Cheney resignation rumors fly! (Du'ers start your engines)

[Generator]

Keep the aspirin and enhalers close. Everytime I check LBN I about lose it.

So:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/051018/18whwatch.htm

US NEWS and freaking report.
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Sparked by today's Washington Post story that suggests Vice President Cheney's office is involved in the Plame-CIA spy link investigation, government officials and advisers passed around rumors that the vice president might step aside and that President Bush would elevate Secretary of State Rice.

"It's certainly an interesting but I still think highly doubtful scenario," said a Bush insider. "And if that should happen," added the official, "there will undoubtedly be those who believe the whole thing was orchestrated – another brilliant Machiavellian move by the VP."

Said another Bush associate of the rumor, "Yes. This is not good." The rumor spread so fast that some Republicans by late morning were already drawing up reasons why Rice couldn't get the job or run for president in 2008.

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Slimy scumsuckers. YEAH they are geniuses. TREASON is their great political move, that and bullshit wars.

Also click the link to SEE the picture of Evil Smirk they used.

[Ishoutandscream2]

1. shit, taking deep breaths

Please God, make this happen.

[Carni]

3. Jesus--I am not sure Rice would be a friggin improvement

It's kind of like having to make a choice between having leprosy or smallpox :(

[Ishoutandscream2]

9. Yes, I know, but just the idea of a RESIGNATION

gets me going. I'm simply taking it one step at a time. We'll deal with Condi and the rest later.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

22. Gets me all PSYCHED-UP...

He he he.

[ClassWarrior]

34. Yup. Once the dominoes start falling...

NGU.

[geniph]

76. I tell you one way Condimelda would be an improvement...

the racists among the Republicans and the misogynists would no longer be able to hide behind pious BS. They'd have to out themselves for the repulsive scum they truly are - because the thought of an African-American, or a woman, a heartbeat away - let alone an African-American woman - would about make them soil themselves.

[tuvor]

2. Okay, that's IT.

I'm not believing anything unless it's confirmed.

News about rumours is not news.

This is getting ridiculous.

[Generator]

13. You are correct

But it's all we have, pathetic crumbs. I think the Hannah thing is the real deal.

[merh]

4. I hate to admit it, but I don't put anything past these evil, greedy

bastards. He will resign, GWB will pardon him, he will still earn his millions from Haliburton and Rice and her new shoes will be at the VP residency soon.

:argh: I hate these bastards! :grr:

[hang a left]

8. Not by the time the Wilson's are finished with him.

I wonder how much they can get out of him. Hopefully his last dime.

[merh]

18. I'm glad you reminded me of their lawsuit.

I have hope that Mr. Potter will be bankrupted and unable to relieve his burdens thanks to the new laws the repukes passed.

:hi:

[garybeck]

36. what lawsuit?

[warrens]

37. The Wilsons plan a civil suit over the loss of her career

[merh]

43. Wilson is supposed to be filing a civil lawsuit

I will try to find the link on it for you.

[longship]

5. I'm with tuvor

This is very unlikely.

I don't believe it. These guys don't admit guilt and resignation would be portrayed *only* as tacit admission.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

14. Also agree that it's unlikely, but...

They have been setting Cheney up for a "health reasons" resignation, IMO. He had that surgery, and at any time they could say he's just not healthy enough to continue.

But I'm also in the camp of people who think it would be no improvement at all. Much as I despise evil Cheney, he's already done his damage and him leaving won't fix anything. Rice as VP would be disgusting.

I'm come to the conclusion that only the complete demise of all of these evil treasonous bastards will satisfy me.

[caledesi]

54. And remember, the dick, Cheney just bought a new house. nt

[Virginian]

67. Nixon resigned for "health" reasons.

He claimed Phlebitis was his reason for resigning.

[Child_Of_Isis]

6. "Isn't she pro-choice?"

Does everything center around women's uterus's in this crowd?

[Debau2005]

7. I think

I am going to need to carry around a paper bag over the next few days. I don't want to be caught off-guard if I start hyperventilating!

[LynneSin]

10. Great move by the Bush Regime....

...think about it - if Cheney does resign the administration is going to pick the person they want to be the designated choice to run for president in 2008. What better way to improve your chances than to step in as Vice President just a few years before the next election.

[helderheid]

15. agreed. This would be BAD for the Dems and brilliant for them.

Unless this whole scandal taints all republicans.

[stop the bleeding]

19. Gotta love that COWBELL!

:headbang::yourock:

[ProfessorGAC]

20. Yeah, That Worked So Well For Gerald Ford

The Professor

[LynneSin]

39. Gerald Ford was a dumbass and pardoned Nixon

Plus we're not making Condi the President - just putting her in the VP position so she's positioned to run in 2008. Cheney was never meant to run for president - he was just suppose to pull the puppet strings. He doesn't really need to be VP to do that.

I'm thinking that it gets any hotter around Dick Cheney he's going to retire for 'health reasons'. I just hope & pray that Fitzgerald continues the investigation!

[yankeedem]

53. Pukes won't vote for a black person

let alone a woman for president. Condimelda would be the lamest of lame ducks.

[nvliberal]

73. That's nonsense. Do you think they are going to vote Democratic?

Republicans do NOT sit out elections, and they won't if Condi is on the ticket.

[Sparkman]

74. Southern Dems-turned-Repub during 60's CIVIL RIGHTS ERA hate blacks

and will definitely vote racially acceptable candidates across party lines. imo

[Rowdyboy]

24. Rove's been at it again! They come out on top with a black woman vp

ready to hit the campaign trail virtually unopposed in 2008 and the Democrats lose another close one. This smells just like Rove's handiwork!

[LondonReign2]

45. Oh please, you really think the rethugs would vote for a black woman???

And a pro-choice, elistist, edumacated black woman at that? Liberace has about as much chance of being the Rethug 2008 nominee. And yes, I know he is dead.

[Rowdyboy]

57. In order to hold onto the White House and power? Yes, with the right

vice-president to tell her what to do. If not Rice, then Guiliani or Pataki-an electable face that they can manipulate into a far-right agenda.

[Nightjock]

59. Calm down Rowdy

Can you picture the current racist-conservative republicans voting for a black-pro choice WOMAN and Guliani-- a pro choice JEW?

They will all stay home in November or move out of the country!

[MN ChimpH8R]

61. Rudy's Italian, I believe, not Jewish

But he's pro-choice and pro-gay rights.

[Rowdyboy]

75. A couple of points to consider....

1) Mitt Romney went from pro-choice to anti-abortion overnight and no one blinked an eye. He appears to have been welcomed to the right wing with open arms. Either Guiliani or Rice could easily move far enough to the right on issues to be confirmed by the senate. Once sitting as vice president, he or she would have two years to "modulate" their views and build a network of party support. Both are media darlings and the 2008 Republican nomination would be a cakewalk for either.

2) Re: Rice.....Contrary to popular opinion, not all conservative Republicans are racists. With the appropriate vice president, I believe conservatives would be receptive to Rice-in order to retain power. Certainly, she would lose many southern conservative Repubs, but she would make up for that easily with crossover Democratic black voters. Rice would be a novelty, and the media adores novelties. She would be adored.

3) Re: Guliani....Guliani is not a Jew. Guliani is a Roman Catholic. His media nickname? "America's Mayor". His nomination would set off a media frenzy second only to that of Rice. Talk about exploiting 9/11, they'll probably hold their convention in New York and it would be a coronation. Democrats wouldn't stand a chance.


Dismiss my fears if you will. I've been watching these bastards since 1972 and and I've learned to expect treachery. I fully believe Cheney never had any intention of finishing out the second term. He was merely holding the space until the next president could be installed.

[SupplyConcerns]

51. Female, black, and SO charismatic!!

C'mon, can you actually see Rice winning over voters? She's frigid and unlikable. Just because she's black, the 98% of blacks who disapprove of Bush wouldn't exactly fall in line... unless they really really like shoe shopping, too. Of course, all they'd need to do is get it within 10% so they could plausably steal it.

[Rowdyboy]

58. I remember the good old days when people said Bush was too stupid

to be elected. When the GOP attack machine goes into action, logic, reason and sanity go out the window. She'd mouth platitudes, go on Oprah, and draw maybe 40% of the black vote. The black Democratic vote would more than make up for the outright racist Republicans who wouldn't vote for her.

[Bjornsdotter]

28. Yep, that's how I see it

IF Cheney resigns it will be attributed to health issues, Rice will step up to VP and be in place for the 2008 nomination.

Cheers!

[senaca]

33. It would be an interesting move.

It brings back to mind the recent article where Condi said that she would not run for President. That was, also, a condition for Cheney when he became VP. A more interesting choice would be "the fixer" or James Baker III. He seems to always turn up when there is big trouble. If the indictments go deep. They will have to look outside those directly associated with the office, yet they will need someone totally loyal to carry on.

[Zynx]

56. Bush's approval rating would drop so much it wouldn't matter.

Seriously, the resignation of Cheney amid a scandal among other things would so badly hurt the administration that a new Veep would simply be tainted by the poor public opinion of the whole of the administration. In fact, the whole Republican Party may be unable to escape low approval ratings.

[Mojorabbit]

11. it really sucks

because in a normal world I would be tickled pink to have a woman as vp.

[helderheid]

31. I feel the same way. First black woman VP ... and it's the spawn of the

devil.

[marylanddem]

12. Anyone remember Spiro Agnew?

Nixon's V.P. Agnew was caught in some kind of bribery scandal & I believe resigned just before Watergate broke wide open. But in all the Watergate brouhaha Agnew kind of slipped under the radar screen as I recall. Anyway, I think it's very possible Cheney could resign if he's close to getting nailed.

[acmavm]

16. Not going to happen. Why does this kind of stuff get started? We look

sort of foolish. I mean, even if they caught him with the proverbial 'dead woman or live boy', he'd lie lie lie and say it was a vast left-wing conspiracy.

[writes2000]

30. It's foolish if we make it up or quote a questionable source but

when it's a legitimate source, there is nothing wrong with discussing it, imo. I agree that we shouldn't buy into the rumor but I don't want to censor ourselves so much that we can't discuss items from legit sources.

[dbeach]

17. resigning is just pol talk for indictment / impeachment

8/2/05 the fringie sites broke the bush/cheny indictment story to cheers and many jeersin blogland.NEVR making any MM outlets.

MY HOW TIMES DO CHANGE or is that the NYTimes??

the possibilities of bush demise and gone are building.

look for the MM to mostly continue the line that their boy/god/king of wars and tax cuts is clean,a victim,..Must remian in office due to ....

I don't think Mr. Fitzgerlad is gonna listen much to the talking heads of MM lala land

[blitzen]

21. Bring it on!!! Rice would be a very lame candidate, I think

She is awkward and hesitant in her attempts to obfuscate, and would not make a good stump speaker

[klook]

26. Correct, not to mention the effect on the Southern Strategy

I don't think too many Good Ole Boys would be fond of a black woman as VP.

[bunny planet]

42. Yeah and she's got that pesky 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack within the

US' PDB to answer for. Plus, isn't she part of the WHIG group that Fitz might just be indicting for conspiracy.

[merbex]

23. If HE resigns because of this there is NO WAY they could appoint

C Rice.

She was in WHIG, talked INCESSANTLY about MUSHROOM CLOUD

She is PART of conspiracy

But go ahead do it and then EXPOSE HER ROLE FURTHER

They are all COMPLICIT IN THIS

[Generator]

25. That's how I think too

But don't put anything past them ever.

[Imalittleteapot]

27. What did Bush know and when did he know it?

IMPEACH

[shraby]

29. What if Rice is indicted also????

[onenote]

49. for buying shoes?

[cascadiance]

60. She certainly has been on the "rumored" list earlier...

http://www.topviewnews.com/blog/2005/08/bushcheney-indicted-in-chicago-grand.html

[onenote]

64. that's not a rumor , it bs from an unreliable source

totally unreliable report from an unreliable source. Has Condi been called to testify before the GJ?

onenote

[cascadiance]

66. Unreliable source or not, it seems to be coming true now...

Condi certainly was knee deep in a lot of the "lies" about what intelligence was passed on to Bush from Clinton's administration. Clarke has noted that. Boxer's questioned her credibility in her Sec. of State hearings too.

Whether or not that list is completely accurate or not, it does have a sense of believability to it, given the stronger rumors coming out now. I think the number at that time was about 22 as well!

[onenote]

68. what "lies" would be actionable

Fitzgerald was appointed Special Prosecutor to look into the Plame leak. He certainly can follow that trail to other crimes, including perjury. But lies about the intelligence being passed on to Bush from Clinton's administration would be actionable only if made under oath. Maybe she repeated lies about such matters in Congressional testimony or the 9/11 Commission, but I just have my doubts that Fitzgerald has wandered that far...if he had, I think we would've heard about a lot of additional GJ witnesses being called.

If Condi was called before the GJ and perjured herself, she'd be a target, but I still haven't been able to find out if she was a witness.

onenote

[cascadiance]

70. If I were the Rethugs, I'd want a *CLEAN* person as VP...

Even if Condi's not subject to being indicted from THIS investigation, if she's got dirty hands in other areas, I'd also be careful of that as well. This investigation will open up perhaps other investigations as more info comes out.

I would think that the last things Rethugs want is someone that could LATER be impeached after the Dems might take over congress in 2006, which very likely could give the Dems the White House if Pelosi takes over then. An untouchable VP would solidify someone that could take over as president and not have it fall down to the Speaker of the House in the chain of succession and keep them in power until at least 2008 elections.

[onenote]

71. i agree that condi will never be a cheney replacement

It'll be Daddy Bush. He's the only logical choice. He's no threat to any of the other potential 2008 candidates, his loyalty to chimpy won't be an issue, and the public probably could accept the idea that he's a qualified, experience caretaker for a couple of years (despite his age)

onenote

[Mich Otter]

32. The Republican leadership would likely push for John McCain...

to get him a head start on 2008. They have to try to get the stench of Bush's era out of the public nostrils.

[garybeck]

35. this is a last minute diversion tactic

"ok, we got rid of Cheney, so everything's fine now... be gone... look the other way..."

Bush is part of it. Rice is part of it. They all are and they know it. A Cheney resignation would not change anything.

[RobertSeattle]

38. Funny How Drudge is ignoring this...

If it were a (D) it would b...

[peacetalksforall]

40. Their approval rate is under 40 and the public doesn't even have all

the details we have - yet. Not even Rove can stuff the facts as we're slowly learning them back in his bag.

Rice is a woman whose lies have killed and maimed - thousands and thousands in a foreigh country and our own.

Not even Rove......can help her.

We must suffer her until ALL the facts are known. We know about her 9-11 lies, but too many normal citizens still believe in the Middle East-19 - a design for destruction concocted by our right wing, but there are two years for the truth to come out. And it will. She is a living lie and liar.

[pattim]

41. Not gonna happen.

Libby would take the fall.

[KharmaTrain]

44. Here's Where You Use A Filibuster...Turn 2006 Into A Real Referendum

If this rumor turns true, then mark down the date of my rumor....LOL.

If Crashcart were to resign, Rice's confirmation would have to be voted on by the Senate...and without a quorum or using that fillibuster card that's been held all this time, Democrats could really force this regime's hand at the ballot box next year.

The election could hinge on this entire regime as the vote could be localized as to how each Congress critter would vote in this matter and put them on record about every Fredo boooosh scandal.

But now is the DNC, Senate and House Democrats up for this kind of battle?

[DoYouEverWonder]

46. Rice will never be confirmed by Congress

If Cheney resigns, Bush can nominate someone but Congress has to approve of them.

We are going to have a change of government soon but it won't be Bush Cronies getting any of the top jobs any more. Their days are over.

[many a good man]

62. No confirmation needed for VP

At least as far as I'm aware of. Any con law experts out there who can verify???

[DoYouEverWonder]

63. That's how they did it when Agnew resigned

and again when Ford took over and selected Rockerfeller. Both had to be approved by Congress.

[izzybeans]

47. I find it interesting the near immediate distancing from Rice by the

repugs. It seems the party of inclusion is not as advertised. Hmmm...

[HR_Pufnstuf]

48. Sure.

Halliburton's already got the contracts. Time to go back to work.

[onenote]

50. daddy daddy daddy

No one is paying attention to me. I've said it before: if (and personally I don't think its gonna happen) Cheney resigns, his replacement will be Daddy -- George Herbert Walker Bush. He's not gonna be a candidate in 2008, so he doesn't divide the party. He's not a member of the current administration (at least not formally). The public likely would view him as having the requisite experience and qualifications to be pres in the event something happened to chimpy. He's the one. No doubt about it.

onenote

[Czolgosz]

52. If Harriet Miers has cracked the Reptilican base, appointing a pro-choice,

black woman vice president would get Bush* assassinated by those right-wingnuts.

Of course, Cheney wouldn't resign (unless it was to to boost the chances of the next neo-con for 2008, but then it would not be under any circumstance where it appeared that he was feeling pressure to resign), and -- if on the one in a thousand chance he did resign -- of course, they'd never appoint Rice.

But it's fun to watch 'em squirm.

[rucky]

55. I bet he can't wait to cash in those stock options! n/t

[CAcyclist]

65. He's old and has a bad ticker. Maybe he'll die. nt

[seabeyond]

69. black and female. black and female. repugs spent 5 years feeding

white repugs bigotry. black and female. they wont vote for her

[nvliberal]

72. I don't believe this crap.

The only way Cheney will leave is in a hearse.

The whole administration would have to resign; it's not just Cheney.

If Condi became VP, it wouldn't mean squat, for the PNAC crowd is still going to run the government.