BeyondThePale
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:26 AM
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Question: Did Bush lie to federal prosecutors about... |
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his awareness that Rove was involved in the leak? Bush told prosecutors that Rove assured him he (Rove) was not involved. But, the NYDN story which said that Bush was aware and actually rebuked Rove regarding this.
So, did he lie to prosecutors and is this an impeachable offense--even if a blow job was not involved (that we know of!)?
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:28 AM
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1. We have the Clinton precident |
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Clinton was impeached not for oral sex but for lying to federal prosecutors. However, Clinton was under oath, and Shrub took care NOT to be under oath. So he can slip out of a charge, I think.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:34 AM
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11. obstruction is the charge for lying to investigators |
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Thu Oct-20-05 03:08 PM
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18. It was neither 'lying' nor 'perjury.' It was 'misleading' testimony ... |
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Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 03:08 PM by TahitiNut
... that was LITERALLY truthful. Clinton's impeachment had absolutely NOTHING to do with 'high crimes and misdemeanors' and EVERYTHING to do with corrupt politics.
FWIW, the five year suspension of his license to practice law has expired.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:28 AM
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2. The weasel didn't testify under oath...he was interviewed |
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So while he is a bald faced liar....there is no blue dress down this tunnel
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OmmmSweetOmmm
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:29 AM
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4. Lying to the Feds is an imprisonable offense. Martha Stewart ring a bell? |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:31 AM
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6. and he never will agree to testify. |
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The creep really believe the presidencey places him above the law. And syncophant assholes like Gonzales, Yoo and Miers have fed him legaleze to help him think that way.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:33 AM
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Fitz has a witness (or more) who claim Bush knew? Even if Bush wasn't under oath and lied, can't he be held accountable in some way?
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:33 AM
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9. Explains both Bushs and Cheneys refusal of taking an oath. |
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They both planned, with fore thought, to lie. PLANNED to lie to investigators. And then they did so.
May not be perjury under oath, but still morally indefensible.
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Thu Oct-20-05 03:01 PM
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17. It's the same with all the 9/11 hearings |
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:eyes: It just goes to show that they have something to hide.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:28 AM
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He didn't do it under oath. So while he is a liar, he didn't perjure himself. He's pretty good most of the time at covering his ass.
Sneaky bastard.
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Thu Oct-20-05 02:54 PM
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:30 AM
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5. I think lying to Federal Agents is call obstruction. |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:32 AM
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7. Even when not under oath, right? |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:35 AM
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:34 AM
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10. Not Perjury (wasn't sworn) but could be a False Statement offense |
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Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 10:36 AM by leveymg
Let's see, the potential penalty for making a false statement to a federal officer (obstruction of justice):
The U.S. Code, Title 18 §1001, provides that knowingly falsifying or concealing a material fact is a felony that may result in fines of up to $10,000 or 5 years in prison, or both.
Yep, that could be a High Crime - not a misdemeanor.
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BeyondThePale
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:35 AM
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13. the country has been in prison for the last five years, |
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so five years in prison for * sounds just about right!
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:43 AM
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14. That's just for one count of obstruction. |
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Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 10:44 AM by leveymg
How about the 3,000 counts of negligent homicide they have coming for 9/11?
The 1970 counts for the illegal war in Iraq?
The X-thousand counts for the victims in New Orleans?
No, five years isn't enough for all they've done to us. What do you think this is, Sweden or something? What are we, soft on crime?;)
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BeyondThePale
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:57 AM
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15. Every journey begins with... |
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one indictment and conviction!
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Thu Oct-20-05 03:11 PM
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but it is definitely obstruction of justice. A criminal offense.
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