Why is it that we conspiracy theorist's are pretty much always right?

[trumad]

9/11---WMD--Plame---

Oh sure we have a few misses.... but all in all we're more right than those who call us conspiracy theorist.

I'm beginning to think being called a conspiracy theorist is a badge of honor. It's better than being an aardvark.

[Mist]

1. Being a conspiracy theorist is also better than being

a coincidence theorist! Being a coincidence theorist really takes determination to ignore so much!

[tx_dem41]

2. Ahem....

9/11?

WMD and Plame are NOT CTs.

[beam me up scottie]

8. There's conspiracy theories

and then there's paranoid conspiracy theories...

[tx_dem41]

9. Hey, BMUS!

Long time, no talk. :hi:

[beam me up scottie]

12. You know what it's like being a

skeptic planted by the government to debunk genius conspiracy theories.

[tx_dem41]

14. Heck yes.

In fact, you're my Agent 99! :)

[beam me up scottie]

15. psssssst!

Can you keep a secret ?

http://www.geocities.com/beaver_militia/satellite.html

[willing dwarf]

3. American Hegemony

I finally threw my doubts about American hegemony away during the Central America wars. Stories that were ridiculed by the powers in DC were overwhelmingly true. Every time you'd say "America would never do that" sure enough you'd learn that they had done that. Finally Iran Contra proved that they'd do anything!

And then, when the Freedom of Information Act helped bring so much dirty dealings to light ( one little one was how John Lennon had been harrassed by the FBI into leaving the country thanks to his anti-Nixon voter registration drive at concerts)...well the preponderance of the evidence made it a no-brainer-- there's a small group of people who are manipulating the wealth and power of this country to their sole benefit. They are the very rich, the 2% that Bush wants to insure and further enrich.

None of this is done for our protection, for sure!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

4. Yes, the more I learn, the more willing I am to believe conspiracy

theories. There's usually a grain of truth in them, even if I can't always buy the whole loaf.

[whatever4]

5. I feel the same way

Please forgive me if I ramble, I don't know how contructively. I think, what it is, is that some folks, most folks don't like to be laughed at, don't like to disagree, and don't like to say mean things. In short, most people are "normal". And, it wouldn't work any other way, obviously, we'd better like each other somewhat.

So, it's the people not quite as hinged to opinion, and so, not that we're any brighter or any better, but maybe just more suited to saying the more unpopular things. As such, we're always on the leading edge of saying the truth, when the truth is an obvious but unpleasant thing.

And anymore, the wild-eyed conspiracy theorists have all gravitated to the very real and very obvious conspiracies going on all around us. I know, and I'm sure you know, the signs have been there for years now. Since before 911.

So, the more wild-eyed one's don't have to make up a dang thing. They don't have to reach for straws, they don't have to rely on just their imaginations. It's so much more easy, and fun (for those that find glee in all this horror) to play with the REAL conspiracies. Isn't it? Far more exciting.

yeah, we're all here, from the most extreme end of the tinfoil hat spectrum to the more circumspect new arrivals. We all wind up here.

We're right because we're a combinations of those who look for this stuff and those that feared this stuff, and are the leading edge of those who just don't have quite as much problem saying so.

Even if it sounds crazy. Doesn't matter, if it's true.

Weather making machines? Sure, it's still sci fic. But, have I ever heard of it, have you, have they? And if they could do that, would they? I have no idea. But I don't discount the possibility on it's face. These many reasonable folks don't think anyone would do it. But us weirdos, those of us that think of ourselves that way, have seen our share of the crazy denial and ugly things people will do. I think, my very humble opinion, is that we've seen more than our share of the ugly underbelly of what is tradition, contemporary thought and non-thought, prevailing opinions. Prevailing opinions that were flat out wrong about Iraq. We know how reluctant SO many people were to change their minds.

I think Katrina woke many people up, because even if the US government had nothing to do with the event or the levees, they had everything to do with the suffering later. Now everyone recognizes how bad the situation is, and their minds are opening up to the possibilities to see that corruption and lies might have many familiar faces.

We just never trusted them all much in the first place, I guess, and the conspiracy people were always watching out for it. Can't fault them, can't fault us, for finding it. And sounding nuts. Hardly our fault it sounds nuts. We didn't make the rules.

[WilliamPitt]

6. Why do you lump WMD and the Plame matter into a 'conspiracy' label?

In essence, they are the same issue. They are also not theories.

[tx_dem41]

7. It puts their "We were right" average above the Mendoza line. n/t

[trumad]

18. True...very true,,,

How ya been Will? Can you believe the AFC east?

[RaleighNCDUer]

10. Because 'theory' does not equate with 'rumor' or 'idea'.

A theory is developed from verifiable evidence. When evidence is presented that supports a conspiracy, you have a conspiracy theory. By definition, they would almost always be right.

There are also 'conspiracy nuts'. These are those who present an idea of a conspiracy without supporting evidence. They are almost always wrong.

Election fraud is a conspiracy theory. There is vast statistical evidence that supports it, and such fraud could only be done by a conspiracy.

9/11 has much less evidence, but there is enough to warrant investigation. Too many coincidences, though I would be the last to suggest that there is no such thing as coincidence. As far as I'm concerned, 9/11 remains as a conspriacy hypothesis.

[daninthemoon]

11. I call myself a conspiracy realist.

[justabob]

13. Conspiracy theories

Why is it that if someone just has a few questions about an 'official' explanation they are automatically lumped into this broad category of theorists? Why is it that if you don't buy the official line and maybe want to learn more or have a point clarified you are presumed to have an agenda?

Really those are rhetorical questions. I realize that questions are not ok with the powers that be and many others... we must believe- regardless of logic. I am tired however, of the label "conspiracy theory" and everything it means in the tainted language of today.

[earth mom]

16. All truth passes through 3 stages..

ALL TRUTH PASSES THROUGH 3 STAGES:

1st IT IS RIDICULED
2nd IT IS VIOLENTLY OPPOSED
3rd IT IS ACCEPTED AS BEING SELF EVIDENT

-Schopenhauer


:tinfoilhat:

[WI_DEM]

17. I dont' think WMD or Plame has anything to do with conspiracy theories?

There has been doubt about WMD since the beginning and Plame, well we see what is happening.

[drb]

19. "No matter how cynical you become, it's never...

...enough to keep up!" - Lily Tomlin

[bloom]

20. It depends on the theorist.

Some are better than others.

I think there are some pretty good ones around here.