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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:26 AM
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Bill Gates dumps dollar for euro ... ?
The dollar’s downward trend has not been broken since I wrote a column about the subject in December. (link) In fact, the trend seems to be accelerating. Bill Gates openly stated yesterday he is pulling out of the dollar and is instead investing in euros. Microsoft’s co-founder has made many mistakes in the past (I write this on an Apple computer, so I may be biased), but this is a wise move, indeed. He’s probably not the last one to pull out of the U.S. currency.

Bill Gates, whose net worth of $46.6 billion makes him the world’s richest person, is betting against the U.S. dollar.

“I’m short the dollar,” Gates, chairman of Microsoft Corp., told Charlie Rose in an interview late yesterday at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “The ol’ dollar, it’s gonna go down.”

http://www.sebimeyer.com/?p=1229

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:27 AM
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1. I figure this trend will continue
I'm just waiting until China decides to call in the chips.....
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:34 AM
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7. Warren Buffett...
George Soros, and many other people a lot smarter than me are also betting against America. They have access to a lot more information than I, and thus know that we are all doomed.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:59 AM
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10. Buffet Barely Moved Anything
He moved under $400 million to Euros. Given that's only 1% of what he has, i don't think he's betting against. Just expanding his portfolio. That's what he does, and he's pretty darned good at it.
The Professor
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:28 AM
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2. Does this mean we'll invade Seattle, capture Gates...
and put him on trial? :evilgrin:
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:31 AM
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5. Where have I heard that before? n/t
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:30 AM
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3. The rats are abandoning the sinking ship.
Mission accomplished by the neo-cons. They are succeeding in turning the United States into Mexico.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:30 AM
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4. The Gates Story Is From January
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:18 PM
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13. It sure is, and the dollar has actually strengthened quite a bit since
then. If Gates went short on the dollar when $1.30 of it bought a Euro (roughly where it was when he made his remarks), he has lost some money now that it takes less than $1.20 to buy a Euro.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:31 AM
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6. Our death spiral
The world is fed up with us and our policies. Once China and Japan make the move, the Great Depression of the '30s will look like a walk in the park. Starving, homeless people will have no recourse but to begin a new revolution. Batten down the hatches, it's going to get pretty rough.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:55 AM
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8. I'm doing the same
I'm no Bill Gates, that's for sure. But in my own humble way I'm doing the same. For years I've stuck mostly to S&P 500 based mutual funds for my stock investments. Anticipating a continued downward trend of the US dollar, however, I have been moving away from dollar-based investments.

On 2/11/05 I invested equal amounts in an S&P 500 index fund, and in an international (non-US) stock mutual fund. To date I have made 1.22% on the S&P index fund and 6.81% on the international fund.

I will continue this migration away from US stocks, as my outlook for the US economy continues to be dismal. Regardless of who is in charge in the future, it would take a very long time to straighten out this mess that Dubya and his Republican majority have created.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:56 AM
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9. Here's how you can do it, too:
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 10:57 AM by rucky
www.paypal.com

you can keep an (interest-bearing) account in Euros and change back in a click... pounds and Yen, too, if you're feeling saucy.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:04 AM
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11. I'm brain dead on these things...
Can you explain how it works with paypal?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:32 AM
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12. ok, you sign up for an account
and transfer some money from your existing bank account to your Paypal money market account.

There it sits. They issue you a debit card & you earn competitive interest rates - just like a regular savings account. The difference is, under "account settings" you can assign which currency you want to hold your money in (they also give the exchange rates they're working off of). You can do a combination of diferent currencies when they ask you how much of your cash you want to convert.

Then, when you check your account, your balance displays - itemized by whatever currencies you're saving in. You're safe as long as your currency is strong against the dollar. When you need to liquidate, you can go back to the dollar at whatever the exchange rate may be at the time.

Did that make more sense?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:41 PM
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14. yes, very much so, thanks!
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