How far will Fitzgerald go? What if some Democrats get indicted too?

[NNN0LHI]

Never thought of that did ya? I did. This guy Fitzgerald appears to be widening his probe. I bet there are some Dem's sweating right now if this investigation is going into all the people involved in propagating the phony reasons for starting a war. Because I don't think it was all Republicans doing that. How far will Fitzgerald go? That is the real question right now.

Don

[NoBushSpokenHere]

1. I hope he nails everyone that is involved in this -- REGARDLESS! n/t

[moc]

9. Ditto. May they all rot in hell for the blood on their hands.

:mad:

[indepat]

58. Ditto

[mod mom]

39. EXACTLY. We need to rid our government of corruption regardless of party!

[malmapus]

48. Agree, we need to wipe this slate and clean it as best as we can

as a country. Republican or Democratic, doesn't matter. If they had a part in it, I hope they go down.

[movonne]

56. Ditto again

[Seansky]

72. ME TOO, Everyone that had something to do with so many dying must

take responsibility...regardless

[Coexist]

2. If they are guilty, then they get indicted.

Period. Dem or Republican - no one likes a dirty politician.

[MuseRider]

11. I'm with you.

Doesn't matter. We need to clean the entire house, whoever is involved should go down. You have to be honest here.

[HereSince1628]

12. Well, if there is reason to believe there is credible evidence

of their committment of a crime they get indicted.

You needn't be guilty to get indicted.

[tk2kewl]

23. people are getting a little carried away

:silly:

[Coexist]

38. correction then... if they are dirty then they should get indicted

however, there doesn't seem to be any reason for a Dem to go down, as the leak came from within the bowels of the administration - not a Dem-friendly place.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. I want the truth

if some Dems have been doing things that are illegal, I want them indicted as well. This isn't politics-this is an investigation into who breached national security by outing a CIA agent.

[tatertop]

24. Here's hoping they nail Lieberman for something

He belongs behind bars sure as any Republican

[Democrat 4 Ever]

37. Amen. A dirty politician is a dirty politician is a dirty politician.

We have our work cut out for us cleaning up this hugh11!11 mess compliments of Chimpy and his cohorts. If some dirty Dems are caught in the net, too bad, so sad, all the crooks, liars and thieves need to go directly to jail, do not collect $200 and leave the rest of us the hell alone. We need to clean our house of all morally and ethically challenged people NOW.

Besides - that is one major difference between a Dem and repug - we honestly believe in good government and the concept is completely foreign to today's GOP. The repugs will condone any behavior as long as they don't get caught and can retain power - ex. Bush, Cheney, Rove, Libby, Powell, Miller, Novak, Matalin, DeLay, Frist, the list is endless.

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. Fine

Let the chips fall where they may.

It's time to clean house.

[hang a left]

28. Hell ya!

I say we clean them all out and start over.

[Dawgs]

5. Huh?

:eyes:

[verse18]

6. I say

take them all down, no matter their political party. If Dems are part of the "Culture of Corruption" they need to be punished.

[Der Blaue Engel]

7. I'd be surprised, but I'd want them indicted

if they were involved in treason.

Sort of a difference between Repubs and Dems, I think...we believe in actual justice.

[Loonman]

8. Let the chips fall where they may

Dirty tricks by either party is unacceptable.

[SteppingRazor]

10. Since this probe has little or nothing to do with the lies...

that got us into the war, I doubt they're sweating too much. It's about outing a CIA agent, remember?

In any case, in the unlikely event that there were Democrats involved in the scandal -- unlikely because this spectacularly partisan White House wouldn't involve them in any case -- then I say they should go down too.

[Hobarticus]

13. Do you know something we don't?

His probe is regarding the leak of Plame's name, not of the phony run-up altogether. Are Dems involved, or just speculating?

[NNN0LHI]

30. This article suggests it has gone beyond the leak of Plames name

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/31df4bc4-3f73-11da-932f-00000e2511c8.html

Prosecutor widening CIA leak probe
By Caroline Daniel and Edward Alden in Washington
Published: October 18 2005 03:00 | Last updated: October 18 2005 03:00

Evidence is building that the probe conducted by Patrick Fitzgerald, special prosecutor, has extended beyond the leaking of a covert CIA agent's name to include questioning about the administration's handling of pre-Iraq war intelligence.

According to the Democratic National Committee, a majority of the nine members of the White House Iraq Group have been questioned by Mr Fitzgerald. The team, which included senior national security officials, was created in August 2002 to "educate the public" about the risk posed by weapons of mass destruction on Iraq.

Mr Fitzgerald, who has been applauded for conducting a leak-free investigation, has said little publicly about his 22-month investigation, other than that it is about the "potential retaliation against a whistleblower", Joseph Wilson.

[BlueIris]

76. See, this is what's intriguing me at this point.

Is it even remotely possibly Fitzgerald got anyone with the actual, hardcore, up-before-the-gallows treason charge?

[DoYouEverWonder]

42. No, so far no Dems have been implicated

One of the benefits of Bush keeping such a tight knit group of only the loyalest Repugs around him.

[mojavekid]

14. IF...and if that's the case,

Let him clean house!

[auburngrad82]

15. If they did the crime, they should do the time. nt

[ClassWarrior]

16. If they're guilty, he should go for it.

That'd present us with a golden opportunity to cut the culprits loose and say, "Look - we don't tolerate a culture of corruption in our Party."

NGU.

[eallen]

17. If Democrats are involved & guilty, nail them to the wall with the rest.

I'm non-partisan on the issue of corruption in government.

:hippie:

[Mandate My Ass]

18. Whoever is involved in this is traitorous scum, whether they have

a (D) or an (R) after their name is irrelevant.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

[Canuckistanian]

19. That would be fine...

The guilty must pay, regardless of party line.

Although, as an additional plus, it would show that Fitz is not a partisan witch-hunter like Starr.

[Malikshah]

20. Wow...geez I never thought of that. That changes everything....

NOT.

Sorry, but it doesn't matter what party one is affiliated with

Do the crime, do the time.

*removes asbestos suit as he leave thread*

[mmonk]

21. I want everyone connected with the neocon network

indicted. Franklin has already been sunk. Now Hannah, Libby and Cheney are in the cross hairs whereby others should follow. They, however, seem to have a way of slithering away.

[Beetwasher]

22. I Doubt Any Dems Were In On The Conspiracy

I sure haven't heard of any. No Dems in WHIG or OSP.

Do you mean the Dems in congress who authorised the Iraq resolution? Don't see how they would be implicated in orchestrating or propogating anything.

If evidence points to a Dem doing something illegal, then I say, whatever. Get rid of them too, they get what they deserve, but I doubt the admin. would ever trust any Dem to be involved in their machinations.

[Finder]

25. Doubtful any dems involved...

the focus seems to be on a small group. I expect Robert Josephs to end up key at this point.

[cry baby]

26. If dems played a part in lying us into war, then I say...

"buh-bye and feck you"!

[nickinSTL]

27. If they were involved, they should be indicted

regardless of party.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. Let the chips fall where they may.

[FreedomAngel82]

31. He'll go according to the law

Fitzgerald doesn't care about who's who. And neither should you. If a democrat was involved in the leaking of Plame's name than they should get indicted too. NOBODY is above the law. Not one person.

[maximovich]

32. I Want Everyone Involved to Pay

Regardless of political party affiliation.

[Stephanie]

33. WHAT Democrats?

That's just baseless. Do you have any Democrats in mind? Were there Democrats in the WHIG? What about the OSP? The admin? What are you talking about?

[GliderGuider]

34. That would sure take the wind out of the Freepers' sails, wouldn't it?

They wouldn't be able to spin it as a partisan witch-hunt. The only non-administration figure I'm expecting to be indicted, though, is Miller.

[madinmaryland]

35. Considering that there have been no Dem's in the WH

since Bill Clinton left office, there are probably no Dems involved in this. Also, with the secrecy involved in this WH, I would be surprised.

[ProfessorGAC]

36. A Crook Is A Crook

The letter after their name is meaningless to me. If they broke the law, make 'em pay.
The Professor

[madmom]

40. so? if dems are involved they should go also!..n/t

[Acryliccalico]

41. If they helped dig * hole then they should get

buried with the rest of the DIRT. :kick:

[Fleshdancer]

43. If Democrats are involved, then they need to be punished as well

I'm not a fan of supporting corruption just because there's a (D) next to someone's name. My love for my country comes WAY before my Party and if a Democrat had anything to do with treason, then s/he should rot in prison with Republicans.

[crispini]

44. My desire to see justice done is non-partisan. nt

[datadiva]

45. If you do the crime

You should do the time, republican, democrat, whatever. We need good honest people running this country, not a bunch of crooks.

[Pab Sungenis]

46. Good.

Just because you're a Democrat doesn't mean you're not corrupt. Any Democrats involved in this one should go to jail just like the Republicans.

47. let chips fall. our elected officials

and media should be the ones saving us from the Neocons, not a single prosecutor!!

[Walt Starr]

49. there are very few Democrats who would possibly be open to indictment

in this specific probe.

The only one I can think of is Robert Novak, and I'm pretty certain he flipped on day 1.

[ticapnews]

50. If someone betrayed the country, I'll bring the rope.

Someone else will need to supply the tree. Or yardarm. I'm not picky.

And I don't care what party or ideology they represent - treason knows no party.

[AntiCoup2K4]

51. It's too bad he can't indict the entire fucking DLC

We would all be better off if he did.

[Snarf]

52. Hang um high

Lie like a Republican fry like a Republican.

[newyawker99]

77. Hi Snarf!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[deutsey]

53. Bring the motherfuckers down

[Tamyrlin79]

54. I agree on the first question, but not on the second.

"How far will Fitzgerald go?" -- This question should be posed in reference to how HIGH Fitzgerald will go in this administration with any charges filed.

"What if some Democrats...?" -- Yeah, well, what if they do? They'd necessarily be low-level Dems. This administration doesn't tolerate Outsiders very well. Everyone is expected to toe the party line and be loyal to the admin. Hell, these people don't pay any attention to lobbyists unless they, too, are Republicans. You think they will have a possible Dem in their number who might betray them and their plans??? You will not likely find any Dems involved with this.

So, I think your second question is somewhat irrational... Unless you can find some way a Dem might be connected, the only Dem I know of who is involved with this in any way at all is Joe Wilson. And do you honestly believe for one second that he outed his own wife??? thus, I say, irrational.

[nini]

55. why should he not indict ANYONE involved in this?

If a dem did something wrong they need to face the music. I will have no party alliance over something like this.

[ozymandius]

No protection for ANYONE involved.

No party affiliation should shelter anyone of culpability. Period.

[acmavm]

57. Why would it matter? Corrupt is corrupt. Let the chips fall...

.

[Carni]

59. If that is the case then more power to him!

Anyone involved in this scam should be given the boot!

[Javaman]

60. Clean house, get rid of all the crooks, repukes, dems, inds, all of them!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

61. I am not an enabler, and if Dems are involved, they should be prosecuted

as well.

[in_cog_ni_to]

62. It's time to clean house. If Dems get indicted, they get indicted.

If they're corrupt, they SHOULD BE INDICTED. It's the only way we'll ever get our country back. Get rid of them all!

[bowens43]

63. Nail their asses to the wall.

Anyone who knowingly used false information to try to justify the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq should be prosecuted.

[Bullwinkle925]

64. Those who are practicing illegalities should be prosecuted. Let

the chips fall where they may.

[dmr]

65. If there is a Dem in this, then they aren't a real Dem, imho

A real Dem wouldn't place power, money, ego and exclusivity above their country.

Anyone who would sell our country out can go to hell right after they serve their jail time.

[mountebank]

66. Can you come up with one Dem that stands a reasonable chance

of being indicted? I can't think of one. Of course there were the Dem cheerleaders in the Senate, House, and media. People like Kenneth Pollack of the Brookings Inst. But oh wait, he's already been indicted for passing gov't secrets to Israel. I wouldn't mind seeing Tom Friedman frog-marched to the Daily News, I guess.

[Pithy Cherub]

67. Indict based on evidence and if a Dem is that stupid

let them pay the cost for pretending to be the boss!

[Occulus]

68. Couldn't care less about party on this issue.

This is simply too damaging for politics to enter into it in any way. All Americans- of every political stripe- should be outraged and demanding answers about this.

The fact that BJ was investigating WMDs in the ME is, to my mind, no coincidence at all. They found something that wasn't supposed to be found, is my guess.

Something planted?

Hmmmm.

[hippiegranny]

69. I really don't care

Any Dems involved in this shit deserve what they get. Lie with dogs, end up with fleas.

[cassiepriam]

70. Do his job, let the chips fall where they may.

Any dirty dems need to go too.

[WilliamPitt]

71. Let justice be done though the heavens fall.

[NNN0LHI]

73. Guy on the White House Iraq Group is 1 of the most powerful lobbyists in DC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Iraq_Group

The members of the White House Iraq Group are: <7>

Karl Rove
Karen Hughes
Mary Matalin
Andrew Card
James R. Wilkinson
Nicholas E. Calio
Condoleezza Rice
Stephen Hadley
I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_E._Calio

Nicholas E. Calio is Citigroup’s Senior Vice-President for Global Government Affairs. He is responsible for government relations for Citigroup and all of its subsidiaries. snip

He worked as President George H. W. Bush's Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs. In this role, he worked with members of Congress to create legislation. He also held the same position under George W. Bush.

Calio was one of the founders of the lobbying firm Calio & O'Brien in 1993, where he was a partner. In 1998, he was named on of the ten most powerful lobbyists in Washington. Prior to this, he had served as the Vice-President of The Duberstein Group and the Senior Vice-President of the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors.

In 2002, Calio was a member of the White House Iraq Group.

Who thinks he only lobbied Republicans in Congress?

[helderheid]

74. If Dems were involved too, they also deserve to get nailed!

[Ksec]

75. I hope he does indict anyone who is involved, regardless

Clean house. We dont want no steenking criminals in our party . Thats where we differ from them.

[AZBlue]

78. Doesn't matter if they are D, R or I

If they are involved, they should be indicted. Period.

[BreweryYardRat]

79. Guilty=

needs to pay, and I couldn't give a damn about the party.

[flyarm]

80. i do not care about the parties right now..i want truth..truth a thing

that has been missing in this country for 5 years...i don't care who the hell he gets...as long as he gets everyone involved in the destruction of our national security! and those who took our country to war based on lies and has now been repsonsible for the deaths and wounding of our soldiers and innocent iraqi's!
i want them to get the max available by law..i want them held to the same standard as aldrich ames, robert hansen, and the walkers..this is just that serious! and should be regarded that seriously!
look the rosenbergs were given the death penalty for no less..and they were convicted not in war time..and they did not take us to war on lies!

i want who is responsible exposed and on a silver platter for all the world to throw stones at!!
then i want an apology from every american who called themselves patriots when those of us who did our homework knew this entire war was nothing but filthy lies and they had the nerve to call us traitors!~!!..i want them to beg at my feet for forgiveness for what they have ignorantly done to my nation!

i want that apology on a siver freaking platter..then, and only when i have thought long and hard about it will i ..maybe accept their apology!!

but they will owe that apology first to those who served this nation based on lies and then they will owe the apology to those families who lost their children in this lie of a war..then they owe an apology to my children for the debt and the disgrace our nation has been put under because of these lying fuckers!

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