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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:06 PM
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November 2, 2004 - Remember that 5:00 to 7:00pm feeling of DOOM?
And the little voice in the back of your head saying, "You didn't really think the BFEE, neocon regime would allow Kerry to to win, did you?"

I hear that voice again. "Come on. Do you really think anyone in the * admin is going to jail? Much less see an indictment paper? Get real, dude!" (yes, my inner voice says dude)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:10 PM
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1. This feels better than
the 2004 election farce. Patrick Fitzgerald is in charge not kenny blackwell and diebold..and all the other ways the bfee cheated in Ohio.
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jaded_at_best Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:17 PM
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7. Patrick Fitzgerald is a Republican
Republicans are scum, don't fool yourself. No one is going to jail, I doubt there will be any indictments.

He's pretending to be tough so he can get more money out of the deal. A week from now he'll be richer than his wildest dreams, yes he's being paid off.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:19 PM
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8. It was posted on DU that Fitz is
an Independent..let's hope your pessism is dead wrong.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:33 PM
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12. "Fitzgerald...is registered to vote with no party affiliation."
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20051011/a_fitzgerald11.art.htm

"When he registered to vote in New York in 1988, he chose "nonpartisan" as his party affiliation, state records show." http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/31/national/31PROB.html?ex=1129780800&en=431e7921785a0e47&ei=5070
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:10 AM
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18. He's a human being and everything about his history shows he's dedicated
If you are as cynical as you pretend, then you have given up. My advice to you is to emigrate to Zimbabwe.
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jaded_at_best Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 01:59 AM
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19. Very naive of you
to expect a John Ashcroft appointee to be honest. It's also typical of right-wingers to tell others to move out of the country when they have different opinions.

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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:11 AM
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20. You do see everything as black and white. That is the ultimate naivetée.
I suggested you emigrate because you have given up, not because you disagree, but because you have given up on the human race. You think that once a person declares themselves non-Democratic Party they become non-human "scum".

You think that anyone who disagrees with you is automatically right-wing. The world is not as black and white as you seem to believe. To view it as simplistically as you do is ultimately the most naive view of all.

Not only that, but you make completely illogical statements. You wrote Fitzgerald's "pretending to be tough so he can get more money out of the deal". You believe that he has been "pretending" all his career to be tough instead of actually being a tough prosecutor, or you believe that he has suddenly made a 180 degree turn in behavior and become completely and utterly corrupt, or you don't have a clue about his biography and career.

Give up the "jaded" jazz. It doesn't serve you well. Jaded is a state that is neither wise nor not sophisticated. Jaded is one step away from brain dead. Come alive again. The world has many problems but it is full of wonder.
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jaded_at_best Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:29 AM
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23. BRILLIANT
analysis of my persona. Not.

I guess we'll see who's naive and who's not on Monday. And honestly, I'm hoping that you are right.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:12 PM
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2. I have a feeling which says that it will happen, there are good people in
this nation as well as the criminals. I am very hopeful that justice is about to be heard from .......

:kick:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:14 PM
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3. I'm hoping this man will take care of everything...
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:14 PM
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4. For me it was when I watched - in real time - on the internet
the poll #'s being changed. My Dad was with me. I went ballistic - he didn't get it. He gets it now.

My feisty Irish roots are rooting for Fitzgerald. I believe in him.

Something's gotta give.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:16 PM
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6. meee toooo
County Claire.
i am way impressed with the lack of leaks in the investigation.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:25 PM
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11. County Claire and County Cork here.
Go Fitzgerald!!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:02 AM
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25. I'll jump in - County Tyrone here.
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 11:07 AM by sparosnare
Fitzgerald is gonna go down in history as a hero. I can feel it. :D
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:15 PM
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5. Keep the faith
Visualize Indictments and Impeachment .

See it ? I Do !
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:22 PM
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9. That's what I say.
Thanks, man.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:24 PM
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10. Thanks Patriot - Visualization ON, Cuffs and all! nt
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pisle Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:35 PM
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13. My own personal feeling of doom in NOV 2004
didn't come until the morning after.

I had been working with some folks who were on speaker phone with the father of young Barbara Bush's boyfriend around 8pm central (the father being a super right-wing Texan). He said, "Yeah, my son just got off the phone with Barbara ... I guess they're all sitting around watching the polls and all that ... Barbnara told my son that they were all pretty worried."

All this tells me is that Dubya is WAY out of the loop (which we all know). but, at the time, hearing a nearly (haha) first-hand account from someone in the same room as Laura and Dubya during the voting results proclaim that they were "worried" --- well, I thought the Kerry presidency was in the bag. I woke up to a different story.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:37 PM
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14. Welcome to DU Pisle!
:hi:
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pisle Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:46 PM
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17. Awww, Cripes ...
Thanks for the welcome. As a lot of folks have probably experienced (especially these days), I've been reading DU since 2001 --- just never felt the urge to register and contribute.

But, back to the topic. Dubya is out of ther loop --- he's the uberReagan. See, Reagan was out of the loop, but he knew it; he knew what his role was yet he could understand the underlying secret action going on beneath him. reagan put himself on a "need-to-know basis" and trusted those churning the whole pale. Dubya, as we know, is carrying the zeitgeist on ther whole Reagan-Republican executive heirarchy game (or should we just call it simply "the Zeitheist"?)

Dubya flows on a surreal plane that only Karl Rove and Karen Hughes know how to script. He's basically a big DORK. That's what's maddening. I don't giove a shit about him --- I want the real guilty folks to get what they deserve (Cheney, Rove, Libby, Rumsfeld, Bolton, Rice, and Miller).
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:05 AM
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26. Same here...
the feeling didn't come until Wed. morning. It felt like someone had died...

Welcome to DU! :hi:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:39 PM
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15. Yes, I do remember.
And I'm waiting awhile yet before I break out the champagne.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:40 PM
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16. ok, you're a sane person. i thought you were going to start gloating
I won't get excited about any of this until something real (not rumors, not what's suppose to happen) happens. I'm glad to see someone else is thinking the same way.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:24 AM
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21. No gloating here - just caution and saddness
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:00 AM
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24. I'm of a like mind too. Not counting any chickens yet. n/t
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:29 AM
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22. I'm not breaking out the champagne yet...
But this is a very different situation. I feel optimistic, but cautious.

Personally, I think Fitzgerald has gone way too far for him not to lay down some indictments.
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