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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:51 PM
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Re: the new Downing Street Memo: The Men from JINSA and CSP
...and another from the memory hole. Funny how these things keep popping up again. I knew they'd come in handy some day.

The Men From JINSA and CSP
Jason Vest

August 15, 2002 <------ !!!!!! --------

For example, the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board--chaired by JINSA/CSP adviser and former Reagan Administration Defense Department official Richard Perle, and stacked with advisers from both groups--recently made news by listening to a briefing that cast Saudi Arabia as an enemy to be brought to heel through a number of potential mechanisms, many of which mirror JINSA's recommendations, and which reflect the JINSA/CSP crowd's preoccupation with Egypt. (The final slide of the Defense Policy Board presentation proposed that "Grand Strategy for the Middle East" should concentrate on "Iraq as the tactical pivot, Saudi Arabia as the strategic pivot (and) Egypt as the prize.")

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest

Regarding this article:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article319993.ece

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George Bush told the Prime Minister two months before the invasion of Iraq that Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran and North Korea may also be dealt with over weapons of mass destruction, a top secret Downing Street memo shows.

The US President told Tony Blair, in a secret telephone conversation in January 2003 that he "wanted to go beyond Iraq".

....ahhh, the memory hole...
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:01 AM
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1. I always wondered, and asked many times
How does this administration reconcile its ties to BOTH Israel AND Saudi Arabia?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:06 AM
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2. And "Egypt as the prize"???
How is Egypt anything like a prize? And if so, why is there not "regime change" in Egypt? It's hardly a paragon of democracy.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 02:10 AM
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4. Didn't Al Qaeda originate in Egypt?
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 02:12 AM by Carolab
http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/misc/janes010928_1_n.shtml

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By the 1990s, al-Zawahari had emerged as the leader of the military wing of the Egyptian Gihad group, known as the Vanguards of Conquest. In the mid-1990s, he returned to Afghanistan to join forces with Bin Laden: a move that caused a rift in his Gihad group.

Diaa Rashwan, a senior researcher of Islamic militant groups at Egypt's al-Ahram centre for strategic studies, says al-Zawahari and Bin Laden have become very close since the announcement in 1998 of the formation of the World Islamic Front for Jihad against Jews and Crusaders. Other key members of the front are Egyptians Mustafa Hamza, 43, and Rifie Ahmed Taha, 47, aa well as Mohammed Islambouli, 46, the brother of Khaled Islambouli, Sadat's assassin. Egyptian intelligence officials say Mohammed Islambouli holds two Egyptian passports, a Qatari passport and an Algerian passport in the name Mahmoud Youssef.

"Ayman al-Zawahari from the beginning was as all the other ordinary Islamists," said Rashwan. "He had his own project to establish an Islamic state here in Egypt, but over the last three years, he has gone closer to the Osama bin Laden theory. It means to fight the enemies of Islam, the Americans and Israelis, but not to build an Islamic state."

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 02:15 AM
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5. Al Qaeda originated in Langley VA
When the CIA got the bright idea of putting an old Bush family friend in charge of the Afghan "Mujahadeen" to distract the Russians.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 02:21 AM
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6. But Abdullah says SA will "crush" them.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:47 PM
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7. Watch The Power of Nightmares for more on Egypt's role. n/t
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:11 AM
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3. At all cost, including nukes..considering Bolton executing his part of the
plan, by leaving out proliferation issues from the UN talks they are ready. Meanwhile, Carlyle is profiteering 'till they choke on the loot of taxpayers dollars, I hope they have use for it when half of the planet is gone and the rest is unusable...
Funny, how some people still believe this country is run by "good folks".
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