How odd, that of all the numerous evil deeds done by BushCo, Plamegate

[begin_within]

...was the one that finally did them in... or will it? Just like Watergate started out as a break-in at an office, and ended up toppling a presidency... surrounded by tne mega-evils and widespread death and destruction brought on by - and directly attributable to - the Bush administration, the leak of one person's name is what actually brought the whole thing crashing down... seems a little ironic

[petgoat]

1. They got Al Capone for income tax evasion n/t

[ThoughtCriminal]

2. It is part of a larger crime

The Iraq deceptions thrown at the American public is at the heart of this scandal. The Rovian necessity to destroy anyone who stood up to those lies may be appropriately, what finally destroys them.

[H2O Man]

3. Perhaps it's not

just what you do, but who you do it to. The administration, though they pretend they were unaware of who Wilson was, actually knew he was the fellow who stood up to Saddam at the beginning of the Gulf War. Tell me Dick Cheney wouldn't remember him! Anyhow, they recognized he was sticking up for the CIA folks in 2003, and they knew he presented a problem. So they tried to show others how powerful they were, that they could bust him.

Bad move.

I've taught my boys not to fight, unless you absolutely have to. And if there are a few people pressing you, disable the leader first, and fast. Now, that's what Cheney and Libby were trying to do. Take out the lead guy. But there is another rule that applies: some people, you just don't fuck with. You just don't. Wilson is one of them guys. The administration done made a mistake, and now they got to pay their dues.

[Canuckistanian]

5. You can bet the CIA is not neutral on this, either

With all the so-called "intelligence failures" and finger-pointing there just might be some resentment at The Firm.

[babylonsister]

6. H2O Man, do you think

Plame is involved because of the work she was doing with Brewster and Jennings? Do you think this is going to blow the roof off of this admin for their ill-thought out reasons for going to war?

[H2O Man]

7. That's a good question.

Actually, two good questions. About a year and a half ago, I wrote that Cheney was behind the scandal, even though others did the dirty work. I said that I believed there was a need to derail an investigation that Plame was close to. And I said a number of other things, many of which are being shown to be fairly accurate in the past two months.

The investigation already has shown that this administration was willing to attack Wilson to protect the lies that took us to war. More, they would go after the man's wife. Keep in mind that John Dean has said even Nixon never sunk that low.

When the indictments are returned, another phase of the battle begins. The administraion will fight to protect their lies, and to stay in power. And that conflict will show this country that we have a group of people who are more corrupt than Nixon's group were. It will be a struggle.

[babylonsister]

8. I hope Fitz goes far enough to bring PNAC and the DSM

into this discussion.
Have you ever found any ties to anyone who died or was outed as a result of knowing Plame or being involved with Brewster Jennings? I read a thread on DU recently regarding this, but nothing to back it up.
Thanks in advance, but I know you've been involved in the meat of what's been going on, and respect your insight.

[chat_noir]

11. H2O man, what do you think of this Venezuela's Electronic News claim?

Iranian fraudster and neocon Pentagon contact Manucher Ghorbanifar, Saudi billionaire Adnan Khashoggi and members of the Bin Laden family are reportedly linked to Geneva-based Potomac Capital ... a front company created by George H. W. Bush when he was CIA Director in 1976.

Interestingly, it was George W. Bush, who, in November 2001, cited Al Taqwa as part of Al Qaeda's money-laundering activities.
However, Bush's neocon allies at The Washington Times and World Net Daily quickly altered course and drew attention away from Al Taqwa's Saudi and Kuwaiti investors and began to erroneously link Al Taqwa to Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Further criminal investigations of Al Taqwa's principals were also quickly dropped.

Potomac Capital appeared on the radar screen of Federal investigators during the Iran-Contra investigation conducted in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The Al Taqwa connection to weapons of mass destruction proliferation, Bin Laden, and George H. W. Bush and his business associates stands as another reason the George W. Bush administration leaked the CIA's Brewster Jennings & Associates counter-WMD network. The CIA counter-proliferation team was getting uncomfortably close to tying members of the Bush family and their business associates to the same financial networks that fund Osama Bin Laden and his "Al Qaeda" network. (emphasis mine)

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=46388

[Tatiana]

9. Wilson didn't mention the name Rove and the phrase "frog-marched"

for no reason. I took him very seriously then and we're seeing the results of his determination play out this very moment.

[casual hex]

4. The time is now

If there is any justice in this world, now is the time for the Gods to summon it and project it upon Cheney, Libby, Rove and the rest.

Let Justice visit its wrath upon them and let them feel the heat of their own hideous mis-deeds, turned around and muliplied.

/end pseudo-biblical mode.

[newyawker99]

10. Hi casual hex!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast: