jsp?id=flipper_trailer&client=Aol&mediaformat=windows&mediaspeed=56000


Flipper
TV Show Theme Music play!
#5..flipper!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.moviegrooves.com/shop/tvtoonsseriesdhier.htm


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[DearAbby]

106. Bush and Clinton administrations ???

Whoa what is going on here?

[tinfoilinfor2005]

90. Could it be a secretary or assistant, someone with an unfamiliar name?

It wouldn't necessarily have to be one of the Big Names, would it? In my experience working in offices, secretaries are often viewed as just an other piece of office equipment so people speak quite freely in front of them. Therefore they often know more about what's going in the whole building than their bosses do.

[mzmolly]

91. Sources "believe" someone has flipped ...

I'll hold my undies until I know fer certain.

[Ksec]

93. Libby rolling over on Cheney ?

and Cheney rolling on bush?

[dbeach]

95. powell may have already helped Fitzgerlad

no link but the loyal man who was shunned and snubbed by the
neo-conjobs would be the perfect foil for the PNAC feeloaders..

[pacalo]

97. I read that he was very helpful; I'm looking for the link now.

[pacalo]

103. Here's an article that indicates Powell was helpful, but it's not the one

I read just recently:

Although the U.S. Attorney’s office in Chicago is staying silent, it is well known that Fitzgerald is digging deep into an assortment of serious improprieties among many Bush administration figures based, in part, on subpoenaed testimony provided by former Secretary of State Colin Powell.

According to federal whistleblower Tom Heneghen, who recently reported on www.truthradio.com, Powell testified before the citizen grand jury that President Bush had taken the U.S. to war illegally based on lies, which is a capital crime involving treason under the U.S. Code.

“Regarding the Powell testimony, there is no comment,” said Sanborn.

ArcticBeacon

[dbeach]

122. I seen it on a fringie site

but he does fit the profile of an insider against the mob..

[Catrina]

99. I think it's Tenet

He has refused to give interviews for a long time, maybe on the advice of his attornys.

In the documentary, 'Dead Wrong' you got the impression that he got caught up in the neocon madness and ruined an otherwise great career, and I get the feeling, he felt he let his colleagues down.

What better way to make up for what he did, (going along with, if not outright telling, the lies) than to tell what he knows. I remember him crying when he resigned.

I think he loves his country, and has a conscience, and may have decided that the right thing to do now is to stop these traitors from doing any more harm to this country.

Colin Powell and Armitage may also have talked, at least in a limited way. Colin Powell has said about his role in the lies that 'I will have to live with that'. I think it was his aide, (could be wrong about this) who said 'I wish I had never gotten involved with this, (the war in Iraq).

[mr_hat]

101. But... but... Boosh gave him a stinking badge!

[CrackpotAmerica]

102. 'Wasn't me!

:kick:

[Beetwasher]

104. Tee Hee Hee! *Giggle* *Snort*

Oh, this is highly amusing!!! 'Tis a thing of beauty to behold!

How's it going in the White House CHUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPS!!!!!!!

[stepnw1f]

105. FLIP FLOP... FLIP FLOP....

FLIP FLOP... Karma

[LibertyLou]

107. BARNEY THE DOG HAS LEARNED TO SPEAK...TELLS ALL...

He says: "Woof! Woof!"
translated to: 'Help! Get me the hell out of here! He's crazy!"

[Ksec]

118. Im starting to believe this is even bigger than we think

You just know that an efficient prosecution with powers could unwind this thing until it reaches the center. So when you know it goes all the way to the top can you just stop on the edge? Fitz seems like the kinda guy who takes things to their conclusion.

To me its not like everything started right from Roves office without smirk knowing and participating by OKing the tactic or ignoring it which means he allowed it and just turned his head.

Im thinking this gets to the core. At least Im hoping that if Smirk is involved he gets his also.

[symbolman]

119. Anybody got the ACTUAL Link?

I refuse to go to RawStory.. it's always from ANOTHER paper.. I don't like getting this chumming spam stuff, only to find that it's NOT A SCOOP, or it's Conjecture FROM ANOTHER PAPER..

When is this going to called by admin? I'm ready to start complaining, there are rules about this here..

[Lex]

124. I agree with symbolman. nt

[MADem]

197. Here ya go--it looks more and more like Cheney's bunch are TARGETS

http://nydailynews.com/front/story/356858p-304125c.html

[jazzjunkysue]

120. Flipping? Ya mean, flipping?

[NNN0LHI]

129. Mary Matalin. A guess? n/t

[Dunedain]

175. That be mine too.

She's way inside both offices.

[Marie26]

132. Could it be Condi?

She looked very uncomfortable on Meet the Press Sunday & refused to say anything beyond the fact that she "cooperated". And she also basically admitted the Bush administration decided to attack Iraq right after 9/11 - that's the first time she's sounded so honest. Had she already decided to flip? She was involved in the White House Iraq Group & probably in a perfect position to hear any discussions by Cheney's crew about Wilson. And, well, she always seemed slightly less fanatical than the rest of them.

[MADem]

195. No, she is STATE, not White House nt

[wellstone_democrat]

134. "Its Bush* and he's implicated God Almighty!"

n/t

[usregimechange]

135. Here we go...

:popcorn:

[Norwood]

136. The house of cards is starting to tremble!

I got my money on either libby or powell. Although I wouldnt be surprised if it was rove.

[usregimechange]

137. Who is the person pictured at that raw story article?

[jefferson_dem]

140. Fitzgerald.

?

[symbolman]

141. This is a RUMOR

and has nothing to do with reality.. conjecture, coulda shoulda, might happen, might not..

Don't understand why everyone DIVES on innuendo and rumors like starving dogs..

Why not start some New Rumors on the DU, we can ALL do it, won't that be fun?

The whole board filled with non factual opinions and delusions, great idea..

I'd rather spend my time research WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.. there are TONS of links available for researching this subject..

This is nothing more than gossip for profit if you don't care about the truth.

[writes2000]

144. The Rawstory article seems pretty factual to me.

I have found Rawstory to be very credible. Could their report be off this time? Yes.

But I have found them to be consistently accurate ever since I started reading their site.

[RSchewe]

142. Some details have finally been posted by The Raw Story...

The case of outed CIA agent Valerie Plame is set to explode.

The New York Daily News is set to report in Tuesday editions that a well-placed source interviewed by the newspaper believes a senior White House official has flipped and may be helping the prosecutor in the case, RAW STORY has learned.

The Daily News will reveal that a top source believes that based on the questioning of Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and his other contacts with the investigation, someone in the White House has turned.

All eyes are on Dick Cheney, the News says, as the investigation wraps up.

The piece follows on the heels of on a story by Bloomberg News and an article by RAW STORY last week confirming that the prosecutor is probing the Vice President.

Also under a microscope is the White House Iraq Group, an ad-hoc strategy group started by Bush chief of staff Andrew Card aimed at selling the war in Iraq.

Two officials close to Fitzgerald told RAW STORY they have seen documents obtained from the White House Iraq Group which state that Cheney was present at several of the group's meetings. They say Cheney personally discussed with individuals in attendance at least two interviews in May and June of 2003 Wilson gave to New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof and Washington Post reporter Walter Pincus, in which he claimed the administration “twisted” prewar intelligence and what the response from the administration should be.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/New_York_Daily_News_to_claim_1017.html

[Pepper32]

155. Hmm...

Sounds like Rove has turned on Dick. B-)

[marions ghost]

177. that's what I'm thinkin too...

Rovester is too proud to take the fall for anybody...nails Cheney. That would be very Rovian of him.

But on the other hand, we could be in for an unpredictable surprise....it's all in the realm of speculation. Nothing wrong with speculation--the usual activity when waiting it out...

[tgnyc]

147. It's Laura.

She's pissed at George for tappin' Condi. Hell hath no fury...

[cascadiance]

150. The story is now "DEVELOPING HARD..."

Look at the Raw Story link now...

[drb]

160. If it's really "developing hard" then maybe it's.....

...Jeff Guckert thinking about sharing a cell with Karl Rove!

[longship]

152. Shit!! Now they're saying SENIOR Admin Official!!

That means:

Hadley
Libby
Rove
Bolton
Any others?

Not very many Sr. Admin Officials.

Oh Dear. Poor Bush administration. This is not going to go well for them if this is true.

[lovuian]

167. Powell was pretty senior but gone now Rumsfeld!!!

thats another!!!

[insane_cratic_gal]

153. It's gotta be Rove.

Maybe Libby's coded message was about Rove's Aspen and turning and all that jazz.

[pisle]

161. Not Sure, but Rove ... hmmmm

Think about Rove. He's the ultimate narcissist -- though many think he's "loyal" to Bush or to the administration, I think he's more liable to be exclusively loyal to himself. He's got many years left in him, and if he senses blood in the water, he's going to find a way out before the sharks converge. Of all of these people, he's the one who would make it a priority that - above all - he comes out of this unscathed.

But, then it could be Libby. Who knows?

[yellowcanine]

164. Rove is afraid for his big fat white ass if he goes to prison.

He doesn't want to become somebody's bitch.

[Ladyhawk]

168. I really don't think any of them will end up in prison.

They control things right now and I'm not sure this investigation will change a thing.

[AgadorSparticus]

170. My guess: KAREN HUGHES?? nt

[HR_Pufnstuf]

172. <poof>

nt

[robbedvoter]

176. Except that it's balloney - NY Daily news has nothing!

Better take this off page one and be more careful with Raw in the future.

[garybeck]

178. my bet == it's Libby.

aspens are turning.

so is libby.

miller didn't bite.

(powell is not a senior white house official)

[SillyGoose]

179. What about Andy Card? Wasn't there a story last week that said

something about friction in the WH between Card and Rove?

Anyway, I'm not sure how credible this NYDN story is, but I sure hope its true.

[Lex]

180. Rove flips ----> says it was all Cheney's idea?

Thus, the investigation takes a path right to the VP.

Rove keeps his butt and Chimpy's out of the fire by selling out Cheney?

[npincus]

181. WOW! Now that Rove's out of the picture...

perhaps this "Flipper" feels less intimidated to speak up.

Tee f*cking hee!

[RSchewe]

182. The media must love to pick the pictures to match these articles...

[MN ChimpH8R]

185. Anybody see Powell on Larry King last night?

I caught a few minutes of it and he was extremely relaxed and clearly in a good mood. I think that he is enjoying watching the Monkey House twisting in the wind. They made him look like a fool and I don't doubt that he would relish the opportunity to get a measure of revenge.

I'm not saying that he was the flipper, but I think Powell has probably told Fitz the truth about everything he knows, much to the dismay of the WH. Fitz has either Rove or Libby by the short hairs (i.e., looking at MAJOR prison time) and one ratted the other out.

[Nikki Stone 1]

188. So PNAC has picked a Judas, eh

Dump the administration but save the plan. I'd watch the next set of 2008 nominees for both parties.

[DURHAM D]

193. My bet would be Ari as part of a WH plan to distance

Bush from the VP and WHIG and wipe the stench off of Bush.

Ari would do this for his Pres and his departure from the WH press room puts Ari in a better position to setup Cheney - as in fight back against the neocons. And, as much as I hate him, Cheney is required to fall on his sword for the office of the Pres - no matter how much Cheney thinks he is the Pres he does not wear the crown or carry the scepter.

At the end of they day, we will never be allowed to know how much Bush was involved and the level of shenanigans in the WH because everyone (CIA, FBI, Congress, Joe Biden, Joe Liberman, Hillary etc.) will want to protect the office. All of those idiots think we can't handle the truth.

[underpants]

196. My oh so uninformed shot in the dark guess? Tenet

Hell you knows.

[MADem]

198. No, the source is within the WHITE HOUSE

I think it could be Rove, ratting out the Cheney team, and claiming that they were all duped; that Cheney and pals subverted his office. It could also be Mary Matalin, not wanting to do time in the can, and feeling exposure for her role which was so close to Cheney, but she is less likely--more of a corroborater than a collaborator at this point, since she is no longer IN the WH.

I think CHENEY was Judy's second source, perhaps over the phone. Plame can sound like FLAME over a phone line, without seeing those evil thin lips do a little "P" puff....

[mzmolly]

199. !

[johnfunk]

201. HEADS UP! Raw Story names JOHN "FLIPPER" HANNAH

This is just too sweet!

Cheney aide cooperating with CIA outing probe, sources say
Larisa Alexandrovna and Jason Leopold
Oct. 18, 2005 / rawstory.com

A senior aide to Vice President Dick Cheney is cooperating with special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson, sources close to the investigation say.

Individuals familiar with Fitzgerald’s case tell RAW STORY that John Hannah, a senior national security aide on loan to Vice President Dick Cheney from the offices of then-Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs, John Bolton, was named as a target of Fitzgerald’s probe. They say he was told in recent weeks that he could face imminent indictment for his role in leaking Plame-Wilson’s name to reporters unless he cooperated with the investigation.