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Thu Oct-20-05 10:27 AM
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Chris Matthews advertising tonite's show as "Now that CIA leak story OVER" |
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"Over"? Does he know something that we do not? It was strange the way it was advertised? Matt Cooper will be on to discuss how much higher this goes, the Hardball ad says. Has Chris heard something?
Also, I noticed another link about the media connections to the lies leading up to and during the war. Wasn't Matthews more or less against this war from the beginning?? Although with his ambiguity, one could never know.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:29 AM
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is that Chris gets his talking points directly from the WH and the "spin" they're putting on it is that "it's over!".
Either that or he's inept in doing "promos"...which is possible.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:33 AM
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4. Maybe it's because of what's developing on Rawstory |
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Looks like Mioers gave false information to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:49 AM
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21. Next, tweety will be sayin' .. |
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"It's background noise", doncha know.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:30 AM
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2. Where did you see this? |
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Are they running this on MSRNC?
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:36 AM
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6. I've seen the promo 3 times this morning on MSNBC.....n/t |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:37 AM
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7. Saying that the story is "over"? |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:40 AM
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9. Yep. I don't believe it, but that sure is what the promo is saying.n/t |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:40 AM
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10. Maybe something is going down today??? |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:41 AM
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11. Could be that Fitzgerald will announce no indictments? |
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It would be terrible.
I wouldn't be surprised if Tweety got some bullshit line from someboyd in the White House, though.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:42 AM
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That just can't be. I swear to God I will jump from a building. |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:47 AM
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19. Did he say the leak story was over? Or that the investigation of the |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:49 AM
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22. I asked the same important question downthread -- |
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could it be he means the GJ has finished its job, testimony is over.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:53 AM
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26. It sounded as if the story was over, and they were moving on to something |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:54 AM
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29. Aaahhhhh. So maybe, they have their answers for the leak part, |
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and are now moving towards AIPAC and Franklin?
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:33 AM
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3. There's wishful thinking if ever I saw it. |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:35 AM
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5. That's a strange thing for him to say considering that yesterday he |
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was on playing up how serious this story is.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:40 AM
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8. How does he manage to say it is over, while having guests talking about |
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how high it goes? Seems to me it can't go higher if it's over? Or does the mean there might be a positive announcement later today and everyone is going to be talking about it on their shows tonight?
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:15 AM
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38. Yes, it is very ambiguous... |
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But the word "OVER" had to catch your ear...
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:42 AM
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:42 AM
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13. He's salivating lately |
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I keep damning myself to Hell every time I tune in and swear I'll never do it again only to repeat the behavior. :banghead:
Occasionally, lucidity shows on his expression with the realization he willingly swallowed the WH spin hook, line, sinker and pole.
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:52 AM
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Yes, he has been salivating; especially when he mentions Libby's "Aspens are turning," letter to Miller.
Perhaps he's means 'it's all over but the shouting.'
Peace
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:43 AM
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14. Could he mean testimony is OVER and GJ has done its job? |
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Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 10:44 AM by DeepModem Mom
It's over except the waiting?
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:43 AM
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15. How Can It Go Higher, If It's Over |
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Perhaps you're overreading. Maybe all that's meant is that the investigation part is over. Otherwise, Cooper would be on to talk about nothing, not about how much higher it goes.
No? The Professor
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:50 AM
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24. it's something stupid and incompetent -- like them assuming on |
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Tuesday the story would break on Wednesday, one way or the other, and they rushed the promo just in case. Nothing about that on their web site. I would not panic quite yet -- even though we are very skillful -- and understandably so -- at that :)
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:54 AM
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Channeling Alfred E Neumann. I guess my point was that we may be reading too much into that one sentence, because if it was over, there would be no reason to have Matt Cooper on. So, clearly they don't think it's over. The Professor
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:01 AM
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34. I am with you, Professor :) |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:46 AM
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16. Yes, completely over! |
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1) Bush was pretty miffed with Karl, but he understands that Turdy was just tryin' ta help.
2) Bush assures us that the investigation is "just background noise."
3) Tweety says so.
Thing is, why would they even think this would work? Have they cut a deal with Fitz? Made him an offer he can't refuse? Gonna fire him?
I wish the guy would pull the trigger already.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:46 AM
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17. Matthews wasn't against the Iraq invasion. |
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Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 10:47 AM by Marr
All his coverage was giving neocons time to make their arguments without rebuttals of any sort. He promoted the WMD bullshit, he went on about drones and the 50 foot Hussein, etc., etc.- the whole nine yards.
The jackass has been repeating that "against it from the beginning" bullshit since it became safe to do so. Since opposition became the popular stance, that is. Matthews is a little twerp.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:47 AM
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18. Did Matthews testify? |
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Karl Rove called him and told him Wilson's wife was 'fair game'.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:48 AM
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20. Has anyone ever figured out tweety? |
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From what I've read about him..he licks his fat finger and puts it up to the wind or somewhere.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:50 AM
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23. Matthews on Wed - "There's something big coming in this city" |
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5445086Somebody has clued him into something -- he was about to burst yesterday. Maybe he thinks/knows the story will move to a new level today
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:53 AM
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27. there may have been target letters received yesterday, and he was told |
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:00 AM
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33. Raw Story probably got similar info -- since they posted |
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yesterday that something on the leak will be revealed late today. But they seem to have pulled the tantalizer today.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:51 AM
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25. HARDBALL MAIN PAGE:New reports suggest CIA leak probe will end in criminal |
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:54 AM
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30. Ahhh, so he's implying that the investigation is over |
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and all that's left are the indictments.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:59 AM
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Heard eight are prepared, ten more possible.
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:45 AM
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42. Nothing left to do but the crying. |
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For someone, anyway. Hopefully, not us.
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Thu Oct-20-05 10:54 AM
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31. thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!! |
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Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 10:56 AM by Bumblebee
Update: overreacted -- it's sort of an oldish story :)
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:06 AM
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36. I feel your pain. /nt |
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:05 AM
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I told myself I wasn't going to let myself get jerked around by this story... I was doin' pretty good too, but the last couple days've been killin' me.
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:10 AM
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:18 AM
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I've been glued to the T.V set so I could write down exactly what the promo said. I was really beginning to worry that it was really over.- Thank you for saving me time, hassle, and what little patience I have left!! Looks like the leak story is indeed over, now it's time for the indictment stories!!!!
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:31 AM
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40. Pat Buchanan: my guess is that there are multiple indictments coming |
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for lying to investigators, perjury, obstruction of justice, and disclosure of national security secrets for political purposes. And maybe conspiracy. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9601200/#051019aHe just posted it -- so MSNBC apparently forgot to inform him it's "over" :)
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Thu Oct-20-05 12:24 PM
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48. More interesting Buchanan snips: |
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<snip>
My own sense, from hearing and reading about Fitzgerald is that he may be going after much larger game, that he may have what Bob Bennett calls a "big case," that he may be going after the White House and WHIG for fabricating the case for war, that he is roaming afield, looking into who forged the Niger documents and passed them on to U.S. intelligence and whether the case for war was shot through with deceit and lies. (But if lying us into war is a crime, we would have to have a second look at that FDR memorial on the trail to Haynes Point.)
An interesting question is whether Fitzgerald is now working with McNulty, who got Larry Franklin to plead and is now going after AIPAC and the Israelis and has the fruits of five years of FBI investigations going back into the 1990s. Are the two Irish prosecutors collaborating?
<snip>
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:42 AM
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41. Tweety last night: there will be indictments, said bravely |
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to blond *bouffant hair styled repug hack- who in the past had been loud, aggressive and sarcastically interrupted every liberal who faced him and tweety loved it.
Now, the pink, chubby, repug hamster is more docile and tweety boldly told him his little tweety analysis: there will be indictments! Wow. Brave little canary...
* what's up with the 70's style, retro, blow dryed, helmet style repug hair cut- parted on the left, combed over to the right, they look like Ken dolls from the 70's.
The women all have big Kay Bailey Hutchison hair.
Yo can spot a repug by the amount of hair styling product they use..I always say. Their hair reveals much..they live in the pre-Raygun, beach blanket bingo days, of the early 70's.
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:50 AM
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the sleaze level of DeLay...just look at teh amount of motor oil HE uses!!!!
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Thu Oct-20-05 11:59 AM
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45. True, the more hair pomade the sleazier |
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they are.
Look at Dr. Faust, and Grining Newt-rich.
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Thu Oct-20-05 12:00 PM
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46. Matthews always does a turnaround following big build-ups. |
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But I've been hearing this same "Nothing there" comment from various RWs. Can't understand why.
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Thu Oct-20-05 12:15 PM
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47. anyone here trust tweety to give them a weather report without spin? |
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Promos are to get people interested in watching the show to see what's on. Apparently Tweety's promos work.
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