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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:33 PM
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When is someone going to rat out the MSM?
:shrug:

Why not ask?
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:35 PM
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1. Explain what you mean, please. NT
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:40 PM
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3. I was reacting to the alledged WH mole.
Then I thought about Andrea Mitchell's new book and her denial that the media isn't doing their job. So I'm wondering when someone within the MSM is going to rat them out for incessantly lying to the public. :shrug:

My initial posts have a horrible habit of being vague don't they? :blush:
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:41 PM
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11. That's what I thought you meant.
But the problem is that there is no single MSM. It is just a term used for a collection of publications and media that are generally respected. It is important to remember that they are accountable to NO ONE except the shareholders of the stock, and their responsibility is TO MAKE A PROFIT.

So there is no real organization to be ratted out on, and no one to rat out to.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:37 PM
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2. I don't understand the question...
plenty of media figures have spoken out against the current state of the media -- Dan Rather comes to mind, also Walter Cronkite, to name two very mainstream figures. What are you looking for?
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:42 PM
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4. I want someone to tear their clothes off!
So the nation can see the lizardy skin underneath its facade of providing a public service.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:44 PM
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6. As a newspaper journalist with many friends in the industry...
I can swear none of us are reptilian... Can't speak for anyone I don't know, though, and that Hannity sure looks like he could be wearing a mask...
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:45 PM
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7. but you know what I'm trying to say...
right?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:51 PM
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9. Oh absolutely...
Every time Wolf Blitzer opens his mouth, he says something so shockingly obvious and dumb that one wonders how anyone stays informed.

If one assumes that folks like him are reporting everything they know, then every DUer is far more informed than CNN anchors. Of course, since that can't be the case, just through simple access (they have it, most of us don't), the only conclusion one can reach is this -- journalists AREN'T telling us everything they know. And any "journalist" who withholds important news and information from the people of this country is a sham and a fraud, not worthy of the title.

Anyone guilty of this -- and by the maxim I just cited, we can assume most of the media is -- should be tarred, feathered and kicked out of the profession.

It's enough to justify licensing journalists, the way they do lawyers and doctors. Of course, the cons to that proposition far outweigh the pros.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:43 PM
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5. F-ing A - - devilgrrl they are complicit in all this and they should fry
also.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:46 PM
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8. Maybe people will figure it out
especially with the Miller situation.
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:18 PM
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10. I think "somebody" tried...
...by allowing the pre photo op "rehearsal" between the Captains and Pentagon PR Pimp Allison Barber to go out over the air. Did "heads roll" over that? I still don't know.
I'd like a few more behind-the-curtains snafus like that. ;)
Allison is in charge of allowing other radio shows on AFR...they get Rush but she just turned Ed Schultz down, (a technicality she said...paperwork required)

At http://crooksandliars.com there are examples of some journalists trying to get at the truth...e.g. Press gaggles with McClellan, Cafferty, Olbermann, et al; the reheased photo op too.

Real journalists must be embarrassed by now to have no credibility whatsoever. (Their bosses are wingers, I know...their livelihood would be endangered, Catch-22.) I sure would be ashamed; I'd be looking for a way to redeem myself and break the next Watergate piece of the puzzle to bring the House of Bush down.

I look back fondly on the Watergate days and how it all came crashing down on them...at last.
The day Butterfield testified comes to mind. The dam burst.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/watergate/articles/071773-1.htm
The good old days. :)
http://www.c-span.org/executive/presidential/nixon.asp

We may see some accurate reporting tomorrow...Fitzgerald is supposed to "act". The whole country was glued to Watergate...but things have changed. Cable. Faux. No Fairness Doctrine...Communications Act 1996. Newt's Congress. The rules are more suited to silencing truth.

I've been hopeful since Katrina. Something's got to give and that horror opened some eyes. The information dam might just have broken along with the levees.


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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:02 PM
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12. Read "Into the Buzzsaw"
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