Does Andrew card have any loyalty to Cheney?

[AlCzervik]

i don't think so, i don't think he likes Rove. I think he talked.

[mattclearing]

1. No one has any loyalty to anyone in that house.

They are all out for themselves.

[AlCzervik]

2. i think he's loyal to the Bush family.

[SillyGoose]

3. There was a story around here last week that, if I'm remembering

correctly, said something about friction between Card and Rove. It wouldn't surprise me if he spilled some beans.

[AlCzervik]

4. yes, in the NYT or the WAPO they had a story today about Card

i think if thinks that someone is hurting his master he would start talking.

[mattclearing]

5. Card has friction with everyone...Paul O'Neill said Bush yelled at

him to get cheeseburgers at a meeting. The chief of staff!!!

I'm trying to imagine President Bartlet yelling at Leo to get some fucking cheeseburgers. It's truly unbelievable.

Card is a nobody there.

[napi21]

6. Yep, I remember reading that. WH divided into 2 camps.

Shrub, Rove & Card v/s Cheney, Libby.

[H2O Man]

7. Each participant

has an attorney who has said, "Fitzgerald is not a person to fool around with.Take care of yourself now." Andrew Card's attorney has certainly told him this.

[Panda1]

8. "Bush looked impatiently at Card, hard-eyed. "

..."think you're up to getting us some cheeseburgers?"

http://billmon.org/archives/002249.html
October 11, 2005
House of Card

If Howard Fineman is right, and Andrew Card really is making a move to topple Karl Rove, then this country could be in a heap of trouble. Rove, at least, is smart, even if it is a feral, devious brand of intelligence. Card, on the other hand, is as dense as a truck load of gravel -- a half-full truck load of gravel.
....
Card's long stint as the Shrub's master of ceremonies hasn't exactly raised his profile. In the only Bush II kiss-and-tell memoir to date (Ron Suskind's as-told-to account of former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill's stormy tenure, The Price of Loyalty) Card is mentioned frequently, but usually only in passing. He's in all the meetings, but rarely says anything worth repeating. The most revealing passage in the book shows Shrub treating him like a waiter -- and a rathery dim-witted one at that:

"Go get me Andy Card," Bush said to one of the Secret Service agents. Card, the designee as chief of staff, entered from an adjoining room . . . Bush looked impatiently at Card, hard-eyed. "You're the chief of staff. You think you're up to getting us some cheeseburgers?"

Card nodded. No one laughed. He all but raced out of the room.

The picture that emerges is of someone who has access, who is in the inner circle (and just about the only non-Texan in it) but who has virtually no influence, on either policy or politics.
...

[Catherine Vincent]

9. Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

CSPAN provided three full hours on their Washington Journal program last friday on Andrew Card. Hmm...

[AlCzervik]

10. maybe, we don't hear a lot about him you know and he seems really

loyal, loyal to a fault. I think Card really liked 41 and there is some weird "Watch my boy Andy". I could be totally off base here but i have a get feeling about him.